Ford Puma. Talk to me
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NiceCupOfTea said:
Mostly it's been said. Check cambwlt is changed, it will have rusty arches and maybe sills. Check service schedule has been stuck to properly! Correct oil and coolant.
Build quality is not up to BMW standards and it feels.cheap imho. 1.7s did have a cylinder liner issue but not sure how you check it! Heater valve will break repeatedly but an easy fix.
Cd stacker 6006 is rubbish and will eat your cds. I don't like the driving position - too high and hard seats that you sit on rather than in. Doesn't feel special inside, and visibility. Is poor - small rear window and large a and c pillars. Water pours into the boot if you open hatch fast.
Having said that, I love my wife's. It's nippy and handles really nicely. Go for it!
Yes I think some 1.7's had nickasil linings as the block was bored out to max with no linersBuild quality is not up to BMW standards and it feels.cheap imho. 1.7s did have a cylinder liner issue but not sure how you check it! Heater valve will break repeatedly but an easy fix.
Cd stacker 6006 is rubbish and will eat your cds. I don't like the driving position - too high and hard seats that you sit on rather than in. Doesn't feel special inside, and visibility. Is poor - small rear window and large a and c pillars. Water pours into the boot if you open hatch fast.
Having said that, I love my wife's. It's nippy and handles really nicely. Go for it!
so if you don't have a comprehensive oil change history with the car be wary... 1.4 amd 1.6 had liners... IIRC
ceriw said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
Mostly it's been said. Check cambwlt is changed, it will have rusty arches and maybe sills. Check service schedule has been stuck to properly! Correct oil and coolant.
Build quality is not up to BMW standards and it feels.cheap imho. 1.7s did have a cylinder liner issue but not sure how you check it! Heater valve will break repeatedly but an easy fix.
Cd stacker 6006 is rubbish and will eat your cds. I don't like the driving position - too high and hard seats that you sit on rather than in. Doesn't feel special inside, and visibility. Is poor - small rear window and large a and c pillars. Water pours into the boot if you open hatch fast.
Having said that, I love my wife's. It's nippy and handles really nicely. Go for it!
Yes I think some 1.7's had nickasil linings as the block was bored out to max with no linersBuild quality is not up to BMW standards and it feels.cheap imho. 1.7s did have a cylinder liner issue but not sure how you check it! Heater valve will break repeatedly but an easy fix.
Cd stacker 6006 is rubbish and will eat your cds. I don't like the driving position - too high and hard seats that you sit on rather than in. Doesn't feel special inside, and visibility. Is poor - small rear window and large a and c pillars. Water pours into the boot if you open hatch fast.
Having said that, I love my wife's. It's nippy and handles really nicely. Go for it!
so if you don't have a comprehensive oil change history with the car be wary... 1.4 amd 1.6 had liners... IIRC
ceriw said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
Mostly it's been said. Check cambwlt is changed, it will have rusty arches and maybe sills. Check service schedule has been stuck to properly! Correct oil and coolant.
Build quality is not up to BMW standards and it feels.cheap imho. 1.7s did have a cylinder liner issue but not sure how you check it! Heater valve will break repeatedly but an easy fix.
Cd stacker 6006 is rubbish and will eat your cds. I don't like the driving position - too high and hard seats that you sit on rather than in. Doesn't feel special inside, and visibility. Is poor - small rear window and large a and c pillars. Water pours into the boot if you open hatch fast.
Having said that, I love my wife's. It's nippy and handles really nicely. Go for it!
Yes I think some 1.7's had nickasil linings as the block was bored out to max with no linersBuild quality is not up to BMW standards and it feels.cheap imho. 1.7s did have a cylinder liner issue but not sure how you check it! Heater valve will break repeatedly but an easy fix.
Cd stacker 6006 is rubbish and will eat your cds. I don't like the driving position - too high and hard seats that you sit on rather than in. Doesn't feel special inside, and visibility. Is poor - small rear window and large a and c pillars. Water pours into the boot if you open hatch fast.
Having said that, I love my wife's. It's nippy and handles really nicely. Go for it!
so if you don't have a comprehensive oil change history with the car be wary... 1.4 amd 1.6 had liners... IIRC
We have 2 Pumas in the collection, my rusty old green 1.7 with a few mild enhancements and my other half has a rather nice silver one with FRP engine parts, better suspension etc - both are an absolute hoot to drive and never fail to bring a smile without needing to go up to silly speeds.
Motorway refinement is OK, slightly too many revs at crusing speed in 5th that has me grabbing for a 6th gear but otherwise comfy enough.
I bought mine as a daily driver to keep my main car as something special for the weekend - this back-fired and I use the Puma for spirited drives more than the other car now. Not a perfect driving machine but great value for money, cheap to own and fun to throw around.
My two pence worth...
So far everyones been bob on. cambelt, rust, brake pipes etc. Iv just had all the rust fixed on mine and other bits and peices. Its amazingly cheap to repair/replace things and the mechanic I use says its as easy to work on as a fiesta as its the same car really. Plus Tax and insurance are very affordable.
