Ferrari 456 - - - would you?
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AndrewW-G said:
LHD said:
You can't really view a Ferrari as an everyday car.
The stupid cambelt intervals see to that.
But, as the good Dr has said, you look a prize dick driving one in the UK.
?The stupid cambelt intervals see to that.
But, as the good Dr has said, you look a prize dick driving one in the UK.
Every 3-5 years (F-UK listed as 3, FNA 5) is the same sort of interval most people set and given the position of the belts on a 456, not much of an issue to change.
Yes some parts are huge money to buy new from Ferrari, no doubt at least part of the reason why they were so expensive when new
So if you used the car every day you could be doing the belts once a year.
Then that would be mental.
From experience in looking after the servicing and bills of the old man's 550's, I would budget at least 2-3 grand a year for a decent specialist assuming nothing major goes wrong.....
If it does then parts prices can be nothing short of comical, and not just the major parts. A steering rack let go a while back which was about 4 grand, but amazingly one of the minor hydraulic pipes leading to the rack was about 800 quid!
You generally have to be quite careful who you go to, but from experience I'd avoid official dealers. They all have a tendency to make things sound a lot more complicated and difficult to fix than they are (and charge accordingly), and considering most owners don't have a clue they must make a mint.
If you can afford it and you accept the fact that (despite being beautiful and fantastic to drive) they're equivalent to being metal bodied TVR's with italian electrics and marked up parts prices, then the experience wont be a ruinous disappointment.
If it does then parts prices can be nothing short of comical, and not just the major parts. A steering rack let go a while back which was about 4 grand, but amazingly one of the minor hydraulic pipes leading to the rack was about 800 quid!
You generally have to be quite careful who you go to, but from experience I'd avoid official dealers. They all have a tendency to make things sound a lot more complicated and difficult to fix than they are (and charge accordingly), and considering most owners don't have a clue they must make a mint.
If you can afford it and you accept the fact that (despite being beautiful and fantastic to drive) they're equivalent to being metal bodied TVR's with italian electrics and marked up parts prices, then the experience wont be a ruinous disappointment.
LHD said:
AndrewW-G said:
LHD said:
You can't really view a Ferrari as an everyday car.
The stupid cambelt intervals see to that.
But, as the good Dr has said, you look a prize dick driving one in the UK.
?The stupid cambelt intervals see to that.
But, as the good Dr has said, you look a prize dick driving one in the UK.
Every 3-5 years (F-UK listed as 3, FNA 5) is the same sort of interval most people set and given the position of the belts on a 456, not much of an issue to change.
Yes some parts are huge money to buy new from Ferrari, no doubt at least part of the reason why they were so expensive when new
So if you used the car every day you could be doing the belts once a year.
Then that would be mental.
LHD said:
AndrewW-G said:
LHD said:
You can't really view a Ferrari as an everyday car.
The stupid cambelt intervals see to that.
But, as the good Dr has said, you look a prize dick driving one in the UK.
?The stupid cambelt intervals see to that.
But, as the good Dr has said, you look a prize dick driving one in the UK.
Every 3-5 years (F-UK listed as 3, FNA 5) is the same sort of interval most people set and given the position of the belts on a 456, not much of an issue to change.
Yes some parts are huge money to buy new from Ferrari, no doubt at least part of the reason why they were so expensive when new
So if you used the car every day you could be doing the belts once a year.
Then that would be mental.
Worth noting that Ferrari North America's TSB on cambelts list the 456 as every 5 years or 50,000 miles, that would no doubt raise a few eyebrows from "educated" buyers
ProfessorPeach said:
RobM77 said:
Plus the fact that it would be almost impossible to sell the car on with a high mileage. Ferraris are sadly one of the most mileage dependent cars on the secondhand market.
That's an interesting point.I wonder what is the highest mileage Ferrari ever, or currently.
derin100 said:
Nano2nd said:
derin100 said:
I've always really liked the look of those cars but those running costs are just simple extortion!
I've just looked at that very helpful and enlightening summary over 103 months of ownership but only 17K miles i.e £36000 or £2.10/mile.
Let's have a reality check here for a sec:
I don't know what everyone else's income is here?...Maybe everyone is mega-rich? I wouldn't class myself as such but I earn (without wishing to go into specifics) a six figure sum annually and the first figure isn't a "1" and I don't have a mortgage.
