Which of todays hot hatches would you have?

[omgus]

Gone with the scooby, but next would be the Megane RS, have driven a 330s on a track experience day, you need to have faith in the front end and trust that it would behave in a manner like my scooby but once you do, wow, what a car it was. (still prefer the classics though)

Not driven a new megane but was very impressed with a friend of mines older one, enough to sway me towards it.

[300bhp/ton]

noble3r said:

Scirocco R gets my vote

None on the list. MINI Cooper S JCW weighs less than all of these. Although would probably prefer an R53 or DC5. Does an RX8 count?

[kambites]

300bhp/ton said:

noble3r said:

Scirocco R gets my vote

None on the list. MINI Cooper S JCW weighs less than all of these. Although would probably prefer an R53 or DC5. Does an RX8 count?

The MINI is a class smaller and utterly impractical.

[anonymous-user]

I'll have an Audi S3 Sportback thanks! You have missed quite a few Hyper Hatches off the list as well as the S3! such as the Seat Leon Cupra R, Mitsubish Lancer Ralliart, Volvo C30 T-5, and the BMW 130i

Edited by MonkeyMatt on Saturday 21st November 17:35

[kambites]

hora said:

kambites said:

hora said:

Crackers. Are you people chosing on retained value, corporate office carpark kudos and what the parents at the school gates would like?

Subaru. Without a doubt- just think the Focus (although tweaked) is 'nice'. The Scirocco? Ranks alongside the Brera for nice IMO

Subaru for raw PH-appeal anyday.

Except the new Imprezza has had decidedly mediocre reviews all 'round and the Scirocco and RS have had universally good ones.

If I was going to have a shuffle over one of these cars. It wouldnt be the Focus, or the 3door-squashed Golf. It would be the Scooby. All day everyday

That's fair enough, but you seemed to be implying that it was an objectively better drivers' car when all the reviews imply exactly the opposite. Or perhaps I have a different definition of PH-appeal to you.

[noble3r]

I find it crazy to think anyone would pay upwards of 27K for a 'new' subaru

just my opinion

[kambites]

noble3r said:

I find it crazy to think anyone would pay upwards of 27K for a 'new' subaru

just my opinion

I find it crazy to think that anyone would pay upwards of anything for any 'new' car, given how they tend to depreciate.

[kambites]

hora said:

noble3r said:

I find it crazy to think anyone would pay upwards of 27K for a 'new' subaru

just my opinion

Even madder, who pays almost 20k for the 1.4 entry level Scirocco? Basically a Golf?

This is something I don't understand. What has the capacity of the engine got to do with anything? It's got about 170bhp hasn't it?

[300bhp/ton]

kambites said:

300bhp/ton said:

noble3r said:

Scirocco R gets my vote

None on the list. MINI Cooper S JCW weighs less than all of these. Although would probably prefer an R53 or DC5. Does an RX8 count?

The MINI is a class smaller and utterly impractical.

Smaller class surely makes it lighter and more
nimble surely? Also I didn't see the op specified anything for practicality.

[kambites]

300bhp/ton said:

kambites said:

300bhp/ton said:

noble3r said:

Scirocco R gets my vote

None on the list. MINI Cooper S JCW weighs less than all of these. Although would probably prefer an R53 or DC5. Does an RX8 count?

The MINI is a class smaller and utterly impractical.

Smaller class surely makes it lighter and more
nimble surely? Also I didn't see the op specified anything for practicality.

No but he didn't include any of the smaller class of hot hatches so it's not unreasonable to infer that he was talking about the bigger ones that you can actually get four people in.

[Menguin]

I voted for the Renault. The rocco just looks too wide and high, I mistook a Renault Espace for one in the dark the other day!

[noble3r]

Menguin said:

I voted for the Renault. The rocco just looks too wide and high, I mistook a Renault Espace for one in the dark the other day!

although i really like the look of the Scirocco R the more I see pics of it from behind i take your point of it looking to high.

wouldn't it be interesting to see the values of all in the poll after a year.

the megane would not doubt 'then' be a bargin. only the RS Focus and Scirocco R are limited editions.

Edited by noble3r on Saturday 21st November 17:49

Edited by noble3r on Saturday 21st November 17:51

[k-ink]

Personally I wouldn't pay more than a few grand for a FWD hatchback.

[kambites]

hora said:

8secs/158bhp? I'd prefer the Golf GTI above the Scirocco. Anyway I am biased. I'm not a Ford or VW fan!

That's another thing I've never understood. How can someone be a fan or otherwise of a marque as diverse as Ford or VW? It's not as if their cars are all designed by the same person.

[TotalControl]

'Rocco for me. Just because it's that little bit different.

[Munter]

Focus because I had a MK1 Focus (1.8) and thought it was great.

Assuming buying 2nd hand and on a budget though I'd get the Mazda 3 MPS. They always seem a bargain.

[dom180]

None.

If I wanted b-road fun/occational track day I'd go Renaultsport.

For family/practical use, I'd go Golf GTI - barely slower than a 'rocco R around a track according to this month's issue of Car and save some cash.

Edited by dom180 on Saturday 21st November 17:59

[Munter]

dom180 said:

If I wanted b-road fun/occational track day I'd go Renaultsport.

The RenaultSport in the list not what you're looking for?

[kambites]

hora said:

kambites said:

hora said:

8secs/158bhp? I'd prefer the Golf GTI above the Scirocco. Anyway I am biased. I'm not a Ford or VW fan!

That's another thing I've never understood. How can someone be a fan or otherwise of a marque as diverse as Ford or VW? It's not as if their cars are all designed by the same person.

See where you are coming from. I just find the VW cars have a common theme- hard to put your finger on but the best way I can describe it as soul or quirkiness (none of their cars contain their own unique soul- they seem to be an almageration of at least another VW overlapping)

I know what you mean, but I'd level the same criticism at just about all mainstream car manufacturers. Even Alfa and BMW these days don't seem to offer anything particularly interesting.

Edited by kambites on Saturday 21st November 18:02

[dom180]

Munter said:

dom180 said:

If I wanted b-road fun/occational track day I'd go Renaultsport.

The RenaultSport in the list not what you're looking for?

No, for b-road fun a Clio or Twingo Cup would probably be more fun, smaller, more hot-hatch-ish and a lot cheaper.

Edited by dom180 on Saturday 21st November 18:04