RE: Mercedes G Wagen To Return With RHD

[Modificata]

alfaman said:

I quite like the G-Wagon's ...

recently had a lift from one by a very nice chap when my car got stranded in the snow , it was a RHD 5L V8 - apparently only a very few made in the early 90's ... was really solidly built and tank like - the doors are *massive* .

I would have one ..not sure what the petrol bill would be in a 5L v8 ?!

That wasnt that nutter Joe was it? He seemed to make it a personal mission to pull people out of the snow!

[Garlick]

sleep envy said:

Garlick said:

I've always wanted one of these, and now I am working out how to get one.

Oh dear.........

excellent, I'll collect it off you around Sept/Oct this year

good good

Well at the moment I am many tens of thousands short.

[sleep envy]

details, mere details

[gumsie]

torchy6 said:

gumsie said:

torchy6 said:

For that wedge the Rangie is infinitely better. It does look like an up market Defender and that is no recommendation, unless you farm in Welsh Wales that is!

Infinitely better where? I'll bet you this thing is pretty tough to beat in the terrain it was intended for. Even by todays latest releases.

In all departments I would say including price. The G Wagen is old narrow and high, it's powerful all right, which means more juice and higher running costs, but too tall to handle like a Range Rover, and vintage axle locks (prone to sticking I read) are hardly the most efficient modern off road device. In a comparison test it came last when pitted against the Toureg, X5 and Cayenne and yet was the most expensive. If you want an old fashioned icon, then yes, and if the resale values are to believed then they cost nothing to run but I seriously doubt second hand 2010 models will be selling for 130k in 2012.

I would say you are sadly mistaken. Price, interior, exterior, road manners to name a few they may well get beaten, but be assured when the going gets really tough they'll be up there at the top, (they may even be towing the others back to safety). Though with the computer controlled systems available today it means that a few of the drivers may not know how to handle the G to get the best out of it. But that does not diminish its abilities, it just shows up their dis-abilities.

I must confess though I do already see a counter argument - What good is a vehicle that can do a few tricks if nobody knows to to get it to do them.

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gumsie said:

I must confess though I do already see a counter argument - What good is a vehicle that can do a few tricks if nobody knows to to get it to do them.

Totally disagree. I recently took my G off-roading for the first time and was amazed at how it just chewed up the hills. I went with a group who told me the basics like stick it in low gear, and how to put the diff locks on, bu that was it. After that my car just got me through whatever the terrain was.

There are no special tricks as such. Its just the ability of the car to deal with the terrain. You can stick a monkey in a G or a lesser 4x4, but if he cant drive off-road then it doesnt matter which piece of kit he has.

[torchy6]

Well Gumsie, the test included off road which showed up the lack of ground clearance in the G when the modern cars could raise the suspension. I can see where the G aficionados are coming from and if you want a vintage icon fine, just don't try to prove it is still the best (if it ever was!) it is merely the most expensive.

gumsie said:

torchy6 said:

gumsie said:

torchy6 said:

For that wedge the Rangie is infinitely better. It does look like an up market Defender and that is no recommendation, unless you farm in Welsh Wales that is!

Infinitely better where? I'll bet you this thing is pretty tough to beat in the terrain it was intended for. Even by todays latest releases.

In all departments I would say including price. The G Wagen is old narrow and high, it's powerful all right, which means more juice and higher running costs, but too tall to handle like a Range Rover, and vintage axle locks (prone to sticking I read) are hardly the most efficient modern off road device. In a comparison test it came last when pitted against the Toureg, X5 and Cayenne and yet was the most expensive. If you want an old fashioned icon, then yes, and if the resale values are to believed then they cost nothing to run but I seriously doubt second hand 2010 models will be selling for 130k in 2012.

I would say you are sadly mistaken. Price, interior, exterior, road manners to name a few they may well get beaten, but be assured when the going gets really tough they'll be up there at the top, (they may even be towing the others back to safety). Though with the computer controlled systems available today it means that a few of the drivers may not know how to handle the G to get the best out of it. But that does not diminish its abilities, it just shows up their dis-abilities.

I must confess though I do already see a counter argument - What good is a vehicle that can do a few tricks if nobody knows to to get it to do them.

[Schermerhorn]

bump

[AUDIHenry]

Fantastic cars, but the V8 N/A is slow as hell, in fact, slower than my Civic. Of course, it weighs 2x as much and is not meant to be speedy, but it is a little frustrating in traffic/merging/passing situations.