For me to drive to work and back, for example (actually on roads where such a car could be enjoyed!), is a mere 10 miles and takes less than 15 mins each way. That half hour round trip is apparently going to cost me £42...each time?!
Sorry...but on my meagre earnings...that's just way too much!
So in answer to the OP: "Would I?"
"Not without a huge increase in my income!"
i'm sorry, i've read that 3 times (yes i've had wine) but your saying you earn over £200,000 a year with no mortgage, yes? and your worried about it costing you just over 10k a year to get to work and back in a Ferrari! what kind of PH'er are you?I've just looked at that very helpful and enlightening summary over 103 months of ownership but only 17K miles i.e £36000 or £2.10/mile.
Let's have a reality check here for a sec:
I don't know what everyone else's income is here?...Maybe everyone is mega-rich? I wouldn't class myself as such but I earn (without wishing to go into specifics) a six figure sum annually and the first figure isn't a "1" and I don't have a mortgage.
For me to drive to work and back, for example (actually on roads where such a car could be enjoyed!), is a mere 10 miles and takes less than 15 mins each way. That half hour round trip is apparently going to cost me £42...each time?!
Sorry...but on my meagre earnings...that's just way too much!
So in answer to the OP: "Would I?"
"Not without a huge increase in my income!"
Edited by derin100 on Sunday 24th January 21:00
LOL my salary doesn't even take me into the 40% tax bracket and my daily commute has cost me inc the depreciation over 15K in 18 months! and i DO have a mortgage to pay...
no offense but are u saving for the biggest headstone in the graveyard?
My take on this is (i.e work, payment etc) is thus...and ironically this was said to me many, many years ago by the father of a friend of mine who owned two brand new Ferraris(308 GTB and 308 GTS...when they were new) and it has stuck with me as a truism ever since:
"Work...is something we do in this society because we all have to do it to survive. It's something inherently we don't want to do. Instinctively, we'd rather be sitting on a beach in the Caribbean with a case of Red Stripe next to us doing nothing.
So, in order for us to 'work' we need to be paid. Payment is essentially 'compensation' for doing something we don't really want to be doing in the first place."
Once we understand that and excepting either a few really lucky people who absolutely LOVE their jobs or saddos who have such narrow horizons that they genuinely can't think of anything more satisfying than working then we're left with the vast majority of us,normal people who would rather be (figuratively): "Sitting on a beach with a case of Red Stripe" than working?
As I wish to achieve that position sooner rather than later...and not have to work and thus be compensated for doing something with my TIME (which I regard as the most precious commodity we have)I would rather not waste the sweat of my brow being ripped off by ridiculous 'fantasies' sold to me by FIAT dealers and their Kling-ons who wish to take £3000 (after tax i.e nearly £6000) for 4 shock absorbers etc on one of their cars in under 30K miles....for example!
I don't want to be working forever...and I certainly don't want to be working to pay FIAT £2.10/mile.
What kind of PH'er am I? Well, look here:
www.bmwclassics.co.uk
(p.s The "Gallery" is the best place to look)
Cheers...don't worry...I've had wine too!
Edited by derin100 on Sunday 24th January 23:50
Edited by derin100 on Sunday 24th January 23:51
jshell said:
AndrewW-G said:
Plenty of Ferraris out there that have done well over 100k......................although the clocks may say something different
I think this is true...going by the loads of threads on other forums about it. Cottage industry!Put it this way:
I probably rank alongside Norfolk for wasting money on metal (esp Italian) in stupid fashion.
Loon and I are pretty much the founder members of the "Oh look 456s are at £30k, I wonder..." society.
None of us have bought one yet.
This should tell you:
A) Just how expensive it will probably be to run one
B) Just how stupid you would have to be
Dont say you werent warned! Even Nerv hasnt bought one!
I probably rank alongside Norfolk for wasting money on metal (esp Italian) in stupid fashion.
Loon and I are pretty much the founder members of the "Oh look 456s are at £30k, I wonder..." society.
None of us have bought one yet.
This should tell you:
A) Just how expensive it will probably be to run one
B) Just how stupid you would have to be
Dont say you werent warned! Even Nerv hasnt bought one!
reg_slr said:
jshell said:
AndrewW-G said:
Plenty of Ferraris out there that have done well over 100k......................although the clocks may say something different
I think this is true...going by the loads of threads on other forums about it. Cottage industry!Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff