RE: SOTW: Audi 200 Turbo
Discussion
BlueSei said:
With the exception of the Alfa last week, almost of all the sheds seem to be boring German barges, apart from that 325i Estate
There are rather alot I suppose, but these old German barges tend to wear the years rather well, tend to have large-ish engines and due to said quality tend to last long enough to end up at shed money eventually - so they do make great shed buys and SOTW fodder!Not that a slight bias at PH Towers is totally out of the question...
Garlick said:
BlueSei said:
With the exception of the Alfa last week, almost of all the sheds seem to be boring German barges, apart from that 325i Estate
Boring is in the eye of the beholder though, we love a bit of German 
Another good, different, SOTW!
It turns out to be a good car, then it's a pretty rare machine for the money.
I had a H reg 100 bought for £2395 in about 95, was less than six years old, 98k, was the nicest car I had had by then, it was only the 2.0 model but it had all the electrics and aircon, lovely interior, the dash doesnt look a million miles from current Audis in style, certainly nicer than the earlier ones.
I ran it for four years, still the longest I have kept any car, I was only in my early twenties and I got stick for it beign an old man car and dead slow, but guess what, it wasnt, it went really rather well, not far off an 8 valve Golf GTI (had one as well), the cat was knackered so I remeoved it and as it was a H reg replaced it with a straight pipe, which made it much quicker(no cat versus none)and gave it a real Quattro warble, they were quite light and very aerodynamic, you could have a "Turbo" boost, by switching the air con off, it made a hell of a difference, turn it on the revs dipped, the lights dimmed breifly.
I decided to swap it for a 200 but I went to look at it and it was a bin that reeked of fags inside and burning oil outside, plus it was an auto, drove it and it didnt feel much quicker than my 2.0 manual, suspect it was poorly !
These dont rust, mine got scratched on the bonnet, left it, didnt change ever, normal now but amazing after Capri's, Manta's and Golfs which all rusted for fun
I always remember the 200 Rally cars, seeing one spin, driver put it in first and span all four wheels, again, standard now but seeing it extracate itself from the scenery all four wheels going was quite somethign for us used to MK2 Escorts.
Would make an epic sleeper that, is it the 4wd one, didnt notice, a fettled engine say 300 bhp (very do-able), quite light, overhaul the underneathy bits.
I did once try to go back after I sold mine, for the later P reg A6, utter minter in Black, an avant 2.6 auto, drove it and it felt wheezy, slow and vry old mannish, dotn think it was my perception, just that however nice, an asthmatic old six and boring auto couldnt hold a candle to the lovely 5 cylinder warble from my old one, amongst some of my favourite engines, I love fives, have had a Volvo T5, Fiat Coupe and the Audi, there shoudl be more 5 cylinder engines.
I ran it for four years, still the longest I have kept any car, I was only in my early twenties and I got stick for it beign an old man car and dead slow, but guess what, it wasnt, it went really rather well, not far off an 8 valve Golf GTI (had one as well), the cat was knackered so I remeoved it and as it was a H reg replaced it with a straight pipe, which made it much quicker(no cat versus none)and gave it a real Quattro warble, they were quite light and very aerodynamic, you could have a "Turbo" boost, by switching the air con off, it made a hell of a difference, turn it on the revs dipped, the lights dimmed breifly.
I decided to swap it for a 200 but I went to look at it and it was a bin that reeked of fags inside and burning oil outside, plus it was an auto, drove it and it didnt feel much quicker than my 2.0 manual, suspect it was poorly !
These dont rust, mine got scratched on the bonnet, left it, didnt change ever, normal now but amazing after Capri's, Manta's and Golfs which all rusted for fun
I always remember the 200 Rally cars, seeing one spin, driver put it in first and span all four wheels, again, standard now but seeing it extracate itself from the scenery all four wheels going was quite somethign for us used to MK2 Escorts.
Would make an epic sleeper that, is it the 4wd one, didnt notice, a fettled engine say 300 bhp (very do-able), quite light, overhaul the underneathy bits.
