RE: R8 Spyder To Cost £112k

RE: R8 Spyder To Cost £112k

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torchy6

133 posts

173 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I do not like the huge black vents front and rear on the coupe and on the convertible they look worse, but on the black coverable with the roof up they vanish and the car looks superb biggrin

thewheelman

2,194 posts

174 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I prefer the styling without the carbon panels,if only they'd do that to the hard top. Still having driven R8's in the past my money would go elsewhere.

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

217 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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UH-Matt said:
Drove an r8 (hard top) today and was rather underwhelmed, felt far too refined and quiet.... I would pay extra for a more raw experience, hence the r8 is not for me, nice looking car though.
I've driven the R8 coupe and found it to be a fantastic piece of kit. Very comfy well put together etc but as you say not really raw and i think part of that is that it isnt particularly loud there's very little noise when pressing on. However that can be rectified with an aftermarket exhaust.

The R8 is an odd car it seems to sit in its very own little niche as its cheaper than any fezza or lambo but is easily capable of competing with them on the road or track but is designed to be easier to live with than the 430 and gallardo in terms of ride comfort,running costs and reliability.

Given a choice between a 430 and the R8 V10 without doubt i would take the R8 as its rarer and built in limited numbers which to me is important.
Given the choice between gallardo and R8 its a bit more difficult as both are fantastic looking cars but one is loud and raw and the other is not so depends what you would want in the car.

chr15b

3,467 posts

191 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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leon9191 said:
okgo said:
steelej said:
But 112 grand for an Audi, holy crap!

John.
Who cares what badge it wears.
The people who buy them.
i'd have said more the people who look at them

chr15b

3,467 posts

191 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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steelej said:
Streetrod said:
John, I respect your opinion but would like to take you up on a couple of points.

First off you compare the price of a new R8 with a second hand Lambo or Ferrari, why? Why not compare with the new prices? If we all did that you could compare anything which makes no sense.

Remember that the Gallardo which is essentially an R8 underneath will cost you £60K more. And to imply that to buy the Audi over a Lambo or a Ferrari should get you banned is arrogance in the extreme.

Some of use do not want to own a current Lambo or a Ferrari as we prefer the looks and the way the R8 drives over these two alternatives. I also found in a back to back comparison that the R8 to be quicker from point A to B on the road .

Is the Spyder worth £111k? The answer would have to be yes considering how many have been preordered.

From my point of view a Lambo or Ferrari would be the predictable choice, I feel the R8 is the better choice
Hi Streetrod,

Te R8 isn't a Gallardo though no matter what people say is underneath, and when I'm comparing new to used prices it is relevant due to the fact that for 112k it opens up a whole world of other possibilities in very high end marques, an almost new(09)low miles 430 Spider can be had for 119k, obviously older is cheaper. I know what I'd rather have.

My comment about being banned was a joke, hence the smilie after the comment smile

From what I'm hearing here people are saying the Audi Brand is as prestigious as Ferrari, Lambo or Aston and commands a price point to suit, I do not believe that is the case. If this car was 80k it would be a great price point, at 112k it's just too much. When most people do look at the option of new Audi or lightly used Ferrari/Lambo/Aston most will go for the latter, not all but most.

John.

Edited by steelej on Monday 25th January 17:36
sorry i dont agree, for a start, if nobody bought new cars there would not be any 'cheaper' used ones. and then when we're talking a lightly used Ferarri/Lambo etc well we could use the same with the R8 this time next year will be in new Porsche / RSx Audi / M3 bmw etc terratory.

i do however agree that it's more than badge snobbery that would make someone choose a premium brand car over a hot Audi. as good technically as the Audi is and i'd love one (cant afford one) i'd love a year old Ferarri/ Lambo etc even more.

steelej

1,761 posts

208 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?

John.

Beirut Taxi

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6,631 posts

215 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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big dub said:
Beirut Taxi said:
Any pics of it from the back?
Ohhh... They've got that very very right.

That looks stunning!


Streetrod

6,468 posts

207 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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steelej said:
Streetrod said:
John, I respect your opinion but would like to take you up on a couple of points.

First off you compare the price of a new R8 with a second hand Lambo or Ferrari, why? Why not compare with the new prices? If we all did that you could compare anything which makes no sense.

Remember that the Gallardo which is essentially an R8 underneath will cost you £60K more. And to imply that to buy the Audi over a Lambo or a Ferrari should get you banned is arrogance in the extreme.

Some of use do not want to own a current Lambo or a Ferrari as we prefer the looks and the way the R8 drives over these two alternatives. I also found in a back to back comparison that the R8 to be quicker from point A to B on the road .

Is the Spyder worth £111k? The answer would have to be yes considering how many have been preordered.

From my point of view a Lambo or Ferrari would be the predictable choice, I feel the R8 is the better choice
Hi Streetrod,

Te R8 isn't a Gallardo though no matter what people say is underneath, and when I'm comparing new to used prices it is relevant due to the fact that for 112k it opens up a whole world of other possibilities in very high end marques, an almost new(09)low miles 430 Spider can be had for 119k, obviously older is cheaper. I know what I'd rather have.