Rear seats can be a problem on long journeys because of the foot space, I often get put in the back if we have 4 people in my car and my partner drives. Yes you do need to be diddy to fit in but its comfortable to be driven around in. Its good on motorways, we go to north yorkshire and back atleast once a month, never had any numb bums lol.
Driving this car is a pleasure! Going from a fiesta to a puma about 3yrs ago was awesome, it goes round corners like its stuck to the road and when you put your foot down its responsive and gear changes are smooth to boot!
On the "girls car" comment... yes I can see it is quite a femmine car, smooth lines and curves but my partner (who is a man!) is now on his second puma. To be honest, most pumas I see are driven by men now. They are quite easy to modify and tweek so are becoming more popular with people who like to add their own stamp on a car. And I dont just mean boy racers haha.
In conclusion.... pumas are alot of fun and Iv never looked back
So far everyones been bob on. cambelt, rust, brake pipes etc. Iv just had all the rust fixed on mine and other bits and peices. Its amazingly cheap to repair/replace things and the mechanic I use says its as easy to work on as a fiesta as its the same car really. Plus Tax and insurance are very affordable.
Rear seats can be a problem on long journeys because of the foot space, I often get put in the back if we have 4 people in my car and my partner drives. Yes you do need to be diddy to fit in but its comfortable to be driven around in. Its good on motorways, we go to north yorkshire and back atleast once a month, never had any numb bums lol.
Driving this car is a pleasure! Going from a fiesta to a puma about 3yrs ago was awesome, it goes round corners like its stuck to the road and when you put your foot down its responsive and gear changes are smooth to boot!
On the "girls car" comment... yes I can see it is quite a femmine car, smooth lines and curves but my partner (who is a man!) is now on his second puma. To be honest, most pumas I see are driven by men now. They are quite easy to modify and tweek so are becoming more popular with people who like to add their own stamp on a car. And I dont just mean boy racers haha.
In conclusion.... pumas are alot of fun and Iv never looked back
Edited by pumalucy on Wednesday 21st October 15:42
Edited by pumalucy on Wednesday 21st October 15:43
RobCrezz said:
neil_bolton said:
How did you go from a 328 to a Puma?
I'm not knocking the Puma, I'd love to have a razz in one, but I can't figure out why you wouldn't want a 328 if you had the choice?
Cheaper to run!I'm not knocking the Puma, I'd love to have a razz in one, but I can't figure out why you wouldn't want a 328 if you had the choice?
Still it's a fair shout.
The only thing thats really gone wrong with the missus puma (aside from her covering it in pink flower decals) is theres a heater valve that has broken twice, an hours job to replace, but its a common problem apparantly (personally i would go for the BMW though, there in a totally different league, i had an E36, and now upgraded to an E46 M3 and loving every minute)
Papa Hotel said:
MarJay said:
BMW = RWD = Win
Puma = FWD = Fail.
Puma = FWD = Fail.
Wow, deep insight there. Keep up the good work.
Its not meant to be incisive comment on the subtleties of automotive layout, its meant to put across my opinion as to why I believe it would be preferable to buy a BMW 328 over a ford Poo-ma. I believe I was successful.
In the mean time, would you like to prove (with diagrams where appropriate) that FWD is a better layout for a drivers car?
St John Smythe said:
I used to think along these lines until a recent trackday at Brands Hatch. Some of the FWD cars were almost lapping some of the 'real driver's' rear wheel drive cars. Then I realised that all this RWD stuff on the most part is nonsense.
Thats more down to the fact that 90% of people drive with a FWD 'style' (Gas off through corner) as opposed to a more RWD oriented style (which, like riding a motorcycle, is more gas smoothly on through corner).
neil_bolton said:
How did you go from a 328 to a Puma?
I'm not knocking the Puma, I'd love to have a razz in one, but I can't figure out why you wouldn't want a 328 if you had the choice?
Running costs and initial purchase cost are the two main reasons.I'm not knocking the Puma, I'd love to have a razz in one, but I can't figure out why you wouldn't want a 328 if you had the choice?
My main criteria for a new car is enjoyment, as I currently drive a Passat any form of 'drivers' car would be acceptable! I also don't have to worry about ferrying passengers around but I do need a form of practicality to get a bike in the rear.
So, both the Puma and the 328 meet the criteria, unfortunately the 328s within my current budget are at best ropey and I can get a far better Puma for the money.
I'm sure I would be equally happy with both tho.
MarJay said:
Papa Hotel said:
MarJay said:
BMW = RWD = Win
Puma = FWD = Fail.
Puma = FWD = Fail.
Wow, deep insight there. Keep up the good work.
Its not meant to be incisive comment on the subtleties of automotive layout, its meant to put across my opinion as to why I believe it would be preferable to buy a BMW 328 over a ford Poo-ma. I believe I was successful.
In the mean time, would you like to prove (with diagrams where appropriate) that FWD is a better layout for a drivers car?
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