I did once try to go back after I sold mine, for the later P reg A6, utter minter in Black, an avant 2.6 auto, drove it and it felt wheezy, slow and vry old mannish, dotn think it was my perception, just that however nice, an asthmatic old six and boring auto couldnt hold a candle to the lovely 5 cylinder warble from my old one, amongst some of my favourite engines, I love fives, have had a Volvo T5, Fiat Coupe and the Audi, there shoudl be more 5 cylinder engines.
I`m sorry but a braver man than me would have to take this one on. I`ve thoroughly learnt my lesson with older tubocharged cars (Renault 21 Turbo). A new turbo on one of these Audis is going to be serious expense as it`s a KKK unit not a Garret. Would never buy a second hand turbo charged car with anything over 60,000 on the clock. Would make a good project/donor car tho at about £300.
jontysafe said:
I`m sorry but a braver man than me would have to take this one on. I`ve thoroughly learnt my lesson with older tubocharged cars (Renault 21 Turbo). A new turbo on one of these Audis is going to be serious expense as it`s a KKK unit not a Garret. Would never buy a second hand turbo charged car with anything over 60,000 on the clock. Would make a good project/donor car tho at about £300.
Yeah, I see your point, but Renault versus and Audi, both capable of wallet meltdown but one a given, the other a possiblity.You can check turbos's over, I walked away due to the smell of burning 20/50's round the one I looked at, just leave it idling for 20 mins, then rev it, if it emits a Ultravox videos worth of smoke, its fooked. Boot it with someone behind, see what kidn of smoke is emitted, take the oil filler off, if its chuffing loads of oil mist, rings knackered, though at £500 its not the end of the world if it runs for a while then implodes.
Two things:
These old barges last forever, as said before they dont rust, the biggest killer of an old motor, and dont think i've heard of a turbo being replaced on one of these.
the other side of the coin is that my uncle is a farmer and the last thing he will do is spend money on his 90 Quattro, if it gets noisey he just turns the radio up.
so if it doesnt blow smoke and the radio isnt turned up to 11 then it should be worth a punt.
These old barges last forever, as said before they dont rust, the biggest killer of an old motor, and dont think i've heard of a turbo being replaced on one of these.
the other side of the coin is that my uncle is a farmer and the last thing he will do is spend money on his 90 Quattro, if it gets noisey he just turns the radio up.
so if it doesnt blow smoke and the radio isnt turned up to 11 then it should be worth a punt.
Lefty Guns said:
Istoo will buy it...
I think he needs to get his 80 on the road first. Last I heard he was still faffing around with it.Edited by Lefty Guns on Friday 21st August 11:42
A pal of mine had a manual quattro version in that nice metallic bronze colour. It was a great barge to hoon around in.
jontysafe said:
I`m sorry but a braver man than me would have to take this one on. I`ve thoroughly learnt my lesson with older tubocharged cars (Renault 21 Turbo). A new turbo on one of these Audis is going to be serious expense as it`s a KKK unit not a Garret. Would never buy a second hand turbo charged car with anything over 60,000 on the clock. Would make a good project/donor car tho at about £300.
Yeah, I see your point, but Renault versus and Audi, both capable of wallet meltdown but one a given, the other a possiblity.You can check turbos's over, I walked away due to the smell of burning 20/50's round the one I looked at, just leave it idling for 20 mins, then rev it, if it emits a Ultravox videos worth of smoke, its fooked. Boot it with someone behind, see what kidn of smoke is emitted, take the oil filler off, if its chuffing loads of oil mist, rings knackered, though at £500 its not the end of the world if it runs for a while then implodes.
Good shed lads, but have to agree with a few on here. All the sheds of late seem to be a bit safe, motorway milers bought as a solid barge (with the exception of the Alfa's!! 
)
I want to see a car that makes me want to grab the 1 grand limit credit card and run to easyjet.com. Unlike others, I dont care if its a repeat, or stupidly inefficient and a hugh money pit, but stop treating it as an episode of AutoTrader (dodgy Discovery show, not that 'other' website ofcourse
)Its supposed to be exciting and daring, not safe and practical.
Its a good segment, and probably quite sad that I look forward to it on a friday
but give me something I can daydream about over the weekend 
other than a german barge with family credentials.
maybe keep that for the 'Daz Practical Family un Shedzer' segment.
Just my 10cents . . .
