RE: Driven: BMW X6M
Discussion
VladD said:
Podie said:
snake doctor said:
It's amazing how many people talk about the impractical nature of the X6M, yet will see nothing wrong with a 2 seat Lamborghini etc with no luggage space, low slung and obnoxiously loud.
... but the Lambo is a sportscar, not a massive SUV which logic dictates has room for 7!As for all of the people stating that the X6M is pointless, let me put it this way. If you could manufacture a product and sell it for a profit, would you do it, regardless of what a minority think? Also, how many sales of other M cars will BMW lose as a result of building the X6M. My guess is none.
Edited by VladD on Wednesday 23 December 15:46
Podie said:
Last Landie I was in had an extra row of seats and took 7 without issue...
Yes but the point was that an MPV would do it in better comfort for less money whilst using less fuel and driving better. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with owning an SUV for road use, but I think it's flawed to say it's OK to own a 7-seater SUV for road use but not a 4-seater one - there are other things that do both jobs better. kambites said:
Podie said:
Last Landie I was in had an extra row of seats and took 7 without issue...
Yes but the point was that an MPV would do it in better comfort for less money whilst using less fuel and driving better. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with owning an SUV for road use, but I think it's flawed to say it's OK to own a 7-seater SUV for road use but not a 4-seater one - there are other things that do both jobs better. Will it make it to the following threads in time to come?
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Edited by PPPPPP on Wednesday 23 December 16:26
Podie said:
kambites said:
Podie said:
Last Landie I was in had an extra row of seats and took 7 without issue...
Yes but the point was that an MPV would do it in better comfort for less money whilst using less fuel and driving better. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with owning an SUV for road use, but I think it's flawed to say it's OK to own a 7-seater SUV for road use but not a 4-seater one - there are other things that do both jobs better. For what it's worth, I think both are damned ugly, as are all other SUVs.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 23 December 16:35
My wife knows loads of milfy types who would love such a thing.
I have a default position in such matters but oddly, not today.
Tbh, I quite like the X6, in the way that one might prefer the sartorial tweaks of an SS Gruppenführer's jacket to that of his equivalent's trenchcoat in The Gestapo.
To wit, it's certainly effective at what it does but there's an antisocial side effect best left unrealised.
Back to the milfs and their vaccuous, lightly sautéd, himbo hubbies: yes, awful people.
Impatient, angry and aggressive with no fundamental wit or other, redeeming characteristics who probably utilise Wii technology - the cretins.
I've thought about this long, hard, good and proper and I'm with the trado purists - this is cock nobbling central, first tier and no matter how much fiddling a chap may do, he's got to be some kind of inveterate disciple of Pendle's Premium Pud Pulling Syndicate to have the brazen nuts implant to order up such a thing.
It's an affront; it's tragic and I f@cking weep at the significance of its birthing.
I have a default position in such matters but oddly, not today.
Tbh, I quite like the X6, in the way that one might prefer the sartorial tweaks of an SS Gruppenführer's jacket to that of his equivalent's trenchcoat in The Gestapo.
To wit, it's certainly effective at what it does but there's an antisocial side effect best left unrealised.
Back to the milfs and their vaccuous, lightly sautéd, himbo hubbies: yes, awful people.
Impatient, angry and aggressive with no fundamental wit or other, redeeming characteristics who probably utilise Wii technology - the cretins.
I've thought about this long, hard, good and proper and I'm with the trado purists - this is cock nobbling central, first tier and no matter how much fiddling a chap may do, he's got to be some kind of inveterate disciple of Pendle's Premium Pud Pulling Syndicate to have the brazen nuts implant to order up such a thing.
It's an affront; it's tragic and I f@cking weep at the significance of its birthing.
kambites said:
Podie said:
Last Landie I was in had an extra row of seats and took 7 without issue...
Yes but the point was that an MPV would do it in better comfort for less money whilst using less fuel and driving better. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with owning an SUV for road use, but I think it's flawed to say it's OK to own a 7-seater SUV for road use but not a 4-seater one - there are other things that do both jobs better. As for the X6M being a pointless car. WRONG... just because it isnt suited to the UK market doesn't make it pointless.
Sadly car makers don't make cars for 'just' the UK. You cant please all of the people all of the time.
not that i have that sort of money. but i think its downright ugly,
if i wanted a 4x4 i would buy a landrover, just think of what the pig s
t would do to that interior 
not that it will be capable of going off road.
im sure many will love it, but i think its truly awful
what it drives like is immaterial an m5 is always going to be better as is an m3,
the pikeys, footballers, and drug dealers will love it,
if i wanted a 4x4 i would buy a landrover, just think of what the pig s
t would do to that interior not that it will be capable of going off road.im sure many will love it, but i think its truly awful
what it drives like is immaterial an m5 is always going to be better as is an m3, the pikeys, footballers, and drug dealers will love it,
Zod said:
Deva Link said:
I think the X5 (and similar cars) have a place as, while it's not particularly good at any one thing it does pretty well everything you could ask of a car in one vehicle. They're family utility vehicles.
