Ford Puma. Talk to me
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thetapeworm said:
Mine failed it's MOT on the rear bushes last month, I decided to go with Powerflex all round as my OH has them on hers in conjunction with Ford Racing shocks and Bilstein lower springs - it's still comfortable and compliant but sits nicer and feels slightly more direct in comparison.
However this is comparing new with my tired and disintegrated ones.
I asked on the Puma forum and the general feeback was that Powerflex are good at the front end but don't do the car any favours at the back, a lot of people reverted back to OEM bushes after fitting Powerflex on the rear.
With this in mind, and the reduced cost, I went with OEM and it's tightened the back end up a lot and made it feel much nicer to drive. I still think the car sits too high but it handles great so I'll live with that.
I'm wittering on now but what I guess I'm saying is that having new OEM bushes will probably make a world of difference compared with old worn ones, the jump to Powerflex might be a step too far for some and the money saved can be spent on other things like better brakes
If you don't mind me asking: What did you pay for the shocks/ springs?However this is comparing new with my tired and disintegrated ones.
I asked on the Puma forum and the general feeback was that Powerflex are good at the front end but don't do the car any favours at the back, a lot of people reverted back to OEM bushes after fitting Powerflex on the rear.
With this in mind, and the reduced cost, I went with OEM and it's tightened the back end up a lot and made it feel much nicer to drive. I still think the car sits too high but it handles great so I'll live with that.
I'm wittering on now but what I guess I'm saying is that having new OEM bushes will probably make a world of difference compared with old worn ones, the jump to Powerflex might be a step too far for some and the money saved can be spent on other things like better brakes
BarnatosGhost said:
RDE said:
BarnatosGhost said:
The Ford Racing Puma is THE BEST fwd car I've ever driven.
It is Brrrrrrilliant.
I would very much like one, and I'm as evangelical about rwd as anyone.
Have you ever driven a DC2 ITR? I've driven neither, but on the off-chance that you'd driven both I wondered how you thought they measured up. It is Brrrrrrilliant.
I would very much like one, and I'm as evangelical about rwd as anyone.
vendetta said:
If you don't mind me asking: What did you pay for the shocks/ springs?
I'm not sure how much they were I'm afraid, they came on the car and I don't think we have a receipt for them, I'll have a look through later.She was really lucky with the car she bought, a real Puma enthusiast owned it and he'd fixed all the little niggles, tried to protect against rust before it appeared, replaced lots of parts with uprated stuff and even fitted an FRP intake manifold. Annoys me when I have the rusty old one but a quick drive in either usually brings the smile back
tommobot said:
Had a FRP, later followed by a DC2. As the above post said, the FRP is very darty, very light and very good into corners. Monumental grip. But very little feel through the wheel. However, DC2 seems a bit 'saggier' at first, but steering weights up as you apply more lock, and although it wasnt as good into corners the way it charged out of corners was phenominal. Had a Clio Trophy aswell between owning the two, and although I found it boring (too refinded) it probably had the best bits of both of them. But with woeful brakes.
You valuable resource, you! DC2 vs. Trophy will probably be the kind of decision i'll hopefully be making in a years time or so. Do you think the Trophy is the best all-rounder then? Or is the DC2 more special as an ownership prospect?tommobot said:
BarnatosGhost said:
RDE said:
BarnatosGhost said:
The Ford Racing Puma is THE BEST fwd car I've ever driven.
It is Brrrrrrilliant.
I would very much like one, and I'm as evangelical about rwd as anyone.
Have you ever driven a DC2 ITR? I've driven neither, but on the off-chance that you'd driven both I wondered how you thought they measured up. It is Brrrrrrilliant.
I would very much like one, and I'm as evangelical about rwd as anyone.
Merry said:
Well thanks everyone, this thread has now convinced me that I want one.
Hopefully i'm going looking at one next weekend
Hopefully i'm going looking at one next weekend
Good man!
My car is on 57k and the suspension doesn't feel too bad, I'm certainly impressed so I don't think it warrants a full refresh just yet. Saying that I'm looking at replacing the bushes soon and I think I will go down the OEM route, I've read one report too many which says the poly bushes are too non-compliant.
I'm also tempted by Eibach springs, Ford themselves recommend them and sell them as an option, if they are like Eibachs I've had in the past then they shold be a good compromise between soft as butter nd hard as nails!
raf_gti said:
Merry said:
Well thanks everyone, this thread has now convinced me that I want one.
Hopefully i'm going looking at one next weekend
Hopefully i'm going looking at one next weekend
Good man!
My car is on 57k and the suspension doesn't feel too bad, I'm certainly impressed so I don't think it warrants a full refresh just yet. Saying that I'm looking at replacing the bushes soon and I think I will go down the OEM route, I've read one report too many which says the poly bushes are too non-compliant.
