RE: Skoda Octavia vRS: The Antidote To The MPV

[sandys]

Its not even your own kids half the time, if your kids are liked and have friends then often you'll find yourself playing taxi, it does unfortunately mean you can't use the excuse 'Sorry son there's not enough space in the car' when you think some of there friends are annoying little tts

[daolski]

Mr Whippy said:

Nice, but a bit dull and the looks are going a bit off with this one.

I'd prefer an old school Audi RS4 or Volvo T5R to be honest with you, if I wanted a fast estate and were 'into' cars that is.

Dave

Exactly - I had a 2006 VRS combi - which was rubbish - noisy seats f-ing uncomfortable, crappy stereo and had a suspension rattle that no dealer could sort. I was most unhappy - plus it was the unluckiest car in the world - I counted 18 minor scrapes and dings in 18 months of ownership.

Got rid an replaced with a B5 RS4 - now I am happy

[Mr Whippy]

liner33 said:

Yeah but you always keep saying how fantastic your Pug is Dave , petrol vs diesel whatever the thread you always come back to it every car "seems to leave you cold"

Well it was.

What makes me think my feeling are right is that counter to what you say, it's not every car that leaves me cold, plenty leave me very warm

It is mainly mainstream mid to late 90's onwards VAG stuff that leaves me cold... effective transport, but that ISN'T what we are talking about here, we are talking about an antidote to humdrum motoring, not just moving from one dull kind of car to another!

[FamilyGuy]

liner33 said:

FamilyGuy said:

Silly thread title. Since when would an estate do the job of an MPV? If you can find a quick estate that'll take 2 adults, 4 children (all in ISOFIX seats) a double off-road buggy and two children's bikes then regardless of badge or price, you'll sell zilloins of them.

Not many people have 4 kids nowadays certainly not zillions most people I know who have MPV's have 2 kids and buy them for the occasional flexibility of the extra seats

Demand suggests that the extra seats are wanted and the estate doesn't have them - so the comparison remains silly

BTW - thank you for generously ignoring misspelling of "zilloins"

Edited by FamilyGuy on Wednesday 16th September 12:50

[Belfast Boy]

mp3manager said:

Oh dear, that is rank!

The LTD is better, infact its lifted straight from the Sirocco
The "V" was introduced when Ford took Skoda to court over using the "RS" tag even though Skoda had the 130 RS years before them, American bully tactics yet again! hmm!

Skoda 130 RS

[A - W]

But look at it's face!

[liner33]

FamilyGuy said:

liner33 said:

FamilyGuy said:

Silly thread title. Since when would an estate do the job of an MPV? If you can find a quick estate that'll take 2 adults, 4 children (all in ISOFIX seats) a double off-road buggy and two children's bikes then regardless of badge or price, you'll sell zilloins of them.

Not many people have 4 kids nowadays certainly not zillions most people I know who have MPV's have 2 kids and buy them for the occasional flexibility of the extra seats

Demand suggests that the extra seats are wanted and the estate doesn't have them - so the comparison remains silly

BTW - thank you for generously ignoring misspelling of "zilloins"

Edited by FamilyGuy on Wednesday 16th September 12:50

Demand suggests that most people dont know what they want and just buy what other people have , those i know who have had MPV's buy one and then replace it either with a big saloon with a roof box or a large estate car but rarely with another MPV*

• Except my uncle who is 50+ and prefers the driving position because he is a hobbit

[Belfast Boy]

A - W said:

But look at it's face!

aye???

[TheOrangePeril]

Dick_Phallus said:

alock said:

jamieboy said:

cheadle hulme said:

Why pay 50% more for an equivalent 3 series touring?

Partly because the 3-series interior is likely to be less cheap and nasty*.

If I didn't know better, I'd suspect they make the vRS interior so bad purely so they sell more Audis.

* based on whichever version of vRS was current this time last year

In the quantities BMW purchase, any quality difference in material is a few hundred pounds at most. Where's the other £10K?

The badge on the front. BMW = successful to the majority of the population.

Oh sorry, I thought it meant 'tosser'.

[Belfast Boy]

I think what needs to be said here is that the VRS is something that the ordinary guy can use as both a family car, a car for to carry crap to the dump and have a bit of fun with on the way back home. Some of us are not fortunate to have the money to have a Ferrari or a Caterham tucked away in the garage.
So its a happy mix that keeps the family happy.
As for am RS2/4?I know a guy that traded his RS2 in for one and as far as I know from the last time I heard from him, he was using it as a tow car for his Porsche 993 Race car.
He didn't want to fork out £1500 for brakes on the Audi.

I figured out the what the chap in the Volvo was talking about> the front of the 130 RS >>>Retro Face<<<<




Very 1970s

[Karlos69]

Belfast Boy said:

I think what needs to be said here is that the VRS is something that the ordinary guy can use as both a family car, a car for to carry crap to the dump and have a bit of fun with on the way back home. Some of us are not fortunate to have the money to have a Ferrari or a Caterham tucked away in the garage.
So its a happy mix that keeps the family happy.
As for am RS2/4?I know a guy that traded his RS2 in for one and as far as I know from the last time I heard from him, he was using it as a tow car for his Porsche 993 Race car.
He didn't want to fork out £1500 for brakes on the Audi.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there really.