The X5 certainly has a place (but not in London). The X5 M and X6 M do not.The "M" versions are just a way of BMW taking more money off people who have got more than they know what to do with. Why not? They must make tremendous extra profit from the "M" add-ons which will cost BMW next to nothing extra per car.
Deva Link said:
I gather you need an SUV in London as the roads are crap. They also enable you to ingore speedbumps.
What if I work in London, spend half my time there, but also live outside London down a farm lane and tow a trailer from time to time....?Does that mean I am allowed to own a 4x4 like an X5? Or am I a drug/dealer/pimp/fool if I want to drive the car into london when I have a business meeting?
All the people who so persistently criticise 4x4's must surely have never owned one.
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toppstuff said:
Deva Link said:
I gather you need an SUV in London as the roads are crap. They also enable you to ingore speedbumps.
What if I work in London, spend half my time there, but also live outside London down a farm lane and tow a trailer from time to time....?Does that mean I am allowed to own a 4x4 like an X5? Or am I a drug/dealer/pimp/fool if I want to drive the car into london when I have a business meeting?
All the people who so persistently criticise 4x4's must surely have never owned one.
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I wasn't being sarcastic. Colleagues in "The South" tell me the roads are terrible.You know that feeling you get when you first sit in a new car, the one when you think 'oh this feels good' or 'no this isn't right', well, when I sat in the X5M and X6M I was underwhelmed. They don't feel special enough, not sufficiently different from their regular siblings. Normally an M feels 'better' somehow. So perhaps BMW are making loss leaders on purpose, filling yet another niche in their quest to produce every conceivable car we never knew we needed.
toppstuff said:
If someone wants a large 4x4, why not have a fast one?
Why is it that people expect that if someone wants a 4x4, it has to be a diesel defender or other "worthy" vehicle ?
I see no reason why someone can't want both a 4x4 and a fast car - so why not have both in the same vehicle?
Say I have a Scuderia or a GT3 in the garage, but in the weather we have now, I would take a 4x4 out to travel cross country or around the local lanes.
Where in the rules does it say that my 4x4 has to be some diesel tug-boat engined slug?
If I want a petrol engined 150mph 4x4, I will bloody well buy one.
People really, really don't get it.
I don't particularly care for it one way or the other, but it has no business being compared with a 2 wheel drive vehicle. Regardless of how capable it is as a 4x4, it is going to be far superior to a 2 wd vehicle on slippery roads. Where an M3 might have to sit out bad weather in the garage, this vehicle wouldn't.Why is it that people expect that if someone wants a 4x4, it has to be a diesel defender or other "worthy" vehicle ?
I see no reason why someone can't want both a 4x4 and a fast car - so why not have both in the same vehicle?
Say I have a Scuderia or a GT3 in the garage, but in the weather we have now, I would take a 4x4 out to travel cross country or around the local lanes.
Where in the rules does it say that my 4x4 has to be some diesel tug-boat engined slug?
If I want a petrol engined 150mph 4x4, I will bloody well buy one.
People really, really don't get it.
derestrictor said:
My wife knows loads of milfy types who would love such a thing.
I have a default position in such matters but oddly, not today.
Tbh, I quite like the X6, in the way that one might prefer the sartorial tweaks of an SS Gruppenführer's jacket to that of his equivalent's trenchcoat in The Gestapo.
To wit, it's certainly effective at what it does but there's an antisocial side effect best left unrealised.
Back to the milfs and their vaccuous, lightly sautéd, himbo hubbies: yes, awful people.
Impatient, angry and aggressive with no fundamental wit or other, redeeming characteristics who probably utilise Wii technology - the cretins.
I've thought about this long, hard, good and proper and I'm with the trado purists - this is cock nobbling central, first tier and no matter how much fiddling a chap may do, he's got to be some kind of inveterate disciple of Pendle's Premium Pud Pulling Syndicate to have the brazen nuts implant to order up such a thing.
It's an affront; it's tragic and I f@cking weep at the significance of its birthing.
I have a default position in such matters but oddly, not today.
Tbh, I quite like the X6, in the way that one might prefer the sartorial tweaks of an SS Gruppenführer's jacket to that of his equivalent's trenchcoat in The Gestapo.
To wit, it's certainly effective at what it does but there's an antisocial side effect best left unrealised.
Back to the milfs and their vaccuous, lightly sautéd, himbo hubbies: yes, awful people.
Impatient, angry and aggressive with no fundamental wit or other, redeeming characteristics who probably utilise Wii technology - the cretins.
I've thought about this long, hard, good and proper and I'm with the trado purists - this is cock nobbling central, first tier and no matter how much fiddling a chap may do, he's got to be some kind of inveterate disciple of Pendle's Premium Pud Pulling Syndicate to have the brazen nuts implant to order up such a thing.
It's an affront; it's tragic and I f@cking weep at the significance of its birthing.
That might just be my favourite post on PH in 2009!
I like the X6 but I'm not sure about this 'M'. 