[Schermerhorn]

Mercedes G500 road test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9YqQcjPAFM

[Garlick]

Schermerhorn said:

bump

Why?

[hairyben]

gumsie said:

torchy6 said:

gumsie said:

torchy6 said:

For that wedge the Rangie is infinitely better. It does look like an up market Defender and that is no recommendation, unless you farm in Welsh Wales that is!

Infinitely better where? I'll bet you this thing is pretty tough to beat in the terrain it was intended for. Even by todays latest releases.

In all departments I would say including price. The G Wagen is old narrow and high, it's powerful all right, which means more juice and higher running costs, but too tall to handle like a Range Rover, and vintage axle locks (prone to sticking I read) are hardly the most efficient modern off road device. In a comparison test it came last when pitted against the Toureg, X5 and Cayenne and yet was the most expensive. If you want an old fashioned icon, then yes, and if the resale values are to believed then they cost nothing to run but I seriously doubt second hand 2010 models will be selling for 130k in 2012.

I would say you are sadly mistaken. Price, interior, exterior, road manners to name a few they may well get beaten, but be assured when the going gets really tough they'll be up there at the top, (they may even be towing the others back to safety). Though with the computer controlled systems available today it means that a few of the drivers may not know how to handle the G to get the best out of it. But that does not diminish its abilities, it just shows up their dis-abilities.

I must confess though I do already see a counter argument - What good is a vehicle that can do a few tricks if nobody knows to to get it to do them.

I daresay for a G to lose out to a towrag, X5 and clog-911 that the test never went near so much as a muddy field, in truth it undoutedly IS the worst car of the group, for orange women to take their kids to their posh school in.

I'm having some difficulty taking the dakar seriously any more, yeah I know were talking highly modded machines with little more to do with the roadgoer than a renault F1 has to a clio, but watching VW's pretendy offroader themed entry vs BMW's pretendy offroader themed entry fight for rights to the claim of ultimate offroad machine... is kinda ironic given they're two of the last vehicles you'd choose to go off-roading. Little willy syndrome or something.

[superlightr]

So which is 'Better'?

A Defender or a G Wagon?

Better off road?
Better on road?
Better value?
Better looks?
More reliable?
More smiles?
Better?


I will stick my limited oar in by saying that Ive never been in aa G wagon but have owned a G4 defender which was great off road, lots of smiles, ok on road, good value, totally reliable, a few water leaks...

Edited by superlightr on Thursday 21st January 20:58

Edited by superlightr on Thursday 21st January 21:00

[Schermerhorn]

Garlick said:

Schermerhorn said:

bump

Why?

Because it's a rare, fantastic car that is so wonderfully over-engineered that it's worth commenting on.

Weren't you the one who said the M class was more desirable than the G-wagen?

[AUDIHenry]

superlightr said:

So which is 'Better'?

A Defender or a G Wagon?

Better off road?
Better on road?
Better value?
Better looks?
More reliable?
More smiles?
Better?


I will stick my limited oar in by saying that Ive never been in aa G wagon but have owned a G4 defender which was great off road, lots of smiles, ok on road, good value, totally reliable, a few water leaks...

Edited by superlightr on Thursday 21st January 20:58

Edited by superlightr on Thursday 21st January 21:00

The thing is that a GWagen is a MUCH nicer place to be ON the road, but it is also capable OFF the road. A Defender is good off the road, but on the road it is nowhere near as civilized, luxurious, or has anywhere near the amenities. Also, the build quality is fantastic, and also wins in the look department for me.

Its real downside is the price, but you can have a second hand one (6 years old or so) for about 15K pounds, which is not bad at all.

[AUDIHenry]

Here's an older German vs. an older Brit. The Brit is falling apart by the time it barely makes it through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pp439J8dFQ

[RV8]

There is no denying that vid shows a poor driver in a defender and a reasonable driver in a G, just like 90% of other 'Versus' vids on youtube it doesn't convince anyone of anything really.

[AUDIHenry]

RV8 said:

There is no denying that vid shows a poor driver in a defender and a reasonable driver in a G, just like 90% of other 'Versus' vids on youtube it doesn't convince anyone of anything really.

Denial is a river in Egypt...

[I WISH]

HOW MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????????????

Edited by I WISH on Sunday 24th January 00:53