RE: Dagger GT Tilts At 300MPH Barrier

[TotalControl]

That is quite a good looker, better than that new Renault thing (exterior wise) I reckon.

Doubt it will get to 300 mph.

[Pommygranite]

What a waste of fking print, air, bandwidth and time. Even more so than this post.

Basically it'll never happen, and if it does it'll just be some badly made monstrosity that no one apart from some financially moronic patriotic american will buy.

What a load of made up computer generated wk.

Edited by Pommygranite on Thursday 8th July 03:47

[FestivAli]

I know it's just a rendering, but that in my mind is exactly how a supercar should look. Even if they launch it with a Daihatsu 1.0L 3-pot it wouldn't matter.

[pilchardthecat]

FestivAli said:

I know it's just a rendering, but that in my mind is exactly how a supercar should look. Even if they launch it with a Daihatsu 1.0L 3-pot it wouldn't matter.

Just quoting that post in order to preserve it's monumental stupidity for all time

[chelme]

off_again said:

Meh.

The history books will be full of the McLaren F1 and Bugatti Veyron for their abilities and engineering (and being the fastest at their time). But the rest of these wannabes will be consigned to the footnotes.

Pissing competition material for the super rich (and daft). Oh, my car can do 200MPH. Yeah, but my car can do 300MPH.... meh... as if anyone would be impressed with that? Maybe for 14 year old boys yes, but cant see this actually getting off the ground and selling.

Well said.

[CraigyMc]

matbat said:

ROFL, did they work out the "specs" on the back of a beer matt?


-6th gear will be - 0.56: 308mph @6200 rpm
-Redline RPM 6200 rpm
-Top Speed 314 mph (calculated)* new supercar record

Something tells me they can't calculate gear ratios.....

Still. Nice looking picture :-)

Devils advocate for a sec - a redline isn't the same as a rev limit, and tyres expand at speed.

I still think this is a load of tripe though.

C

[Davi]

Fresh_Clip said:

ellisd82 said:

Dont care how fast it goes - that car is stunning!

Errm, it's a picture in a computer, not a car. Google up the Aeon Epona to see how much effort it takes to get an actual car built from a computer render. Twenty thousand spotty design students can turn out twenty thousand renders and it doesn't make a lick of difference what any of them say about performance. A picture in a computer has absolutely zero performance in every way, apart from the jizzed y-fronts aspect.

What has proposed / imaginary / scribbled on a beermat performance got to do with ellis' comments? He said it was stunning. It is.

You've made your point about it only being in a computer at the moment, that doesn't detract from the fact that the design is aesthetically excellent. The amount of effort it takes to get a car from a picture to a finished thing can be as long as that piece of string. It can be as hard or as difficult as you want to make it. The Aeon Epona saga had little influence from the physical difficulties involved and is irrelevant.

[Ryan80]

So just to confirm, they've got plans for 1300bhp on pump fuel, 2000 on race fuel, and with drag/top speed run tyres, running on the race fuel with aerodynamics package, it will hit 300mph? but in ordinary form, running 1300hp, on road legal tyres on pump fuel, it will top out at what exactly?

Oh and if someone was to run a veyron on race fuel, fit 500mph rated drag tyres, and fit suitable aerodynamic aids, just how fast would it run? hmmmmm

[DrTre]

Ryan80 said:

So just to confirm, they've got plans for 1300bhp on pump fuel, 2000 on race fuel, and with drag/top speed run tyres, running on the race fuel with aerodynamics package, it will hit 300mph? but in ordinary form, running 1300hp, on road legal tyres on pump fuel, it will top out at what exactly?

Oh and if someone was to run a veyron on race fuel, fit 500mph rated drag tyres, and fit suitable aerodynamic aids, just how fast would it run? hmmmmm

No, just to confirm, it's one massive advert for capital to build an OK looking piece of vapourware that stands as much chance of being built as I have of nailing Bar Refaeli.

[iamrcb]

lovely looking car but I suspect most of the claims are a load of a r s e

[TotalControl]

DrTre said:

Ryan80 said:

So just to confirm, they've got plans for 1300bhp on pump fuel, 2000 on race fuel, and with drag/top speed run tyres, running on the race fuel with aerodynamics package, it will hit 300mph? but in ordinary form, running 1300hp, on road legal tyres on pump fuel, it will top out at what exactly?

Oh and if someone was to run a veyron on race fuel, fit 500mph rated drag tyres, and fit suitable aerodynamic aids, just how fast would it run? hmmmmm

No, just to confirm, it's one massive advert for capital to build an OK looking piece of vapourware that stands as much chance of being built as I have of nailing Bar Refaeli.