I keep looking at alternative 4x4s to my P38 Range Rover, the Toureg V10 is silly cheap at the moment, the disco' just isn't quite right and the Range Rover sport...
But I keep coming back to the Range Rover, it's an amazing piece of kit, gentleman's club on wheels with all the capability to go anywhere. So why would you 'waste' so much money on the X6M?
As has been said before it does appear that MB and BMW are trying to create niche markets, to varying degrees of success.
So, whilst typing this I've been thinking would I buy the X6M, if I had the money, yes if it could tow my track car as effortlessly as my Rangie does, oh and it must be capable of running on LPG, the only viable way to run one of these laviathons without being a merchant banker - and I'm not that desperate.
I'm pleased BMW are making it, in the same way I was pleased that the HumVee was available to the public, or that the LM002 ever existed, we need extremes in everything in order to measure what goes between them.
Happy Christmas People.
Tim
I keep looking at alternative 4x4s to my P38 Range Rover, the Toureg V10 is silly cheap at the moment, the disco' just isn't quite right and the Range Rover sport...
But I keep coming back to the Range Rover, it's an amazing piece of kit, gentleman's club on wheels with all the capability to go anywhere. So why would you 'waste' so much money on the X6M?As has been said before it does appear that MB and BMW are trying to create niche markets, to varying degrees of success.
So, whilst typing this I've been thinking would I buy the X6M, if I had the money, yes if it could tow my track car as effortlessly as my Rangie does, oh and it must be capable of running on LPG, the only viable way to run one of these laviathons without being a merchant banker - and I'm not that desperate.
I'm pleased BMW are making it, in the same way I was pleased that the HumVee was available to the public, or that the LM002 ever existed, we need extremes in everything in order to measure what goes between them.
Happy Christmas People.
Tim
braddo said:
derestrictor said:
My wife knows loads of milfy types who would love such a thing.
I have a default position in such matters but oddly, not today.
Tbh, I quite like the X6, in the way that one might prefer the sartorial tweaks of an SS Gruppenführer's jacket to that of his equivalent's trenchcoat in The Gestapo.
To wit, it's certainly effective at what it does but there's an antisocial side effect best left unrealised.
Back to the milfs and their vaccuous, lightly sautéd, himbo hubbies: yes, awful people.
Impatient, angry and aggressive with no fundamental wit or other, redeeming characteristics who probably utilise Wii technology - the cretins.
I've thought about this long, hard, good and proper and I'm with the trado purists - this is cock nobbling central, first tier and no matter how much fiddling a chap may do, he's got to be some kind of inveterate disciple of Pendle's Premium Pud Pulling Syndicate to have the brazen nuts implant to order up such a thing.
It's an affront; it's tragic and I f@cking weep at the significance of its birthing.
I have a default position in such matters but oddly, not today.
Tbh, I quite like the X6, in the way that one might prefer the sartorial tweaks of an SS Gruppenführer's jacket to that of his equivalent's trenchcoat in The Gestapo.
To wit, it's certainly effective at what it does but there's an antisocial side effect best left unrealised.
Back to the milfs and their vaccuous, lightly sautéd, himbo hubbies: yes, awful people.
Impatient, angry and aggressive with no fundamental wit or other, redeeming characteristics who probably utilise Wii technology - the cretins.
I've thought about this long, hard, good and proper and I'm with the trado purists - this is cock nobbling central, first tier and no matter how much fiddling a chap may do, he's got to be some kind of inveterate disciple of Pendle's Premium Pud Pulling Syndicate to have the brazen nuts implant to order up such a thing.
It's an affront; it's tragic and I f@cking weep at the significance of its birthing.
That might just be my favourite post on PH in 2009!
My feeling is that it is the M-badge that seems to offend most people about the X5M and the X6M.
Had BMW continued the 'is' moniker, as used on the X5 4.6is and X5 4.8is, I can imagine these cars getting cracking reviews.
For someone who wants a comfortable long distance, all weather (read 4WD), vehicle with the added benefit of a high driving position, I believe this vehicle ticks all the boxes. The X6M makes as much sense to me as an RS4 or RS6 and is on a par with the Cayenne Turbo and ML63. As for it being only 4-seats, have any of the moaners actually tried to fit 3 adults across the back seat of a performance sedan or SUV? Unless 2 out of the 3 are waif models, it isn't a comfortable experience; therefore, 2 seats in the rear will never be an issue for me.
I like it.
Had BMW continued the 'is' moniker, as used on the X5 4.6is and X5 4.8is, I can imagine these cars getting cracking reviews.
For someone who wants a comfortable long distance, all weather (read 4WD), vehicle with the added benefit of a high driving position, I believe this vehicle ticks all the boxes. The X6M makes as much sense to me as an RS4 or RS6 and is on a par with the Cayenne Turbo and ML63. As for it being only 4-seats, have any of the moaners actually tried to fit 3 adults across the back seat of a performance sedan or SUV? Unless 2 out of the 3 are waif models, it isn't a comfortable experience; therefore, 2 seats in the rear will never be an issue for me.
I like it.
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