RE: AMG Goes Electric With Mercedes SLS

RE: AMG Goes Electric With Mercedes SLS

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annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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just me said:
zektor said:
FatMikel said:
derek29 said:
this is a car produced by AMG to say that they are "eco" aswell. alomst every big time car manufactur makes a electric car that is said to be "eco". it "eco" because it runs on electricity? how is 99.9% of our electricity produced? by burning fossul fuels, which is a bad thing. this is a car froma a company that is trying to say theyre "eco" aswell.
Actually we currently only produce about 72% from fossil fuels. Same in most other developed countries or less.
I've said it before, and I will say it again. Battery powered electric cars are dead technology.

The technology is with us TODAY to allow you to drive your hulking great V8 on nothing but WATER.
Yes, but it's not cost effective to produce.
Or energy efficient it takes 35x more energy to make hydrogen than you get out.

Where does that energy come from?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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thats why ALL power stations need to be replaced with nuclear until we get cold fusion sorted out!

annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
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SystemParanoia said:
thats why ALL power stations need to be replaced with nuclear until we get cold fusion sorted out!
Cold fusion is a fallacy, hot fusion on the other hand may be possible, but the tokamak that they have in surrey and its replacement ITER in southern france just suck more and more money.

There are many other possibilities.

abu-bakr

110 posts

192 months

Thursday 23rd July 2009
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annodomini2 said:
just me said:
zektor said:
FatMikel said:
derek29 said:
this is a car produced by AMG to say that they are "eco" aswell. alomst every big time car manufactur makes a electric car that is said to be "eco". it "eco" because it runs on electricity? how is 99.9% of our electricity produced? by burning fossul fuels, which is a bad thing. this is a car froma a company that is trying to say theyre "eco" aswell.
Actually we currently only produce about 72% from fossil fuels. Same in most other developed countries or less.
I've said it before, and I will say it again. Battery powered electric cars are dead technology.

The technology is with us TODAY to allow you to drive your hulking great V8 on nothing but WATER.
Yes, but it's not cost effective to produce.
Or energy efficient it takes 35x more energy to make hydrogen than you get out.

Where does that energy come from?
He's not talking about pumped hydrogen. He's talking about the water fuel cell which is very interesting but needs to be miniaturized somehow and made cheaper.

annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Thursday 23rd July 2009
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abu-bakr said:
annodomini2 said:
just me said:
zektor said:
FatMikel said:
derek29 said:
this is a car produced by AMG to say that they are "eco" aswell. alomst every big time car manufactur makes a electric car that is said to be "eco". it "eco" because it runs on electricity? how is 99.9% of our electricity produced? by burning fossul fuels, which is a bad thing. this is a car froma a company that is trying to say theyre "eco" aswell.
Actually we currently only produce about 72% from fossil fuels. Same in most other developed countries or less.
I've said it before, and I will say it again. Battery powered electric cars are dead technology.

The technology is with us TODAY to allow you to drive your hulking great V8 on nothing but WATER.
Yes, but it's not cost effective to produce.
Or energy efficient it takes 35x more energy to make hydrogen than you get out.

Where does that energy come from?
He's not talking about pumped hydrogen. He's talking about the water fuel cell which is very interesting but needs to be miniaturized somehow and made cheaper.
Ah brown gas.

It appears to be perpetual motion rubbish, but there are reports that something is different about the electrolysis, i.e. it shouldn't work at all, even though from certain perspectives it does.

The Wookie

13,964 posts

229 months

Thursday 23rd July 2009
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What reports? Whatever happens with the electrolysis, you never get back more than what you put in, as per the laws of thermodynamics.

annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Friday 24th July 2009
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The Wookie said:
What reports? Whatever happens with the electrolysis, you never get back more than what you put in, as per the laws of thermodynamics.
Something about electrolysis with pure distilled water, which shouldn't work by all logic.