Petrol Prices - how bad will it get this year ?

Petrol Prices - how bad will it get this year ?

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tangent police

3,097 posts

177 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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I've got a dag-dag van for the purpose and it will mostly be running not diesel.

Drederick Tatum

1,033 posts

186 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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its 166.9 for diesel near me, now that is crazy!

dougc

8,240 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Drederick Tatum said:
its 166.9 for diesel near me, now that is crazy!
Thats got to be one of those 'bio' places hasn't it? Only 114.9 on the corner of Shirland and Maida Vale last night...

soad

32,907 posts

177 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Drederick Tatum said:
its 166.9 for diesel near me, now that is crazy!
Where on earth is that? London?

Drederick Tatum

1,033 posts

186 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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sorry i meant 116.9 typo

Drederick Tatum

1,033 posts

186 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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The highest is 133.9 for super near me, can anyone top that I wonder

http://www.petrolprices.com/search.html?search=w4

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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I've often wondered at what point fuel prices will have to reach before it's more economical for me to stay in bed and live on benefits than it is to commute.

Maybe I'll find out this year.

kambites

67,587 posts

222 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Overall, they'll probably rise roughly in line with inflation. They generally do in the long run:



(that was the first chart I found on google).

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Bursar said:
Tax is due to increase at the start of April, so I'd expect about £1.20 by then. By the end of the year I would guesstimate about £1.40/litre
The thing is we just don't know. Last time it was up at about £1.20-£1.30 a litre and i remember 'Experts' saying they couldn't imagine prices going down, but they did.

It depends on so many factors that it's impossible to predict.

As an example I once got talking to a very senior person in the company I work for (A large multinational petrochemical company). At the time the high oil price was killing us and I asked him what he thought would happen to the price over the course of the year. His response was, "we pay people millions to predict these things and we still have no idea". If these guys don't know, what chance do we have.

In short, what's going to happen is going to happen. No new government will change that, despite talk of oil in the South Atlantic. The reality is, that unless you do mega miles or drive a Hummer, the price of petrol isn't that significant in the big scheme of things and a 20p per litre increase if you 12,000 miles a year and average 25mpg only works out at £35 a month. If you do more miles and are getting less than 25mpg then you drive a crazy car and could probably afford it if fule was £5 a litre.


kambites

67,587 posts

222 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Devil2575 said:
In short, what's going to happen is going to happen. No new government will change that, despite talk of oil in the South Atlantic. The reality is, that unless you do mega miles or drive a Hummer, the price of petrol isn't that significant in the big scheme of things and a 20p per litre increase if you 12,000 miles a year and average 25mpg only works out at £35 a month. If you do more miles and are getting less than 25mpg then you drive a crazy car and could probably afford it if fule was £5 a litre.
yes The problem with petrol prices (for individuals) is largely psychological. Yes there are a few people whose lives will be significantly affected by having to spend an extra £35 a month on fuel (and of course most cars average much more than 25mpg), but they must be in a tiny minority.

Its effect on businesses is harder to quantify, I think.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 11th March 14:41

Devil2575

13,400 posts

189 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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kambites said:
Its effect on businesses is harder to quantify, I think.
Yes. Companies or individuals who drive for a living such as hauliers and taxi drivers will be impacted much more by any increases in price.

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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The higher the better methinks as my petrol costs are paid by the company!!!!

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This would mean that most big engined high fuel use cars will drop in price and be much easier to afford as a weekend toy.

andye30m3

3,453 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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When will the 40p a mile I get for work use be increased? It's not changed since fuel was 1/2 the price it is today

10 years ago it used to be a bit of a bonus on my cheap to run cars, now it doesn't really cover the costs of driving and neither on my cars are very expensive to run.

ShadownINja

76,386 posts

283 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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I'd like to see how the $140/barrel rate when adjusted for the then gbp/usd rate is compared to today's $80/barrel rate. I'm sure it's just basic maths but I'm too lazy.

richardxjr

7,561 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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I think it's up 25% already in less than a year. Local petrol station on streetview showing 89.9, now 112.9, and I'm sure the pics were taken last spring.

