RE: McLaren MP4-12C Set For Take-Off

[j123]

kbee540 said:

Oh look, it's a Lotus. Or a Noble. Saleen? Farbio? (god what a stupid name - like some holiday destination waiter trying to fiddle your sister).

Guess it's only fair to wait until it's unveiled fully, but if the renderings are close to accurate it's booooring. Generic mid-engine supercar shape that every 13-yr old spotty kid would draw.

Horses for courses I suppose, but hard pressed to see why anyone would choose one over a 458; even if there's a 1/10th of a second advantage here and there or a pointless fast ring time. Still, guess it makes that fugly Noble seem even more ridiculously pricey.

Correct! As you say "booooring" as metal rusting.

[hurstg01]

Any real pics yet?

[MartinD]

hurstg01 said:

Any real pics yet?

Yes, its on the front cover of Top Gear magazine & 11 pages inside

[MartinD]

bobthemonkey said:

Airbag said:

I thought it was going to be a NA 5.5 based on the old Merc block reworked by Cosworth/Mahle for circa 600BHP.

That's what I'd been hearing as well.

Noting to do with Cosworth/Mahle

[Rich_W]

Fittster said:

Rich_W said:

. No one has ever tried to beat the 911

You not seen the 911 v GT-R threads?

Probably the closest car. Cheapish weildy sit upright

Any of the R8, Masersatis etc as said before, miss the things the 911 does so well by trying to be F430/Gallrdo competitors

[Rich_W]

Just to add. http://www.mclarenautomotive.com/

says "45 Years in the making" convieniently forgetting their 2 previous cars!!!

[Joe911]

Rich_W said:

Just to add. http://www.mclarenautomotive.com/

says "45 Years in the making" convieniently forgetting their 2 previous cars!!!

I signed up to their email invitation and got a failed mail message returned caused by their email server being broken! Let's hope the car is more successful

[boxerTen]

kbee540 said:

Oh look, it's a Lotus. Or a Noble. Saleen? Farbio? (god what a stupid name - like some holiday destination waiter trying to fiddle your sister).

Guess it's only fair to wait until it's unveiled fully, but if the renderings are close to accurate it's booooring. Generic mid-engine supercar shape that every 13-yr old spotty kid would draw.

Horses for courses I suppose, but hard pressed to see why anyone would choose one over a 458; even if there's a 1/10th of a second advantage here and there or a pointless fast ring time. Still, guess it makes that fugly Noble seem even more ridiculously pricey.

Some judge cars on their performance and engineering, others judge cars just on their looks. If there were more people in the former category, and less in the latter, then perhaps the vast range of overweight luxury tourers masquerading as sports cars might be rebalanced a little towards the genuine driver.

[Joe911]

Rich_W said:

Fittster said:

Rich_W said:

. No one has ever tried to beat the 911

You not seen the 911 v GT-R threads?

Probably the closest car. Cheapish weildy sit upright

Any of the R8, Masersatis etc as said before, miss the things the 911 does so well by trying to be F430/Gallrdo competitors

Though it also depends which 911 you are comparing with. Most folks seem to focus on the Turbo - as it has the big power numbers - but many folks (like me) are completely uninterested in that and are interested in the GT3 "segment".
There are a bunch of competitors that seem to pitch themselves against the Turbo (GT-R most notably) - and fewer to the GT3. Also, there's loads of talk about the GT-R "beating" the Turbo on performance (and I guess it does) - but less talk of which is the more satisfying or challenging drive - and in fact I think that is a more subjective, but more important element.

[Airbag]

MartinD said:

bobthemonkey said:

Airbag said:

I thought it was going to be a NA 5.5 based on the old Merc block reworked by Cosworth/Mahle for circa 600BHP.

That's what I'd been hearing as well.

Noting to do with Cosworth/Mahle

[pits]

AUDIHenry said:

Terrible time to launch a car, though.

Reminds me of the fate that met the Cizeta-Moroder.

Although it looked like a Diablo rip off, this car was much cooler than the Diablo as it not only had pop up headlights, but a second set of pop up headlights, and we here at PH know this to be the ultimate feature of a car

[johnnyv6]

just a thought but wonders has big Ron pulled another fast one smoke screen wise while they get everyone prattling on speculating about a car supposedly v8 powered the name is really correct and lo and behold DOES have a sweet 12 in it... and Ron gets the last laugh ??? .......i'll just get me coat

[Vixpy1]

Airbag said:

MartinD said:

bobthemonkey said:

Airbag said:

I thought it was going to be a NA 5.5 based on the old Merc block reworked by Cosworth/Mahle for circa 600BHP.

That's what I'd been hearing as well.

Noting to do with Cosworth/Mahle

Out of all the people on this thread, One of the above i would trust more than others

The bugger is that in the past year or so, and out of the 100's of times the prototypes have driven past my unit did they once stop and ask for a power run, did they fk

[Johnny]

From the BBC...

[Johnny]

Some more...

[zippyneil]

all you need is here...

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/F...

extra pictures here.
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/241471/new_mclar...

[AUDIHenry]

It's time to come to the realization that Gordon Murray's peak was the McLaren F1.

This car looks almost exactly the same, generally speaking. What a letdown.

Edited by AUDIHenry on Wednesday 9th September 01:15

[Airbag]

Vixpy1 said:

Airbag said:

MartinD said:

bobthemonkey said:

Airbag said:

I thought it was going to be a NA 5.5 based on the old Merc block reworked by Cosworth/Mahle for circa 600BHP.

That's what I'd been hearing as well.

Noting to do with Cosworth/Mahle

Out of all the people on this thread, One of the above i would trust more than others

The bugger is that in the past year or so, and out of the 100's of times the prototypes have driven past my unit did they once stop and ask for a power run, did they fk

I'm guessing it isn't me.

[Dr JonboyG]

bertie said:

LoftyD said:

Top Gear magazine has gone on the shelves with all the details....a day ahead of the lifting of the press embargo/official release it seems!

3.8litre twin turbo V8
600bhp
443 lbft
<1400kg
7 speed dual clutch
Doors like the F1

Edited by LoftyD on Tuesday 8th September 14:58

Again, wrong!

I think someone is owed an apology...

[DuncanM]

bertie said:

Menguin said:

bertie said:

LoftyD said:

Top Gear magazine has gone on the shelves with all the details....a day ahead of the lifting of the press embargo/official release it seems!

3.8litre twin turbo V8
600bhp
443 lbft
<1400kg
7 speed dual clutch
Doors like the F1

Edited by LoftyD on Tuesday 8th September 14:58

Again, wrong!

Sounds nice though! If it is wrong, what is right?

I can't say, but it's announced soon anyway.

I don't get it, all the Mags are releasing these stats now?

Could it be possible that you are wrong? Are you thinking of on eof the other future models?