RE: SOTW: Citroen AX GT-5/TVR S2

RE: SOTW: Citroen AX GT-5/TVR S2

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DrGP

201 posts

215 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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I love the 'just 80,000' on the TVR. Just been to mars. Just old. Just a huge money pit. What a great word!

SimonSaid

407 posts

187 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Drive Blind said:
SOTW said:
consider the facts: the little GT had essentially the same 1.4-litre 8-valve aluminium block as the GTI
sure I read somewhere that the GTI's engine was actually iron block and the GT's all alloy. That was where a lot of the GTI's extra weight came from.

Or is my memory letting me down? or read an inaccurate magazine? Might have been Autocar....
Ah-ha - that could account for it. The cubic capacity was identical (1360cc), but switching to iron would account for the weight. Anybody able to 'weigh' in here? (I'll get my coat etc)

Greg 172

233 posts

202 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Drive Blind said:
SOTW said:
consider the facts: the little GT had essentially the same 1.4-litre 8-valve aluminium block as the GTI
sure I read somewhere that the GTI's engine was actually iron block and the GT's all alloy. That was where a lot of the GTI's extra weight came from.

Or is my memory letting me down? or read an inaccurate magazine? Might have been Autocar....
Yeah, think you're right - but you got fuel injection on the GTI.

Ponk

1,380 posts

193 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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CampDavid said:
crofty1984 said:
At the risk of sounding suicidal:
"The same engine as the Pug 205 1.4..."
People often drop Mi16 engines in the 205...
Do you see where I'm going with this?

Could it be done? a 2 litre 16 valve eggbox?
It can but it won'd work with the gearbox, which makes it expencive.

There have been a few nutty AX over the years. I remember a white and black one with a superchargedSaxo VTS lump and 300bhp. There was another about 8 years back with silly power and huge brakes the APs of a TVR Cerbra.
It would need all new engine mounts and you ruin the poor AX with all that weight over the front biggrin

There's one AX in particular that stands out called AXO, have a look on youtube for "Tam AX Knockhill". It was supercharged to around 240bhp at the wheels and was stupidly fast.

stormrider2

658 posts

201 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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That ax looks like it'd make a great project, vts engine, stripped out etc, and i bet it'd be great fun on a track.

seawise

2,147 posts

207 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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AX GT - RIP

god how i miss mine, and more importantly the care free life i led when i drove one back in the early '90s.

how i didn't kill myself and those with me at the time is a constant source of amazement.

great SOTW.

dabber

129 posts

234 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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At the firm I worked for we had 3 of them. Mine did 85,000 miles in less than three years and was spot on reliability-wise.

I loved that car - you could thrash the nuts off it constantly and really keep some momentum on the twisties. Really the only hairy moments were under braking. If the road was damp you were liable to toboggan your way through junctions!

What's the modern equivalent?? I want one

Gareth350

1,556 posts

180 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Galaxy Bob said:
traffman said:
I owned a lovely white Ax Gt 3 door in the mid nineties.

Loved it , the clocks were tiny so i never bothered about how fast i was going.

Loved that car i paid 3495 for it!

Oh H68 csp where are you now.
Wow, you could be me. I bought a white F plate 3 door in around 1994 for £3.5k One previous owner and only 22k on the clock. I loved it. I lowered mine by 20mm, polished the alloys, put a K&N filter on and did some sort of tweaking of the carb. I don't know what it was as I just followed something someone else told me. Anyway it made it seem quicker I also had custom door cards made to replace the bottle holders with some nice 4in mid range speakers and put some tweeters in the blanking plates where the window winders would have been on a none GT model.

About 18 months later I sold it for a 205 1.9 GTI to a dealer and one week later I saw it again, but it had after market alloys on it and was been driven by a nutter. I reckon old F401 KGB must be written off by now. Shame as it was immaculate when I sold it.
The reg F401 KGB comes up on my autoparts system at work, so not been scrapped!
1st reg 1st June 1989, in white! So still around somewhere!! biggrin

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Gareth350 said:
Galaxy Bob said:
traffman said:
I owned a lovely white Ax Gt 3 door in the mid nineties.

Loved it , the clocks were tiny so i never bothered about how fast i was going.

Loved that car i paid 3495 for it!

Oh H68 csp where are you now.
Wow, you could be me. I bought a white F plate 3 door in around 1994 for £3.5k One previous owner and only 22k on the clock. I loved it. I lowered mine by 20mm, polished the alloys, put a K&N filter on and did some sort of tweaking of the carb. I don't know what it was as I just followed something someone else told me. Anyway it made it seem quicker I also had custom door cards made to replace the bottle holders with some nice 4in mid range speakers and put some tweeters in the blanking plates where the window winders would have been on a none GT model.