I'm also tempted by Eibach springs, Ford themselves recommend them and sell them as an option, if they are like Eibachs I've had in the past then they shold be a good compromise between soft as butter nd hard as nails!
I probably going to pay a bit of premium for the piece of mind of knowing the previous owner and how he drives etc.
Couple of questions, how much/how easy are the bushes to replace and are there any rust spots (apart from the rear arches) I really need to look for.
Merry said:
raf_gti said:
Merry said:
Well thanks everyone, this thread has now convinced me that I want one.
Hopefully i'm going looking at one next weekend
Hopefully i'm going looking at one next weekend
Good man!
My car is on 57k and the suspension doesn't feel too bad, I'm certainly impressed so I don't think it warrants a full refresh just yet. Saying that I'm looking at replacing the bushes soon and I think I will go down the OEM route, I've read one report too many which says the poly bushes are too non-compliant.
I'm also tempted by Eibach springs, Ford themselves recommend them and sell them as an option, if they are like Eibachs I've had in the past then they shold be a good compromise between soft as butter nd hard as nails!
I probably going to pay a bit of premium for the piece of mind of knowing the previous owner and how he drives etc.
Couple of questions, how much/how easy are the bushes to replace and are there any rust spots (apart from the rear arches) I really need to look for.
That sounds a little overpriced, especially as it is your Uncle who is selling it to you! Saying that if the condition is good then go for it.
Major rust spots are the rear arches and also in the sills, I'm Waxoyling mine this weekend to try and ward it off.
raf_gti said:
The one i'm looking at is currently my Uncles 1.7. Its done 91,000 miles and has a full service history/9 month MOT/Tax until Feb. Will be listening out for knocks and such though! He's wanting £1500 for it. Good buy?
I probably going to pay a bit of premium for the piece of mind of knowing the previous owner and how he drives etc.
Couple of questions, how much/how easy are the bushes to replace and are there any rust spots (apart from the rear arches) I really need to look for.
If thats what he is asking, I would expect he will take £1250...I probably going to pay a bit of premium for the piece of mind of knowing the previous owner and how he drives etc.
Couple of questions, how much/how easy are the bushes to replace and are there any rust spots (apart from the rear arches) I really need to look for.
I paid 1400 for one last year, W reg, 1.7, years MOT, 8 months tax, new tyres, new clutch. TBH, 1500 seems steep.
Edited by vendetta on Friday 13th November 18:26
Merry said:
Right, all noted.
I'll probably go for £1300, it is in very good condition for the mileage and age. He's being quite flexible with regards paying for it if I went for it so I don't want to go in too low.
Lesson: I was always taught that the offer should be so low it makes you cringe. Id go in at 1200 and say 1250 max and he will then probably go for £1300. If you start at 1.3g's he might push you to £1400.I'll probably go for £1300, it is in very good condition for the mileage and age. He's being quite flexible with regards paying for it if I went for it so I don't want to go in too low.
Pretend not to be too bothered about it and try to pick any faults with it.
Of course if you really want it and are more than happy to pay then you will, but he is your uncle and so should be doing you a favour! All IMO!
vendetta said:
Merry said:
Right, all noted.
I'll probably go for £1300, it is in very good condition for the mileage and age. He's being quite flexible with regards paying for it if I went for it so I don't want to go in too low.
Lesson: I was always taught that the offer should be so low it makes you cringe. Id go in at 1200 and say 1250 max and he will then probably go for £1300. If you start at 1.3g's he might push you to £1400.I'll probably go for £1300, it is in very good condition for the mileage and age. He's being quite flexible with regards paying for it if I went for it so I don't want to go in too low.
Pretend not to be too bothered about it and try to pick any faults with it.
Of course if you really want it and are more than happy to pay then you will, but he is your uncle and so should be doing you a favour! All IMO!
I just bought one for my missus and love it, 3hr drive to get it home and the handling is great and plenty of poke for it's size
Only downside is the front seats, most uncomfortable seats I've come across, like sitting on a wooden bench
Going to see if any of the other ford seats are a direct fit.
Only downside is the front seats, most uncomfortable seats I've come across, like sitting on a wooden bench
Going to see if any of the other ford seats are a direct fit.
1BJ said:
Merry said:
Well i bought it in the end, £1350. Some rust on the arches, but nothing major.
Quite pleased really, thanks for the advice everyone too.
FSH, timing belt, serviced, tax n mot'd I presume Quite pleased really, thanks for the advice everyone too.
?To be honest i should of driven a harder bargain, but it was far too hard to keep the smile of my face after i'd driven it.
Looking forward to tomorrow when i can get the insurance sorted.
- edited cos i cant count
Edited by Merry on Sunday 22 November 19:29
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TIMING-BELT-KIT-FORD-PUMA-1....
Plus 2-3hrs labour at 30-40 quid per hr. Shouldn't be more than £200
Plus 2-3hrs labour at 30-40 quid per hr. Shouldn't be more than £200
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