RE: Geneva: Porsche 911 Turbo S Returns
Discussion
Good point earlier, how many of you actually have had or still own a 997 turbo anyway? Its awesome as a everything in one car solution. Ive had mine over two years as its clinically good if less flamboyant that the outright supercars but as your every day car, few of you would really say no if you could. Rain, snow, ice it just grips unlike a rear wheel drive Italian beast. Then the new Gen 2 pdk is a leap up from my version, I know, Ive been on a Porsche UK track day in one and the S will be just that bit more I hope. I get to test drive that in a few months before I have to fully spec the car anyway.
My mates with Ferraris or Lambos after a while just want to take them out on nice days which is dull, whereas I can and do use mine every day.
Anyway the gripe here seems to be about price.
Lets not forget that a new 458 is £185k plus, I think its £15 or 18k to have it in yellow not red and that would be about 18-24 months wait list as well, the only other car that is currently IMHO the very best and that I love to drive is the Gallardo 560-4 which is also £150k, nearly new. I cant though take those cars to clients offices, the Porsche for that reason is more discreet and anyway I can drive all these supercars when I want via my car club ecurie25, hand them back and still own the turbo s.
Anyway the long debate between Porsche v Ferrari lives on which is great, I love but dont want a GT3RS as my commute car, I dont like Datsuns or whatever they are called these days no matter how quick and cheap they are, so my deposit is now with the dealer and I just have to wait for the new 's' MY2011 for about 7-9 months. The spec of the car is the same price as if you chose the same options on a standard turbo lets not forget but it should be rarer and anyway, why spent £128k on a maxed out option list base car and then have an S drive past at the lights with a little more horsepower, more rarity and with all the same items fitted as standard albeit for the same money.
I will wave at you when I zip past on the M1 or A1 around Xmas time!!
Best wishes from the first person on this thread to have actually bought one.
You are only on this planet once IMHO
My mates with Ferraris or Lambos after a while just want to take them out on nice days which is dull, whereas I can and do use mine every day.
Anyway the gripe here seems to be about price.
Lets not forget that a new 458 is £185k plus, I think its £15 or 18k to have it in yellow not red and that would be about 18-24 months wait list as well, the only other car that is currently IMHO the very best and that I love to drive is the Gallardo 560-4 which is also £150k, nearly new. I cant though take those cars to clients offices, the Porsche for that reason is more discreet and anyway I can drive all these supercars when I want via my car club ecurie25, hand them back and still own the turbo s.
Anyway the long debate between Porsche v Ferrari lives on which is great, I love but dont want a GT3RS as my commute car, I dont like Datsuns or whatever they are called these days no matter how quick and cheap they are, so my deposit is now with the dealer and I just have to wait for the new 's' MY2011 for about 7-9 months. The spec of the car is the same price as if you chose the same options on a standard turbo lets not forget but it should be rarer and anyway, why spent £128k on a maxed out option list base car and then have an S drive past at the lights with a little more horsepower, more rarity and with all the same items fitted as standard albeit for the same money.
I will wave at you when I zip past on the M1 or A1 around Xmas time!!
Best wishes from the first person on this thread to have actually bought one.
You are only on this planet once IMHO
Mr Whippy said:
I think the point is that Ferrari prices are justified with their build process. Ie, foundry, casting, machining, hand finishing, painting and everything on-site.
Porsche just run a normal factory process like say BMW, yet their Turbo S is approaching Ferrari money.
I suppose you only need to look how Porsche have managed to make a huge profit to understand that they must make em cheap, sell em expensive (relatively speaking)
Dave
Yet, an interview with a manager of a supercar club stated that the Porsches were the only cars not needing frequent and very expensive repairs. Porsche just run a normal factory process like say BMW, yet their Turbo S is approaching Ferrari money.
I suppose you only need to look how Porsche have managed to make a huge profit to understand that they must make em cheap, sell em expensive (relatively speaking)
Dave
The Ferrari's and Lamborgini's all needed new clutches and exhaust manifolds within 20k miles, whereas the 911 Turbo's sailed to 80k with very little attention.
Second hand sales of Ferrari's don't often feature high mileage cars, whereas its usual to find 911 for sale at 80K to 150k miles.
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