Transferring private plate without MOT

[Altrezia]

motoroller said:

Altrezia said:

My Mrs lost her 21st birthday prezzie plate because of this. By the time the DVLA had got back to her (she applied to do it without having an MOT - you can appeal if it is not motable) she had already given up and sold most of the parts of the car - it was just a bare shell (which she presumed would be enough to prove the car had existed..)

Madness.

What happened to the plate - is it for sale from the DVLA again?

Sorry mate, no idea. It was about 6 years ago now.

[johnnyBv8]

Vixpy1 said:

johnnyBv8 said:

motoroller said:

SystemParanoia said:

I had a bare ( with terminal unsalvageable rust ) shell once that I wanted the plate off... no chance of it ever rolling again, nevermind driving.

I just got a dodgy mot.

Its not like I ever planned on driving the car, or that there would ever be a victim as a result of me getting this piece of paper.

How does one go about... err... obtaining this paper?

Pretty difficult now. The computerised system means that VOSA can scrutinise aspects such as the duration of the MOT, and turn up unannounced to check the vehicle over. I've spoken to a few MOT testers and they seem to live in fear of having their licence revoked and always play it by the book.

bks is it difficult, the MOT system is dodgier now that it ever was.

[julian64]

anonymous said:

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Considering those number plates must both be in the tens of thousands, and considering I think the DVLA already sold them on. I recon the DVLA would do everything in its quite considerable power to scrutinise whatever you put in front of them.

[matt12023]

musclecarmad said:

They inspect all cars over 15 yrs old and if it has no tax they will wanna inspect it and if its had no mot for a while then gets one they may inspect.

They dont, otherwise they would have rumbled the fact that the 1982 car we were transferring the reg off was actually in mongolia at the time

[julian64]

musclecarmad said:

Ha tens of k. They could be worth a mill as that's what d1 and d3 are up for as a pair

That makes me feel like the guy in the Golf advert.

Cheers

[robsti]

anonymous said:

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I thought if you still had not transfered the old log book onto the new style V5 then you could not transfer the plate MOT or not!

[Mr Whippy]

The more they are worth, so the more it's worth doing, the more the DVLA will scrutinise any shenanigans.

I 'know' of one that is worth about £7000, but to get it without issue you'd need to buy a car of very old origin that would probably cost £7000, then make it so it can't be identified as not the one as per the old log book, and then get the new style V5, transfer it, then sell the car again

It's all a bit of an arse really. Worth trying but as said, the more it's worth, the more they will scrutinise, so the more time/money you need to spend to not have a risk of them calling bluff and taking it off your hands for nowt.

Dave

[jdw1234]

anonymous said:

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W1 and W2 are already on cars.

They were never issued at a DVLA auction.

Therefore, I assume they were either transferred or used again in the normal system.

Old log books had to be handed in some time in the 80s to claim numbers like that so all claims will have now been lost.

[Crazy Torque]

There was a well publicised deadline on transfering old green log books (with vehicle details all hand written) to the new V5's. It was ages ago, either late 70's or early 80's.

There was a grace period where you could still retain the plate from the old log book. After this had lapsed, anyone with an old style log book can usually get the number, but it'd be non-transferable.

If you want to transfer a number, you need an MOT. You can either do the work to get an MOT, get a dodgy MOT, or borrow someone elses car, change over the plates/chassis number, and get an MOT on that car with your details

[watchcam]

A thread from the dead I know ..

W2 is on a 2014 BMW but my question is if anyone knows:

A friend has a 1930’s car with a plate similar to YY33 (its slightly different, cant exactly remember as i type this but its 2 letters, two numbers)

He bought the car as a runner in late 60’s/early 70’s but it’s been off the road since the early 80’s. Its a rolling chasis and engine that no longer starts and barely a coachbuild body still attached.
I suspect throwing £40k at it might not restore it.

He is thinking about selling as spares and selling the plate. But I don't think he can?
What complicates it is he doesnt need road tax (its exempt) and it doesn't need an MOT (its exempt)
Thats the first question ...

Now if he was able to sell the plate he would he left with a car that might be restored in the future if not sold as spares. Would the buyer get a new plate from the DVLA if it were restored?

[LordGrover]

AndrewW-G said:

You get it MOT'd and Taxed, there doesnt seem to be a short cut to this and like many others in the past I've had to get a car to scrape through the MOT just to get the plate off it!

Edited by AndrewW-G on Tuesday 9th February 09:43

Thread resurrection!

I've just spoken to DVLA as a friend is in a similar position. Car is taxed and insured but MOT ran out early April. It's a non-runner beyond economical repair so no chance of a fresh MOT cert.
All we need to do is SORN it, wait 5 days then do the transfer - or so the nice lady at DVLA said.