About 18 months later I sold it for a 205 1.9 GTI to a dealer and one week later I saw it again, but it had after market alloys on it and was been driven by a nutter. I reckon old F401 KGB must be written off by now. Shame as it was immaculate when I sold it.
The reg F401 KGB comes up on my autoparts system at work, so not been scrapped!
1st reg 1st June 1989, in white! So still around somewhere!! biggrin
It's not been taxed since 2001 though...

Only cars scrapped after a certain point come up as scrapped.

Galaxy Bob

31 posts

174 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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CampDavid said:
Gareth350 said:
Galaxy Bob said:
traffman said:
I owned a lovely white Ax Gt 3 door in the mid nineties.

Loved it , the clocks were tiny so i never bothered about how fast i was going.

Loved that car i paid 3495 for it!

Oh H68 csp where are you now.
Wow, you could be me. I bought a white F plate 3 door in around 1994 for £3.5k One previous owner and only 22k on the clock. I loved it. I lowered mine by 20mm, polished the alloys, put a K&N filter on and did some sort of tweaking of the carb. I don't know what it was as I just followed something someone else told me. Anyway it made it seem quicker I also had custom door cards made to replace the bottle holders with some nice 4in mid range speakers and put some tweeters in the blanking plates where the window winders would have been on a none GT model.

About 18 months later I sold it for a 205 1.9 GTI to a dealer and one week later I saw it again, but it had after market alloys on it and was been driven by a nutter. I reckon old F401 KGB must be written off by now. Shame as it was immaculate when I sold it.
The reg F401 KGB comes up on my autoparts system at work, so not been scrapped!
1st reg 1st June 1989, in white! So still around somewhere!! biggrin
It's not been taxed since 2001 though...

Only cars scrapped after a certain point come up as scrapped.
Doesn't mean it's not still on the road. This was when I lived in Newcastle*. biggrin



  • Before anyone has a hissy fit, I'm allowed to say this because I was born up there and lived there for the first 25 years of my life.

Country Boy

300 posts

235 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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I had a lovely black AXGT as a company car for a while - brilliant fun to drive, got caught speeding in it the first week I had it. It was always going wrong but it didn't matter because I wasn't paying! Also very flimsy build, lots of rust and cheap plastic bits but fantastic spirited little car.

Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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DrGP said:
I love the 'just 80,000' on the TVR. Just been to mars. Just old. Just a huge money pit. What a great word!
I agree with the last two, but I think the mileage is far from the biggest concern on a £1k TVR!

There are plenty of very nice 100,000+ mile TVRs around - particularly (older) S variants. After all, the average age is about 20 years now, so that's only 5,000 miles a year.

tonym911

16,555 posts

206 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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AX is surely worth it, if only for the single front wiper.

R33f

5 posts

199 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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That is a beautiful example of a mk1 Citroen AX GT5, very rare in 5 doors, Mo here welcoming you all from the AX Owners Club (http://www.axoc.co.uk) where you will find a lot more detailed information about these wonderful wee car's.

I Have a Citroen AX forte, (base mode with factory fitted GT kit), it has a 1.6 16V VTS engine transplant.

from this:



to:






Hardly chav'd up wink, majority of the remaining one's are mostly maintained at a high standard on the AXOC, only a select few turn up here and eGay that are chav'd up, personally speaking, I think those day's are gone (you must have it mistaken for a Saxo! lol), now it's a genuine enthusiast’s / owners car.

Regards
Mo


Edited by R33f on Friday 5th February 16:00

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

183 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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dabber said:
What's the modern equivalent?? I want one
Swift Sport? Panda 100hp?

sjw77

34 posts

189 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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We really should donate more to the ailing Citroen AX sale as wherever the car is, it looks like Beirut.

If I was brave enough to venture there with £700 in my pocket, I'd hope that little pocket rocket could get me out of there sharpish..

I'm well up for a bit of 80's hot hatch once again - so I'm off to have a chat with the seller...

vrooom

3,763 posts

268 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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I had a AX GT that i bought, it broke on me, brakes doesnt work, spun in easy corner, but quick in straight line. Hateful car!

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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R33f said:
Looks interesting smile

I thought the AX had 3 stud hubs?

Gareth350

1,556 posts

180 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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GTi had 4 stud hubs with vented front discs.

Edited by Gareth350 on Friday 5th February 16:45

mikea4tdi

307 posts

190 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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Great thanks for letting everyone know about the TVR i wanted! guess i won't get it for £800 now!