Which "modern" cars rust badly?

Which "modern" cars rust badly?

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Marquis_Rex

7,377 posts

240 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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What is this rust you speak of?

deviant

4,316 posts

211 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Merry said:
CampDavid said:
Interestingly Fiat seem to have cracked it, the Brava/Bravo seems to avoid rust brilliantly. It's unreliable everywhere else but the body holds up!
My Puntos standing up pretty well too. Not found a patch on it as of yet and its pushing 13 years old now..
I believe Fiat started galvanising their cars 15+ years a go.

It amazes me that cars built for the European market were never built to actually keep out the moisture!

mcford

819 posts

175 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Suzuki Wagon R and the similar Vauxhall Agila tend to go structurally on the sills. Alot of it depends on how the car is looked after. I have seen plenty of cars with large cosmetic rust patches that have been caused by untreated stone chips.

These days corrosion has been overtaken by the cost and complexity of replacing/repairing electronics and complicated mechanical components as a reason for scrapping a car.

Orb the Impaler

1,881 posts

191 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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cptsideways said:
C Class Mercs also known as the Corrosion Class - Like Silver 70's Datsun's
Yup - Mrs Orb(s) C Class Coupe (2002 model) is suffering badly on the front arches and one of the rears, has bubbles on the drivers door handle and a random scab on the door. Truly shocking.

As far as I'm aware this seems to only be an issue from around 2000 to 2003.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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poshboyracer said:
Stu - B said:
robsti said:
Wife had a 99 mercedes c240 sport it had 2x front wings 2xdoors 2x rear wheel arches resprayed and a new bootlid all done under warranty! she now drives an Audi.
Did they not have the correct panels?
lolz. Love your work.
rofl

+1

TheRoadWarrior

1,241 posts

179 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Disco_Biscuit said:
Dodge Caliber, 2 years old and rusting
WOW.. someone actually purchased one!

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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TheRoadWarrior said:
Disco_Biscuit said:
Dodge Caliber, 2 years old and rusting
WOW.. someone actually purchased one!
hehe Deja vu page 2:

Disco_Biscuit said:
crossle said:
Disco_Biscuit said:
Dodge Caliber, 2 years old and rusting
Ha ha! Somebody actually BOUGHT a Caliber?!
laugh
Yeah my boss, hehe

Roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Also agree that Fiat have seemingly got it right. My 1993 Cinquecento was sold at 7 years old with 103'000 miles on the clock. Not a spot of rust on it. The 3 year old Golf GTI I replaced it was rusting badly by it's 4th year and less than half the mileage of the Fiat.

As was of some small support for the Ford corner though, if you look after them, they don't rust. My 22 year old Sierra is immaculate wink

useyourdellusion

5,648 posts

191 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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V6Alfisti said:
Merc's and BMW E36//E39/E46 seem to have a number of problems with rust.

MX5's sometimes on the rear arches too smile

Edited by V6Alfisti on Sunday 18th October 21:30
My 330ci had started to go where the passenger-side door-latch was bolted to the bodywork.

It looked minor - but it really disappointed me. Lovely car otherwise.


ETA - it was three years old with 18000 miles under its belt. frown

Edited by useyourdellusion on Monday 19th October 08:43

crofty1984

15,871 posts

205 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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gradeAfailure said:
Mk3 Golfs - sills mainly but also bottoms of doors, top of windscreen, rear arches, bootlid..
Leading edge of bonnet under the rubber strip.

bazking69

8,620 posts

191 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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mk3 Golf, E36 BMW and indeed recent Mercs.

Leicesterdave

2,282 posts

181 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Ford KA's are by far the worse I've seen- disgraceful. Cheap car it may be- but any modern car shouldn't rust anywhere near as bad as they do.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

183 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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My folks bought a 2003 Fiesta Fun (last of the Mk3 I think?), and it was rotting from the back arch back. Ford scrapped it after 8 months of fighting and replaced it with a newer car.

My housemate's mother had to get a front subframe put in her Almera (first of the current shape), the MOT folks said the engine was about to fall out there was so much rust. The were right - when the guy replacing the subframe loosed the top engine mount the engine basically fell out, only saved by the engine crane.

martin vr6

3,774 posts

202 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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useyourdellusion said:
V6Alfisti said:
Merc's and BMW E36//E39/E46 seem to have a number of problems with rust.

MX5's sometimes on the rear arches too smile

Edited by V6Alfisti on Sunday 18th October 21:30
My 330ci had started to go where the passenger-side door-latch was bolted to the bodywork.

It looked minor - but it really disappointed me. Lovely car otherwise.


ETA - it was three years old with 18000 miles under its belt. frown

Edited by useyourdellusion on Monday 19th October 08:43
This is a common fault on all E46 Coupes Inc the M3, but if there's a FBMWSH present then it will be repaired through the warranty without any trouble

redstu

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2,287 posts

240 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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There seems to be no excuse for much of the defects reported in this thread. It cant surely be incompetence it must be down to cost cutting.

I think that the quality of steel used has a huge effect on how quicly rust takes hold and how far it spreads. Anyone a metalurgist who could shed some light on this?

theironduke

6,995 posts

189 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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Not really PH chariots i know....LDV Convoy Vans rust like nobodys business, when i used to work for a certin council it was embarassing to see the LDVs parked up next to the Transits in the yard...sad indictment of what's left (was) of British vehicle building...i know they were built to a price but even so....this is 2009 not 1969.

sniff diesel

13,107 posts

213 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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theironduke said:
Not really PH chariots i know....LDV Convoy Vans rust like nobodys business, when i used to work for a certin council it was embarassing to see the LDVs parked up next to the Transits in the yard...sad indictment of what's left (was) of British vehicle building...i know they were built to a price but even so....this is 2009 not 1969.
MK7 Transits are already starting to rust.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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BMW E39 Touring

The tailgated is made from Ryvita.

ClaphamGT3

11,302 posts

244 months

Monday 19th October 2009
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My old W220 S Class Mercedes needed its rear wheel-arches doing at 4 1/2 years old.

Original Jeep Cherokees are also renowned for rusting out where the steering rack mounts to the bulk-head, which nearly always writes off the 4.0 litre models, as its an engine-out job to fix it.

Morningside

24,110 posts

230 months

Tuesday 20th October 2009
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sniff diesel said:
theironduke said:
Not really PH chariots i know....LDV Convoy Vans rust like nobodys business, when i used to work for a certin council it was embarassing to see the LDVs parked up next to the Transits in the yard...sad indictment of what's left (was) of British vehicle building...i know they were built to a price but even so....this is 2009 not 1969.
MK7 Transits are already starting to rust.
Transits are dreadful for rusting. The old shape was even worse.