Where will it end? Who knows, but right now I'm glad to have offloaded my 4.6 Rangie last week.

Edit: Christ! up another 2p to 114.9 in half a day.



Edited by richardxjr on Thursday 11th March 18:36

ShadownINja

76,386 posts

283 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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musclecarmad said:
ShadownINja said:
I'd like to see how the $140/barrel rate when adjusted for the then gbp/usd rate is compared to today's $80/barrel rate. I'm sure it's just basic maths but I'm too lazy.
it's roughly 1p for every $2 isn't it? that is a VERY rough guess/rule of thumb!
I have no idea. What I'm wondering is whether the price has gone up as a result of the fall in the pound despite the fall in the barrel of oil price without people taking the piss and adding a few pence here and there. Then stick on the tax and we get today's price?

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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I paid £1.22.4 a litre today.......!

ShadownINja

76,386 posts

283 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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musclecarmad said:
ShadownINja said:
musclecarmad said:
ShadownINja said:
I'd like to see how the $140/barrel rate when adjusted for the then gbp/usd rate is compared to today's $80/barrel rate. I'm sure it's just basic maths but I'm too lazy.
it's roughly 1p for every $2 isn't it? that is a VERY rough guess/rule of thumb!
I have no idea. What I'm wondering is whether the price has gone up as a result of the fall in the pound despite the fall in the barrel of oil price without people taking the piss and adding a few pence here and there. Then stick on the tax and we get today's price?
yes the price has gone up due to fall in the pound.

if oil was $147 today as it was a year or two ago then petrol would be MUCH more than it was at the last peak due to weaker pound and the vat that's been added on and the increased duty
Thanks, that's what I wanted to know. So we should count ourselves lucky it isn't already £1.50.

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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musclecarmad said:
Tallbut Buxomly said:
The higher the better methinks as my petrol costs are paid by the company!!!!

biggrin

This would mean that most big engined high fuel use cars will drop in price and be much easier to afford as a weekend toy.
yeah, sadly I too want petrol prices to go sky high as it will affect other people more than it will me so that will mean less traffic on the roads and cars becoming cheaper and so on.

i traded from a 30mpg car to a 60mpg car so it can double before i'd even be at a level I was a year or two ago. It'd have to treble before i'd even think about petrol costs and probably quadruple before i'd start thinking seriously about the costs.
Agreed less traffic on the roads would be nice but sadly we are alrady seeing the effects of the fuel prices on those who pay for their own in the form of a lot of people keeping rigidly to speed limits and in fact below in a desperate attempt to eak out every last mm of distance covered which is insanely irritating.

ShadownINja

76,386 posts

283 months

Thursday 11th March 2010
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Tallbut Buxomly said:
musclecarmad said:
Tallbut Buxomly said:
The higher the better methinks as my petrol costs are paid by the company!!!!

biggrin

This would mean that most big engined high fuel use cars will drop in price and be much easier to afford as a weekend toy.
yeah, sadly I too want petrol prices to go sky high as it will affect other people more than it will me so that will mean less traffic on the roads and cars becoming cheaper and so on.

i traded from a 30mpg car to a 60mpg car so it can double before i'd even be at a level I was a year or two ago. It'd have to treble before i'd even think about petrol costs and probably quadruple before i'd start thinking seriously about the costs.
Agreed less traffic on the roads would be nice but sadly we are alrady seeing the effects of the fuel prices on those who pay for their own in the form of a lot of people keeping rigidly to speed limits and in fact below in a desperate attempt to eak out every last mm of distance covered which is insanely irritating.
We'll see an increase in price of anything that is transported by lorry... so we will pay for it one way or another. What about air travel? It might not be related to the gbp/usd rate but is related to the price of oil.