RE: Toshio Suzuki's GT-R Nurburgring Lap

RE: Toshio Suzuki's GT-R Nurburgring Lap

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dorikin2009

40 posts

174 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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WOW, what a way to pass 8 minutes of your life.

How do you top that Chris? Perhaps being pulled along on a skateboard after a Radical SR8 is the next step.

Could you make out any interesting information from the centre display? In fact, could you even see the centre display?

irf

812 posts

225 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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brilliant video!

love how he looks in the mirror at 4.52, yeah like somone's really gonna have caught you up!biggrin

Godzilla

2,033 posts

249 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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johnfelstead said:
Godzilla said:
Absolutely unbe-fricking-lievable!

I like the quick "OK?" at 1:30. Like, "Are you going to hurl chunks all over my nice clean GT-R interior?" biggrin

That's why Suzuki-san gets better times than anyone else in a GT-R. He deliberately provokes the car's attitude for every single one of the 70-odd corners with his trademark "double feint" turn-in which forces the car into 4WD mode earlier than it otherwise would.

Simply staggering.

Did you have time to see if he was left foot braking Chris? I presume so.
Strange driving style, if you have to drive like that to get a time out of the car then i don't think much for the diff strategy they have come up with. You can see what a heavy lump the car is from that footage, i feel sorry for the tyres. biggrin
I think Suzuki-san discovered it was the absolute fastest way to get a totally standard R35 around the Ring. Dirk/Sabine/Rohl could probably beat Sport Auto's Von Saurma's time of 7:38 driving "conventionally", but Suzuki-san appears to have made it his life's work to constantly beat his own record and is utilising every trick he knows how.

From what I've heard, the tyres can only do one sub-7:30 lap in his hands before needing a lenghthy cool down/replacement!

havoc

30,065 posts

235 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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johnfelstead said:
Godzilla said:
Absolutely unbe-fricking-lievable!

I like the quick "OK?" at 1:30. Like, "Are you going to hurl chunks all over my nice clean GT-R interior?" biggrin

That's why Suzuki-san gets better times than anyone else in a GT-R. He deliberately provokes the car's attitude for every single one of the 70-odd corners with his trademark "double feint" turn-in which forces the car into 4WD mode earlier than it otherwise would.

Simply staggering.

Did you have time to see if he was left foot braking Chris? I presume so.
Strange driving style, if you have to drive like that to get a time out of the car then i don't think much for the diff strategy they have come up with. You can see what a heavy lump the car is from that footage, i feel sorry for the tyres. biggrin
Road- and track- diff set-ups would probably be quite different - you wouldn't want to entrust Joe Bloggs with a diff set-up tuned to just-on-the-edge-of-oversteer, now would you?!?

TomGTR

4 posts

173 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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That was absolutely spectacular....Chris is so lucky..

jackal

11,248 posts

282 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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once in a lifetime oppurtunity.. thanks for sharing

jackal

11,248 posts

282 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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Godzilla said:
That's why Suzuki-san gets better times than anyone else in a GT-R. He deliberately provokes the car's attitude for every single one of the 70-odd corners with his trademark "double feint" turn-in which forces the car into 4WD mode earlier than it otherwise would.
interesting.... was wondering what all that was about

whats 4wd mode then .. does that push more drive to the fronts and therefore give him more traction or something ? It looks like he's driving a forest stage half the time.




Edited by jackal on Monday 9th November 18:36

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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havoc said:
johnfelstead said:
Godzilla said:
Absolutely unbe-fricking-lievable!

I like the quick "OK?" at 1:30. Like, "Are you going to hurl chunks all over my nice clean GT-R interior?" biggrin

That's why Suzuki-san gets better times than anyone else in a GT-R. He deliberately provokes the car's attitude for every single one of the 70-odd corners with his trademark "double feint" turn-in which forces the car into 4WD mode earlier than it otherwise would.

Simply staggering.

