Show us your crash pics!!

[Sa Calobra]

irocfan said:

Alucidnation said:

That's going be a hefty claim on your insurance!

by the sounds of it it's the Renault will be picking up the tab

Did the Clio claim you were going to fast for the conditions? I.e. no lights working.

[Gruffy]

I suffered a ‘failure to proceed’ and crashed into a volcano in Kamchatka. Unlikely to buff out. The full story is now on my blog https://theadventurecapitalist.wordpress.com/2019/...

[Mr E]

Gruffy said:

I suffered a ‘failure to proceed’ and crashed into a volcano in Kamchatka. Unlikely to buff out. The full story is now on my blog https://theadventurecapitalist.wordpress.com/2019/...

Holy st dude

[Alucidnation]

Yep, i think the thread may as well be closed now as we have a 'winner'.

[Seanseansean]

MitchT said:

Audi driver should obviously take the insurance hit, but both him and the X Trail driver should be done for driving without due care and attention.

It’s probably a company car, so I guess it won’t really make a huge difference to him.

[Gruffy]

Mr E said:

Gruffy said:

I suffered a ‘failure to proceed’ and crashed into a volcano in Kamchatka. Unlikely to buff out. The full story is now on my blog https://theadventurecapitalist.wordpress.com/2019/...

Holy st dude

I think that’s pretty much what I said once I’d clambered out and looked back at the thing.

[NDA]

Gruffy said:

I suffered a ‘failure to proceed’ and crashed into a volcano in Kamchatka. Unlikely to buff out. The full story is now on my blog https://theadventurecapitalist.wordpress.com/2019/...

You and I have the same Range Rover.

There the similarity ends!

Yikes! What a thing to go through. I read the blog - the broken necks and hospital experience sounded almost worse than the crash.

[Gruffy]

The crash was probably over within 10-30s (very hard to judge time in those circumstances) and had a kind of helpless certainty to it. It may sound weird but there was little point in worrying.

The hospital was definitely far more terrifying. The poor guys immobilised and in serious pain, staring at the ceiling while they could hear the headless chicken squawking all around them... so much scarier.

[NDA]

Gruffy said:

The crash was probably over within 10-30s (very hard to judge time in those circumstances) and had a kind of helpless certainty to it. It may sound weird but there was little point in worrying.

The hospital was definitely far more terrifying. The poor guys immobilised and in serious pain, staring at the ceiling while they could hear the headless chicken squawking all around them... so much scarier.

I've been in a couple of incidents where I should have been killed. Not that scary - as you say.... you kind of go into a slow motion self-protection thing. It's the looking back at what you survived that's scary!

Knowing you're in a hospital and it's chaotic and you're badly injured... AND it's a very foreign country - that's a different level. I can imagine how terrifying that must have been.

What happened to the chopper ultimately? Was it lifted and salvaged?

You were one of the passengers?

[Gruffy]

My wife and I were both passengers at the time.

The heli was beyond repair. It was broken into pieces on site and lifted off the mountain once the initial crash investigation survey had been done.

[J4CKO]

jay140285 said:

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Really annoying I got rear ended by a Nissan Juke, she did her bumper, grill and radiator.

As you can see, I sustained major damage

Yeah, and the Juke was a mess, but am guessing yours has a separate chassis ?

Was trying to explain to a lady I know about this after her partner crashed their Dodge Ram, well, someone ploughed into it and she was rattling on about how tough it is and what a mess the pathetic french thing that hit it was in, thats what they are meant to do, big trucks like that dont dissipate the energy of a crash nearly as well, thats why her partner and daughter had quite severe whiplash.

But she maintained it had saved their lives and she wouldnt have any other kind of vehicle now due to how safe it was, it is only safe because its big and heavy, its miles off say an XC90.

[AstonZagato]

Was the cause of the crash ever determined?

[Gruffy]

The crash investigation is still ongoing. I’m not expecting to ever know for sure.

[Mr E]

Gruffy said:

I think that’s pretty much what I said once I’d clambered out and looked back at the thing.

Snow looked amazing before that though.
I might stick to ski lifts though.

[Lemming Train]

Gruffy said:

I suffered a ‘failure to proceed’ and crashed into a volcano in Kamchatka. Unlikely to buff out. The full story is now on my blog https://theadventurecapitalist.wordpress.com/2019/...

Some amateur sleuthing by moi :

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=1...

[Gruffy]

The UK air investigations are pushing the Russians on my behalf. I follow that link and receive an update from them whenever anything changes.

[skyrover]

J4CKO said:

Yeah, and the Juke was a mess, but am guessing yours has a separate chassis ?

Was trying to explain to a lady I know about this after her partner crashed their Dodge Ram, well, someone ploughed into it and she was rattling on about how tough it is and what a mess the pathetic french thing that hit it was in, thats what they are meant to do, big trucks like that dont dissipate the energy of a crash nearly as well, thats why her partner and daughter had quite severe whiplash.

But she maintained it had saved their lives and she wouldnt have any other kind of vehicle now due to how safe it was, it is only safe because its big and heavy, its miles off say an XC90.

Statistically you are much safer in a large SUV or pickup truck for several reasons. The XC90 is class leading obviously.

[Frimley111R]

Jakg said:

NDA said:

The number plate of the dozy driver who pulled out on the roundabout is clearly visible - can they be pursued?

Frimley111R said:

I know insurance companies CBA but it was clearly the X-Trail that should have taken the insurance hit on that

(my) insurance company wouldn't even take the details of the X-Trail driver.

skip_1 said:

Could the airbags have gone off because the car thought a rear seat passenger was present, maybe a bag or equipment on rear bench? In the picture the driver is getting something from the rear of the car.

Maybe - but the front passenger curtain airbag went off too. Maybe they had stuff on all the seats, but I doubt it. The car obviously did it for a reason.

I guess that theoretically you should all have been leaving enough of a gap to stop safely? (Yes, I know you did)

[NDA]

Frimley111R said:

I guess that theoretically you should all have been leaving enough of a gap to stop safely? (Yes, I know you did)

Yes you're right. I had initially thought that the idiot who pulled out caused the accident (which he/she sort of did) but of course in the strict letter of the law it's down to the drivers to leave enough room.

[Howard-]

No Face said:

I don’t want to derail the thread or create an argument but I don’t think you can pin too much blame on the X-trail driver, I agree that without his mistake it wouldn’t have happened but if the Audi driver piles into the other Nissan it can only be their fault in my view. They were either coming in too fast, too close to the Nissan or not paying enough attention in my view. If the X trail wasn’t there and the other Nissan just stalled or something I think the same thing would have happened.

Anyway 10/10 for thread content as others have said.

Agreed. The Audi wasn't looking where he was going. He's the one who turned a relatively routine near-miss into an RTA.