RE: Driven: Volkswagen Golf R
Discussion
bales said:
300bhp/ton said:
Rather a dull looking excuse for a performance car and a massively over inflated price range. You've seriously got to be nuts, not only to want one, but to actually pay full whack for a bit of tat like this....
Ha ha you're going to be so annoyed if someone doesn't pick you up on that aren't you!
The one good thing about the new R not having the V6 is that the Mk5 R32 will probably hold its value better.
The 0-60 time of the new R isn't a great improvement either - the DSG mk5 does it in 5.7 seconds. I guess it's all about emissions and mpg, neither of which are reasons to buy an R32...
The 0-60 time of the new R isn't a great improvement either - the DSG mk5 does it in 5.7 seconds. I guess it's all about emissions and mpg, neither of which are reasons to buy an R32...
I don't understand why it couldn't have had the 3.6l motor from the Passatt R36 in it? That's a narrow angle VR6 and not really any larger than the R32 motor, plus plenty of people have shoe-horned it into Mk4 and Mk5 Golfs. Few tweaks, slighly lumpier cams and a freer flowing exhaust and it would have about 330bhp and sound epic. Yes it would be a bit heavier than the 4-pot but bias the Haldex kit a little more for the rear wheels (20-odd% standard read drive would probably do) and it would probably sell like hot cakes.
Mike Rob said:
My wife is looking to up-grade her 3 year old R32 - this seems to be the only alternative. Would be nice to know how the Golf R stacks up against that rather than the Scirocco.
A review of the new Golf R from an ex-R32 owner here:http://www.rforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=268.0
atomic69 said:
I believe the Scirocco R uses the new engine but the Golf R uses the old Edition 30 engine so that goes some way to explain the difference in figures
Not true. They both use the EA113 engine (from the Audi S3). Scirocco one slightly de-tuned.Edited by BlackPorker on Monday 19th April 12:31
Escort Si-130 said:
I have still yet to see one on the road yet. Are they still sold out for 2010 or was it marketing hype.
Customer orders have been delayed - they were supposed to arrive in March. There's a decent community called R Forum (http://www.rforum.co.uk) where current, future and aspiring owners talk about both the Golf and Scirocco R.Intresting in that the Golf R isnt as rip off in Germany as it is in the UK. I guess they know people here in the UK are stupid enough as always to pay for overpriced german vehicles... only in the UK.
the-photographer said:
Somewhat interesting comparison from Germany (Golf R, 130, S3 and Focus RS)
Golf just pips the 130, but its close;
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Golf just pips the 130, but its close;
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adycav said:
I too am surprised how the Golf is actually more expensive than the S3. If someone could explain why I would be grateful.
Two reasons:1. Golf R is new model. Audi S3 is coming to end of it's life.
2. Golf R is produced in limited numbers - supply/demand dicates a higher price
No doubt new S3 (due 2011?) will be priced above Golf R.
BlackPorker said:
adycav said:
I too am surprised how the Golf is actually more expensive than the S3. If someone could explain why I would be grateful.
Two reasons:1. Golf R is new model. Audi S3 is coming to end of it's life.
2. Golf R is produced in limited numbers - supply/demand dicates a higher price
No doubt new S3 (due 2011?) will be priced above the Golf R.
LOL, a Golf over an Audi???? hmmm reality check. Just go out there and take it look at many of the Golf's out there and see the general condition to them compared to an Audi, most are derelict and not looked after.
Seems an odd car to bring out for VAG really, they are both aimed at the same market and are in the same price range...Nah, the Golf is destined for those people who are too smug even for an Audi. They want to pretend they are 'classless' by buying a car that stinks of 'look at me in my expensive Golf'. It's a £30k piece of classic German irony.
10 Pence Short said:
bales said:
Dagnut said:
why can't VW just cut lose once and give us a proper performance machine...they always seem just a little bit to safe..they could of easily given this 300bhp..but then they are stepping on S3 toes..
Not really, this is a direct competitor for the S3 the both have the same power, engine and drivetrain.Seems an odd car to bring out for VAG really, they are both aimed at the same market and are in the same price range...
This golf shape just doesn't excite me.
The R32 had a hot hatch look and feel to it, slightly muscular but still sporty, only let down by a ropey 4WD system (well for me) but a cracking engine.
This could have a cosworth badge on it and it wouldn't make a difference, just doesn't stand out from the other Golfs or the crowd.
The R32 had a hot hatch look and feel to it, slightly muscular but still sporty, only let down by a ropey 4WD system (well for me) but a cracking engine.
This could have a cosworth badge on it and it wouldn't make a difference, just doesn't stand out from the other Golfs or the crowd.
Dracoro said:
Adz The Rat said:
I just cant get over that price, £35k for a Golf!!
Indeed, however have you seen the BMW 1 series prices!!!!! Everything is getting more expensive.Only an issue for those that can't afford them I suppose. I'm sure enough will sell to keep the manufacturers happy.
A Mazda RX-8, which is just as practical as the Golf is only £25k, even if it is worse on fuel, £10k will buy a heck of a lot of petrol.
BlackPorker said:
Mike Rob said:
My wife is looking to up-grade her 3 year old R32 - this seems to be the only alternative. Would be nice to know how the Golf R stacks up against that rather than the Scirocco.
A review of the new Golf R from an ex-R32 owner here:http://www.rforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=268.0
300bhp/ton said:
Dracoro said:
Adz The Rat said:
I just cant get over that price, £35k for a Golf!!
Indeed, however have you seen the BMW 1 series prices!!!!! Everything is getting more expensive.Only an issue for those that can't afford them I suppose. I'm sure enough will sell to keep the manufacturers happy.
A Mazda RX-8, which is just as practical as the Golf is only £25k, even if it is worse on fuel, £10k will buy a heck of a lot of petrol.
300bhp/ton said:
Dracoro said:
Adz The Rat said:
I just cant get over that price, £35k for a Golf!!
Indeed, however have you seen the BMW 1 series prices!!!!! Everything is getting more expensive.Only an issue for those that can't afford them I suppose. I'm sure enough will sell to keep the manufacturers happy.
A Mazda RX-8, which is just as practical as the Golf is only £25k, even if it is worse on fuel, £10k will buy a heck of a lot of petrol.
10 Pence Short said:
300bhp/ton said:
Dracoro said:
Adz The Rat said:
I just cant get over that price, £35k for a Golf!!
Indeed, however have you seen the BMW 1 series prices!!!!! Everything is getting more expensive.Only an issue for those that can't afford them I suppose. I'm sure enough will sell to keep the manufacturers happy.
A Mazda RX-8, which is just as practical as the Golf is only £25k, even if it is worse on fuel, £10k will buy a heck of a lot of petrol.
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