) I want to see a car that makes me want to grab the 1 grand limit credit card and run to easyjet.com. Unlike others, I dont care if its a repeat, or stupidly inefficient and a hugh money pit, but stop treating it as an episode of AutoTrader (dodgy Discovery show, not that 'other' website ofcourse
)Its supposed to be exciting and daring, not safe and practical.Its a good segment, and probably quite sad that I look forward to it on a friday
but give me something I can daydream about over the weekend other than a german barge with family credentials. maybe keep that for the 'Daz Practical Family un Shedzer' segment.
Just my 10cents . . .
topless said:
Looks great but, as you say, I'd tread carefully. If there's any one who knows when to get rid of some machinery just before an expensive bill is about to appear it's a farmer. I'd ask to have a chat with the guy who did the work and ask him what he's done (or not).
+1 and check for famous ticking noise of cracked exhaust manifold - new one same price as this car...pSyCoSiS said:
Garlick said:
BlueSei said:
With the exception of the Alfa last week, almost of all the sheds seem to be boring German barges, apart from that 325i Estate
Boring is in the eye of the beholder though, we love a bit of German Another good, different, SOTW!
It turns out to be a good car, then it's a pretty rare machine for the money.
Pablo16v said:
Lefty Guns said:
Istoo will buy it...
I think he needs to get his 80 on the road first. Last I heard he was still faffing around with it.Edited by Lefty Guns on Friday 21st August 11:42
A pal of mine had a manual quattro version in that nice metallic bronze colour. It was a great barge to hoon around in.
These cars represent what Audi used to be about, kind of a german Volvo with a bit more cachet and style, they were sensible, robust, stylish in a subtle way, reasonably quick, innovative and innofensive, they were driven by middle class types who couldnt quite accept Volvo or Saab ownership, never mind BMW's developing Yuppie image.
Contrast with some of the shouty ignorant cocks ((c) J clarkson 2007) that they seem to attract these days, all S lined up with 19 inch alloys and LED running lights, massive TAG watch glinting sat in the outside lane of the motorway on the way to the sales meeting with all 140 diesely bhp being unleashed, grimacing as their spine is pummeled by their suspensionless vehicle, angrily flashing the now humbled BMW drivers out of the way, trying to remember which shade of silver their car is out of the 236 different words Audi have for Silver (like eskimo's and snow), sat in the glow of the sat nav screen which is the only light source in the unremittingly dark place they call an interior, in physics there is the Black Hole as a concept, and Audi Interior these days is the slightly up market "Black Leather Hole", all light is devoured. they dream at night of rash overtakes, bad parking, tailgating and opportunities they can use to bore any dinner party guest s
tless about fuel economy.
Contrast with some of the shouty ignorant cocks ((c) J clarkson 2007) that they seem to attract these days, all S lined up with 19 inch alloys and LED running lights, massive TAG watch glinting sat in the outside lane of the motorway on the way to the sales meeting with all 140 diesely bhp being unleashed, grimacing as their spine is pummeled by their suspensionless vehicle, angrily flashing the now humbled BMW drivers out of the way, trying to remember which shade of silver their car is out of the 236 different words Audi have for Silver (like eskimo's and snow), sat in the glow of the sat nav screen which is the only light source in the unremittingly dark place they call an interior, in physics there is the Black Hole as a concept, and Audi Interior these days is the slightly up market "Black Leather Hole", all light is devoured. they dream at night of rash overtakes, bad parking, tailgating and opportunities they can use to bore any dinner party guest s
tless about fuel economy.EEEEEEk J4CKO, I drive an Audi A4 2.0Tdi SE 140, i could be your worst dinner party guest! Rest assured though, it`s the only car i haven`t bought myself as it came with the job, although i own it now....... I feel i must stand up for the interior though, yes it`s black but it looks much better once it`s festooned with Burger King wrappers, CDs, drinks bottles and crisp packets. Could even be French! And I do get 53mpg you know, pass the Blue Nun will you?
Pablo16v said:
Lefty Guns said:
Istoo will buy it...
I think he needs to get his 80 on the road first. Last I heard he was still faffing around with it.Edited by Lefty Guns on Friday 21st August 11:42
A pal of mine had a manual quattro version in that nice metallic bronze colour. It was a great barge to hoon around in.
It is on the road and its a 90 not an 80, and happily faffing forever more
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