RE: R8 Spyder To Cost £112k
Discussion
UH-Matt said:
Drove an r8 (hard top) today and was rather underwhelmed, felt far too refined and quiet.... I would pay extra for a more raw experience, hence the r8 is not for me, nice looking car though.
I've driven the R8 coupe and found it to be a fantastic piece of kit. Very comfy well put together etc but as you say not really raw and i think part of that is that it isnt particularly loud there's very little noise when pressing on. However that can be rectified with an aftermarket exhaust.The R8 is an odd car it seems to sit in its very own little niche as its cheaper than any fezza or lambo but is easily capable of competing with them on the road or track but is designed to be easier to live with than the 430 and gallardo in terms of ride comfort,running costs and reliability.
Given a choice between a 430 and the R8 V10 without doubt i would take the R8 as its rarer and built in limited numbers which to me is important.
Given the choice between gallardo and R8 its a bit more difficult as both are fantastic looking cars but one is loud and raw and the other is not so depends what you would want in the car.
steelej said:
Streetrod said:
John, I respect your opinion but would like to take you up on a couple of points.
First off you compare the price of a new R8 with a second hand Lambo or Ferrari, why? Why not compare with the new prices? If we all did that you could compare anything which makes no sense.
Remember that the Gallardo which is essentially an R8 underneath will cost you £60K more. And to imply that to buy the Audi over a Lambo or a Ferrari should get you banned is arrogance in the extreme.
Some of use do not want to own a current Lambo or a Ferrari as we prefer the looks and the way the R8 drives over these two alternatives. I also found in a back to back comparison that the R8 to be quicker from point A to B on the road .
Is the Spyder worth £111k? The answer would have to be yes considering how many have been preordered.
From my point of view a Lambo or Ferrari would be the predictable choice, I feel the R8 is the better choice
Hi Streetrod,First off you compare the price of a new R8 with a second hand Lambo or Ferrari, why? Why not compare with the new prices? If we all did that you could compare anything which makes no sense.
Remember that the Gallardo which is essentially an R8 underneath will cost you £60K more. And to imply that to buy the Audi over a Lambo or a Ferrari should get you banned is arrogance in the extreme.
Some of use do not want to own a current Lambo or a Ferrari as we prefer the looks and the way the R8 drives over these two alternatives. I also found in a back to back comparison that the R8 to be quicker from point A to B on the road .
Is the Spyder worth £111k? The answer would have to be yes considering how many have been preordered.
From my point of view a Lambo or Ferrari would be the predictable choice, I feel the R8 is the better choice
Te R8 isn't a Gallardo though no matter what people say is underneath, and when I'm comparing new to used prices it is relevant due to the fact that for 112k it opens up a whole world of other possibilities in very high end marques, an almost new(09)low miles 430 Spider can be had for 119k, obviously older is cheaper. I know what I'd rather have.
My comment about being banned was a joke, hence the smilie after the comment
From what I'm hearing here people are saying the Audi Brand is as prestigious as Ferrari, Lambo or Aston and commands a price point to suit, I do not believe that is the case. If this car was 80k it would be a great price point, at 112k it's just too much. When most people do look at the option of new Audi or lightly used Ferrari/Lambo/Aston most will go for the latter, not all but most.
John.
Edited by steelej on Monday 25th January 17:36
i do however agree that it's more than badge snobbery that would make someone choose a premium brand car over a hot Audi. as good technically as the Audi is and i'd love one (cant afford one) i'd love a year old Ferarri/ Lambo etc even more.
steelej said:
Streetrod said:
John, I respect your opinion but would like to take you up on a couple of points.
First off you compare the price of a new R8 with a second hand Lambo or Ferrari, why? Why not compare with the new prices? If we all did that you could compare anything which makes no sense.
Remember that the Gallardo which is essentially an R8 underneath will cost you £60K more. And to imply that to buy the Audi over a Lambo or a Ferrari should get you banned is arrogance in the extreme.
Some of use do not want to own a current Lambo or a Ferrari as we prefer the looks and the way the R8 drives over these two alternatives. I also found in a back to back comparison that the R8 to be quicker from point A to B on the road .
Is the Spyder worth £111k? The answer would have to be yes considering how many have been preordered.
From my point of view a Lambo or Ferrari would be the predictable choice, I feel the R8 is the better choice
Hi Streetrod,First off you compare the price of a new R8 with a second hand Lambo or Ferrari, why? Why not compare with the new prices? If we all did that you could compare anything which makes no sense.
Remember that the Gallardo which is essentially an R8 underneath will cost you £60K more. And to imply that to buy the Audi over a Lambo or a Ferrari should get you banned is arrogance in the extreme.
Some of use do not want to own a current Lambo or a Ferrari as we prefer the looks and the way the R8 drives over these two alternatives. I also found in a back to back comparison that the R8 to be quicker from point A to B on the road .
Is the Spyder worth £111k? The answer would have to be yes considering how many have been preordered.
From my point of view a Lambo or Ferrari would be the predictable choice, I feel the R8 is the better choice
Te R8 isn't a Gallardo though no matter what people say is underneath, and when I'm comparing new to used prices it is relevant due to the fact that for 112k it opens up a whole world of other possibilities in very high end marques, an almost new(09)low miles 430 Spider can be had for 119k, obviously older is cheaper. I know what I'd rather have.
My comment about being banned was a joke, hence the smilie after the comment
From what I'm hearing here people are saying the Audi Brand is as prestigious as Ferrari, Lambo or Aston and commands a price point to suit, I do not believe that is the case. If this car was 80k it would be a great price point, at 112k it's just too much. When most people do look at the option of new Audi or lightly used Ferrari/Lambo/Aston most will go for the latter, not all but most.
John.
Edited by steelej on Monday 25th January 17:36
They also use the same suspension set up except the R8 has Magnetic dampers. The wiring loom is the same as are most of the electrical components. The list goes on and on. If you crawl around under an R8 and a Gallardo as I have done you will be amazed at how many components are labelled as above and are interchangeable. The only difference is that Lambo will charge you more for the same part.
As for your comment, "When most people do look at the option of new Audi or lightly used Ferrari/Lambo/Aston most will go for the latter", That is simply not true, if that was the case Audi would hardly have sold any.
I think the R8 sells to a slightly different customer, I suspect older and a little less flash, but I could be wrong
steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?
John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....John.
Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.
I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.
Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12
Streetrod said:
steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?
John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....John.
Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.
I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.
Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12
thewheelman said:
Streetrod said:
steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?
John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....John.
Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.
I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.
Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12
Streetrod said:
steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?
John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....John.
Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.
I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.
Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12
http://ak4-uk.audi.co.uk/controller?next=summary-p...
Now lets see you spec up a gallardo to the same level for a similar price?
Best i could find was an american website where i specced up a gallardo coupe (not the spyder which carries a premium) to as close as possible spec to the R8 and once converted comes in at £146,643 assume a premium of upto 10k for conv so £156,643 and we know they are actually more than that in fact £160k roughly i believe.
Streetrod said:
thewheelman said:
Streetrod said:
steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?
John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....John.
Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.
I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.
Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12
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