RE: Ferrari 599XX Posts 6Min 58.16Sec 'Ring Time

RE: Ferrari 599XX Posts 6Min 58.16Sec 'Ring Time

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havoc

30,072 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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sjn2004 said:
I bit of research might not go a miss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_24_Hours_of_Le_M...

GT2 1st,2nd,3rd,4th Ferrari........11th Porsche
When was the last factory, or even quasi-factory team?!? IIRC Prodrive was the last of those...all others have been privateer teams.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

209 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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Awesome bit of kit, but 'production derived', what a great PR lie!

ian_touring

585 posts

205 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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Porkie said:
It was there all day on Monday as well... I did a trackday there and was lucky enough to be on track with it.

I have some AIM smartycam footage as well that I will download and post.

but I also grabbed this crap pic from in car

That's a great looking car, but way more importantly I think its time to change your wiper blades, the little yellow warning sticker says so.
hehe
BTW, Any headline with the words "ferrari", "record" and "nurburgring" in the same sentence is marketing heaven.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

217 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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sjn2004 said:
I bit of research might not go a miss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_24_Hours_of_Le_M...

GT2 1st,2nd,3rd,4th Ferrari........11th Porsche
F430 GT2 like most of the Ferrari sports racers since the late 80's, was built not by Ferrari but under licence by Michelotto nerd

As per many others, this "record" is nonesense, the FXX is as much a road car as the Ford Supervan or Renault / Williams F1 Espace, yet I've not heard that Ford has the record for a commercial vehicle or Renault for a people carrier

Rocky Balboa

1,308 posts

200 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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The Radical holds the record not this piece of st.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

198 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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AAAADDDDRRRRIIIIAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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Rocky Balboa said:
The Radical holds the record not this piece of st.
Nope the 956 does.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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ZeeTacoe said:
Rocky Balboa said:
The Radical holds the record not this piece of st.
Nope the 956 does.
exactly, end of.

ctallchris said:
Ferrari said:
despite being road legal the SR8 is basically a spaceframe racing car so it's time doesn't count
I don't see what being built around a spaceframe has to do with it Especially given the Ferrari 360 is built around a spaceframe.
360 is not a spaceframe, any more than a Renault Spider was, or a Lotus Elise is, it;s a welded ali tub

Dr S

4,997 posts

226 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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GT4 Baz said:
Last I heard, the Caparo boys were aiming for 6.10! We shall see I guess...
That would be beating Belloff's training time then and an absolute record on that track

Rocky Balboa

1,308 posts

200 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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ZeeTacoe said:
Rocky Balboa said:
The Radical holds the record not this piece of st.
Nope the 956 does.
hehe You know what i mean tongue out 'the production car record'


The Ferrari was on slick tyres the Radical was not. Oh yeh and that has to be one of the ugliest cars Ferrari has ever made imo. A mess.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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Rocky Balboa said:
ZeeTacoe said:
Rocky Balboa said:
The Radical holds the record not this piece of st.
Nope the 956 does.
hehe You know what i mean tongue out 'the production car record'


The Ferrari was on slick tyres the Radical was not. Oh yeh and that has to be one of the ugliest cars Ferrari has ever made imo. A mess.
and technically, the 956 was a production car.

Rocky Balboa

1,308 posts

200 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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Scuffers said:
Rocky Balboa said:
ZeeTacoe said:
Rocky Balboa said:
The Radical holds the record not this piece of st.
Nope the 956 does.
hehe You know what i mean tongue out 'the production car record'


The Ferrari was on slick tyres the Radical was not. Oh yeh and that has to be one of the ugliest cars Ferrari has ever made imo. A mess.
and technically, the 956 was a production car.
Cool i didn't know that! How many were made road legal?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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Rocky Balboa said:
Scuffers said:
Rocky Balboa said:
ZeeTacoe said:
Rocky Balboa said:
The Radical holds the record not this piece of st.
Nope the 956 does.
hehe You know what i mean tongue out 'the production car record'


The Ferrari was on slick tyres the Radical was not. Oh yeh and that has to be one of the ugliest cars Ferrari has ever made imo. A mess.
and technically, the 956 was a production car.
Cool i didn't know that! How many were made road legal?
I know of at least 1.

rapidophile

213 posts

219 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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Scuffers said:
Rocky Balboa said:
Scuffers said:
Rocky Balboa said:
ZeeTacoe said:
Rocky Balboa said:
The Radical holds the record not this piece of st.
Nope the 956 does.
hehe You know what i mean tongue out 'the production car record'


The Ferrari was on slick tyres the Radical was not. Oh yeh and that has to be one of the ugliest cars Ferrari has ever made imo. A mess.
and technically, the 956 was a production car.
Cool i didn't know that! How many were made road legal?
I know of at least 1.
Though the later 962 has out-of-the-box street legal derivatives (with several examples made of each) and the earlier 917 has quite a lot of road registered examples. Rather urgent for cars which leave the production line with a synchromesh gearbox and an ignition key. Conversely - the F599XX doesn't even have a full set of lights and they are optional extras on the Radical...

PiB

1,199 posts

270 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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Verde said:
Find the marketing person or team who did this and dismiss them.
You are joking right? I think they're probably being promoted for making a such an amazing news headline albeit completely not true as discussed here. It's just Ferrari doing what they always do - be Italian.

On a side note what's impressive is the Dodge Viper ACR at 7 minutes 22 seconds. In the states those can be had for under $100k usd.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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DiscoColin said:
Though the later 962 has out-of-the-box street legal derivatives (with several examples made of each) and the earlier 917 has quite a lot of road registered examples. Rather urgent for cars which leave the production line with a synchromesh gearbox and an ignition key. Conversely - the F599XX doesn't even have a full set of lights and they are optional extras on the Radical...
Dauer Racing did the road legal 962's, they were done with official Porsche backing.

two were then entered in Lemans as GT cars in 1993 (and won outright).

amare32

2,417 posts

223 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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Does the ring record matter? All of us would not be capable of 6mins 58.16secs even if we were given a 599XX to play with - probably most likely die in a ball of flames trying though..

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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amare32 said:
Does the ring record matter? All of us would not be capable of 6mins 58.16secs even if we were given a 599XX to play with - probably most likely die in a ball of flames trying though..
Take your point, but it's probably more useful/relevant than 0-60 or top speed stats, and certainly more representative of a cars performance on road than Anglesey or Bedford tracks (as it has much faster sweeping bends more like real roads)

Kawasicki

13,086 posts

235 months

Sunday 25th April 2010
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Interesting one this. I reckon Ferrari marketing have been working up to this for a while now. I understand Schumacher has been working with a team of engineers to improve the performance of their cars around the ring. My opinion is that many ferrari road cars before this work had been done would really struggle on the ring. By struggle, I mean go home and try again struggle. All only my opinion of course.

Imagine a well respected brand of car that can't stick with a lowly bmw, not good for marketing...