Did you have time to see if he was left foot braking Chris? I presume so.
Strange driving style, if you have to drive like that to get a time out of the car then i don't think much for the diff strategy they have come up with. You can see what a heavy lump the car is from that footage, i feel sorry for the tyres. biggrin
Road- and track- diff set-ups would probably be quite different - you wouldn't want to entrust Joe Bloggs with a diff set-up tuned to just-on-the-edge-of-oversteer, now would you?!?
I don't see why not, if you choose to select that setting. My own car has the option to set the centre diff up manually so i can set the basic balance however i want it, or i can just leave the electronics to sort it out using it's inputs from the steering position, G sensor, Yaw sensor, throttle position, engine and vehicle speed, handbrake and ABS system. Even in Auto mode it has a tendency to oversteer at the limit if you drive it properly.

Edited by johnfelstead on Monday 9th November 18:42

snorkel sucker

2,662 posts

203 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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awesome! loving the way he took the carousel - beau-tiful! can see what you mean about his driving style, godzilla - did wonder why he appeared to be being so brutal with the car

having seen one blasting round oulton park a few months back, i still cant get over the sheer pace of the car, or the way it rips through the gears. a wonderful piece of automotive technology

Walton

329 posts

218 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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jackal said:
whats 4wd mode then .. does that push more drive to the fronts and therefore give him more traction or something ? It looks like he's driving a forest stage half the time.
Under normal driving around 95% of the torque gets sent to the rears (you can call up a digital display to show this), torque only gets shifted to the front when the car detects a loss of traction. Of course the car monitors loads of other stuff (G, steering wheel angel etc) so his strange technique might be trying to fool some other sensor.

pennswoodsed

48 posts

206 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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Whenever I see graffiti on this track or anywhere else for that matter I want to cut someones little balls off. They put the drivers at risk,and the track at liability so they could scrawl their meaningless slogans or names !

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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Here talks someone who knows nothing of the history of the place, it's all part of the challenge that is the nurburgring.

catharz

13 posts

283 months

Monday 9th November 2009
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LCR270 said:
The in car shot certainly highlights what the playstation generation are missing out on
Not all the "playstation" generation miss out. wink

Gran Turismo is what got me into cars and had me buy an old Lotus and go racing.
Watching Clarkson going sideways on Top Gear is what got me buying my current Evo IX though. smile

6655321

73,668 posts

255 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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LCR270 said:
The in car shot certainly highlights what the playstation generation are missing out on, very active forces going on inside the cabin - especially the passenger ;-)

Saw you kept glancing at speedo on the finishing 'straight', what did it top out at along there?
Playstation generation? Huh, what are you on about?

bakerjuk

268 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Did Chris manage to remove his fingernails from the sides of the seat or are they still buried deep in there?

I thought the drivers style was very jerky and not smooth at all, but what would I know as I could only lap in about 20 minutes driving

Mobile Chicane

20,828 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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For anyone who knows the Ring / a fast car that all looked a bit sedate to be honest.

Nissan infiltrators lurk within the hallowed portals? Doubters check the first few comments on this post. smile

So obvious, it's really rather pathetic...

6655321

73,668 posts

255 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Mobile Chicane said:
For anyone who knows the Ring / a fast car that all looked a bit sedate to be honest.

Nissan infiltrators lurk within the hallowed portals? Doubters check the first few comments on this post. smile

So obvious, it's really rather pathetic...
Are there many paranoid people on your planet?

Mobile Chicane

20,828 posts

212 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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6655321 said:
Mobile Chicane said:
For anyone who knows the Ring / a fast car that all looked a bit sedate to be honest.

Nissan infiltrators lurk within the hallowed portals? Doubters check the first few comments on this post. smile

So obvious, it's really rather pathetic...
Are there many paranoid people on your planet?
Not at all. I just 'know' this area of marketing. wink

6655321

73,668 posts

255 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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Mobile Chicane said:
6655321 said:
Mobile Chicane said:
For anyone who knows the Ring / a fast car that all looked a bit sedate to be honest.

Nissan infiltrators lurk within the hallowed portals? Doubters check the first few comments on this post. smile

So obvious, it's really rather pathetic...
Are there many paranoid people on your planet?
Not at all. I just 'know' this area of marketing. wink
So it is quite possible that you are from Porsche?

snolan

22 posts

174 months

Tuesday 10th November 2009
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just awesome i,d gladly sub the cost of fule for a similar experience