Ultimately, there are plenty of us on here that would dearly love something fast, exotic or otherwise blisteringly quick, but real life gets in the way.

Most PHers have to settle for something a touch more affordable and realistic and cars like the vRS are ideal - like Belfast Boy said, it allows you to do all the things you need to do with a car that's your only car, your daily driver, but still allows you to "press on" when the mood takes you (and doesn't break the bank on wear and tear items).

[mp3manager]

Belfast Boy said:

mp3manager said:

Oh dear, that is rank!

The LTD is better, infact its lifted straight from the Sirocco

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I currently run an Octavia, but although it's very cheap and reliable it's also a really rubbish environment to spend a lot of time in.

Says it all really.
Skoda interiors are rank and are designed to be minicab-friendly.

[Belfast Boy]

They should of brought this out, but they didn't think it would sell???????
A Skoda Scirocco

[liner33]

mp3manager said:

Says it all really.
Skoda interiors are rank and are designed to be minicab-friendly.

But he doesnt have a VRS but a more basic model so not exactly a "basic VAG cars are dull" shocker is it ??

[Mr Whippy]

Karlos69 said:

Belfast Boy said:

I think what needs to be said here is that the VRS is something that the ordinary guy can use as both a family car, a car for to carry crap to the dump and have a bit of fun with on the way back home. Some of us are not fortunate to have the money to have a Ferrari or a Caterham tucked away in the garage.
So its a happy mix that keeps the family happy.
As for am RS2/4?I know a guy that traded his RS2 in for one and as far as I know from the last time I heard from him, he was using it as a tow car for his Porsche 993 Race car.
He didn't want to fork out £1500 for brakes on the Audi.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there really.

Ultimately, there are plenty of us on here that would dearly love something fast, exotic or otherwise blisteringly quick, but real life gets in the way.

Most PHers have to settle for something a touch more affordable and realistic and cars like the vRS are ideal - like Belfast Boy said, it allows you to do all the things you need to do with a car that's your only car, your daily driver, but still allows you to "press on" when the mood takes you (and doesn't break the bank on wear and tear items).

But it isn't even very special to drive. So once you've towed a trailer, taken kids to school, and taken rubbish to the tip, it's not going to set the world alight much more than a decent MPV I wouldn't think.

So what are Skoda trying to sell it as?

If it had 250bhp (GTi30 edition), and was setup to set your hair on fire, fine, but it's clearly not!

The vRS badge is meaningless, or if it is indicative of a sporty model I really do worry what the non vRS ones are like from a thrills and fun POV!
You can stick 200bhp in any mid sized saloon/estate, it doesn't make it a good car or an antidote to an MPV.

Old shape Mondeo ST220 I rekon would be the winner for the thrills aspect, which is after all the reason you are moving from a DULL MPV to an *interesting* estate car. Moving to a dull but fairly powerful estate car isn't really a step worth making unless you just don't want an MPV... if that is the case, then fine, clearly a damn good car the Octavia vRS, but not a FUN car!

Dave

[lordgibbness]

The vRS is basically a Golf GTI in a different body. The GTI gets better reviews than most MPVs so surely this vRS is quite good too?

[Mr Whippy]

Not sure really, the last vRS I thought was dull.

A great car, brisky, well made, refined, comfy, a lovely 'car', but it was just dull.

Dave

[Belfast Boy]

but surely most cars us mere mortals can own are dull anyways? not sure on the mondeo, I think the most interesting thing Ford europe make is square and has no back seats, the Subaru/Mits are even duller and Vauxhall, MINI are just as cheap and Nasty. But £333 0000 would get you a Spyker, thats not so dull inside or out!?

[zakelwe]

FamilyGuy said:

Silly thread title. Since when would an estate do the job of an MPV? If you can find a quick estate that'll take 2 adults, 4 children (all in ISOFIX seats) a double off-road buggy and two children's bikes then regardless of badge or price, you'll sell zilloins of them.

I've seen 5 kids in a Volvo, 2 facing backwards and it still has more room than a Mainly Purposeless Vehicle. People just buy them because they think they have to if they have kids. My sister in law has a Zafira because she has 2 sons. They do football sometimes and so have to take other people so it becomes "a requirement". It would be far cheaper to buy a Corsa and hire a taxi for the other 8 or 9 times a year she actually needs 7 seats.

All MPV's do is allow manufacturers to charge sheep for an incredible amount of wasted space above the dashboard.

Regards
Andy

[patmahe]

From what I've read in this thread, there are a surprising amount of badge snobs on PH, I've long been an admirer of the Octavia Vrs and believe as far as practical, useable, everyday performance cars go one of these would be all you'd ever need. It may not be perfect but pound per pound its better than most of the alternatives.