My comment about being banned was a joke, hence the smilie after the comment smile

From what I'm hearing here people are saying the Audi Brand is as prestigious as Ferrari, Lambo or Aston and commands a price point to suit, I do not believe that is the case. If this car was 80k it would be a great price point, at 112k it's just too much. When most people do look at the option of new Audi or lightly used Ferrari/Lambo/Aston most will go for the latter, not all but most.

John.

Edited by steelej on Monday 25th January 17:36
John, sorry to disagree with you but just to prove my point have a look at this. The engine and gearbox of a Gallardo and an R8 V10 are the same; the only difference is the induction and exhaust system:





They also use the same suspension set up except the R8 has Magnetic dampers. The wiring loom is the same as are most of the electrical components. The list goes on and on. If you crawl around under an R8 and a Gallardo as I have done you will be amazed at how many components are labelled as above and are interchangeable. The only difference is that Lambo will charge you more for the same part.rolleyes

As for your comment, "When most people do look at the option of new Audi or lightly used Ferrari/Lambo/Aston most will go for the latter", That is simply not true, if that was the case Audi would hardly have sold any.

I think the R8 sells to a slightly different customer, I suspect older and a little less flash, but I could be wrong

Buzzkill

786 posts

185 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?

John.
What new car are you comparing the cost with?

Streetrod

6,468 posts

207 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?

John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....

Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.

I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.


Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12

LukeBird

17,170 posts

210 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Like the look of that! thumbup

thewheelman

2,194 posts

174 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Streetrod said:
steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?

John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....

Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.

I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.


Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12
As for fitting in the Lambo,adjust the seat,i'm 6'3" & well built & fit in just fine. Fatty Clarkson had a white one & fitted his 6'5" frame in.

Streetrod

6,468 posts

207 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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thewheelman said:
Streetrod said:
steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?

John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....

Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.

I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.


Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12
As for fitting in the Lambo,adjust the seat,i'm 6'3" & well built & fit in just fine. Fatty Clarkson had a white one & fitted his 6'5" frame in.
I tried, I had the seat back as far and as low as I could, even the dealer fiddled with it but my head still touched the roof. In the coupe it was better, but that did not cure the offset peddles

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

217 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Streetrod said:
steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?

John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....

Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.

I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.


Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12
Quite. I just went on and specced one with most options ticked inc ceramic brakes,,carbon pretty much everything, homelink, parking plus with rear camera etc and it only comes to £124,500

http://ak4-uk.audi.co.uk/controller?next=summary-p...

Now lets see you spec up a gallardo to the same level for a similar price?

Best i could find was an american website where i specced up a gallardo coupe (not the spyder which carries a premium) to as close as possible spec to the R8 and once converted comes in at £146,643 assume a premium of upto 10k for conv so £156,643 and we know they are actually more than that in fact £160k roughly i believe.

thewheelman

2,194 posts

174 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Streetrod said:
thewheelman said:
Streetrod said:
steelej said:
I just went onto the audi website and spec'd up an R8 Spyder, threw in a bit of Carbon Fibre and added Carbon Ceramic brakes(standard on all Ferrari's since 2008) and it came to £128,290. Still seem like good value?

John.
John, please compare like for like, spec up a Gallardo Spyder to the same level then try and tell me its not good value by comparison....

Oh and by the way, at 6ft 2in, which is not that tall I can’t drive a Lambo Spyder without my head wedged up against the roof. Also the peddle offset makes it very uncomfortable after an hour or so, no such problem in the R8.

I don’t hate the Lambo or the 360/430, they are great cars. I just prefer the R8; to me it’s a better package.


Edited by Streetrod on Monday 25th January 19:12
As for fitting in the Lambo,adjust the seat,i'm 6'3" & well built & fit in just fine. Fatty Clarkson had a white one & fitted his 6'5" frame in.
I tried, I had the seat back as far and as low as I could, even the dealer fiddled with it but my head still touched the roof. In the coupe it was better, but that did not cure the offset peddles
Fair point,it's the coupe i've driven myself,but like yourself i also found the peddles to be a little awkward. I'd say the R8 remains the better of the two value for money.

Daniel1

2,931 posts

199 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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i dont know if it has been mentioned, but just to point out the R8 in both guises fits neatly into the product portfolio of VAG.


turbo-ww

1,766 posts

217 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Both/All very nice but I do miss the USP from the coupe - The sideblades...

chr15b

3,467 posts

191 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I'm 6ft 7 and like most people I can fit in anything I want to smile

mel

10,168 posts

276 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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I'm more concerned by the fact that Pistonheads.com which is apparently Europes no.1 motoring website can't even spell the name of the British current FIA Formula 1 World Champion currectly! Disgracefull.

thewheelman

2,194 posts

174 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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chr15b said:
I'm 6ft 7 and like most people I can fit in anything I want to smile
It's because you're 6'7" that nobody will stop you trying to wink