Very true. You don't have any chance of nailing her.



Keep dreaming Tre.

Edited by TotalControl on Thursday 8th July 22:55

[Fresh_Clip]

Davi said:

You've made your point about it only being in a computer at the moment, that doesn't detract from the fact that the design is aesthetically excellent. The amount of effort it takes to get a car from a picture to a finished thing can be as long as that piece of string. It can be as hard or as difficult as you want to make it. The Aeon Epona saga had little influence from the physical difficulties involved and is irrelevant.

It's obvious English isn't your first language so I'll take that into account.

Just how is the Aeon Epona irrelevant in this case? The Epona was conceived as an idea, sketched on paper, computer modelled and physically modelled. After this process, a chassis had to be developed to suit the physical dimensions of the body work. Moulds for body work had to be created and room found for trivial things like electrics, fuel tank, radiator, seats , pedal box, seatbelts etc etc. Also, suitable automotive glass had to be sourced. The list goes on and on. Regardless of the resources available, this is the process from idea to reality!!!!!

The aesthetics of this vapourcar are the thing that's irrelevant at the moment.

Taking a fanciful design from the beermat to the showroom is a herculean undertaking and even more so when you're proposing to top 300mph! How will this "aesthetically pleasing" design behave at 300mph??? Anoraks don't care about that! Anoraks just want to dream about driving down to 't chippie in their 300mph sooooooopercar!

If you look at an LMP1 car, you'll see that they design them around the idea of the car being stable and controllable at high speed, not to look flash in the high street. Even then mistakes can occur, remember the flying Mercedes racers?

Anyway, this whole discussion is pretty pointless, we'll never see one of these on the high street or Bonneville or anywhere other than a pretty picture on a computer.

[McAndy]

TotalControl said:

Very true. You don't have any chance of nailing her.

(If she falls asleep like that your chances increase though...)

[Davi]

Fresh_Clip said:

Davi said:

You've made your point about it only being in a computer at the moment, that doesn't detract from the fact that the design is aesthetically excellent. The amount of effort it takes to get a car from a picture to a finished thing can be as long as that piece of string. It can be as hard or as difficult as you want to make it. The Aeon Epona saga had little influence from the physical difficulties involved and is irrelevant.

It's obvious English isn't your first language so I'll take that into account.

Just how is the Aeon Epona irrelevant in this case? The Epona was conceived as an idea, sketched on paper, computer modelled and physically modelled. After this process, a chassis had to be developed to suit the physical dimensions of the body work. Moulds for body work had to be created and room found for trivial things like electrics, fuel tank, radiator, seats , pedal box, seatbelts etc etc. Also, suitable automotive glass had to be sourced. The list goes on and on. Regardless of the resources available, this is the process from idea to reality!!!!!

The aesthetics of this vapourcar are the thing that's irrelevant at the moment.

Taking a fanciful design from the beermat to the showroom is a herculean undertaking and even more so when you're proposing to top 300mph! How will this "aesthetically pleasing" design behave at 300mph??? Anoraks don't care about that! Anoraks just want to dream about driving down to 't chippie in their 300mph sooooooopercar!

If you look at an LMP1 car, you'll see that they design them around the idea of the car being stable and controllable at high speed, not to look flash in the high street. Even then mistakes can occur, remember the flying Mercedes racers?

Anyway, this whole discussion is pretty pointless, we'll never see one of these on the high street or Bonneville or anywhere other than a pretty picture on a computer.

I'm sorry, you appear to be concerned with my use of English, so I can only assume you can't read. Ellis said that it was stunning, he made no comment on it's likelihood of getting to production. He made no comment on the performance claims. Therefore, in the context of the post of his which you tried to belittle, the aesthetics were the ONLY thing relevant. Many thanks for your condescending little lecture though, I've certainly learned a lot from it. I assumed that you just waved a magic wand and all these things happened, and that in fact the 20 odd boxes of info, contacts, designs and quotes on my car just appeared overnight.

[Fresh_Clip]

Davi said:

The Aeon Epona saga had little influence from the physical difficulties involved and is irrelevant.

Does this statement make sense to anyone exept Davi?

Davi said:

I assumed that you just waved a magic wand and all these things happened, and that in fact the 20 odd boxes of info, contacts, designs and quotes on my car just appeared overnight.

They do if you are building a vapourcar.....

Edited by Fresh_Clip on Tuesday 13th July 05:20