RE: M6 Production Ends
Discussion
Er, remarkable!
Cars (performo ones, at least) are a bit like classic heavy rock; everyone blithers on about the mighty Zep and you could credibly argue accordingly. They are/were just sublime and I love 'em.
But there was so much worthy joy to be had just a tiny few years later, if you turned left and sought out the fabulous dysfunctionality of an outfit like my personal faves, UFO.
Goes back to my original point re Ghibli - 99% of punters go "Daytona" at the merest hint of pre 73 Oil Crisis uber coup suggestion - yet the Maser Lounge Lizard was a hugely underrated GT lethario.
In the case of both forgotten heavy moshista and 'off-message' performo-automation, joy resides in the anti-heroness, as it were.
Only they can rock me, rock me.
Hail & Schnell.
Cars (performo ones, at least) are a bit like classic heavy rock; everyone blithers on about the mighty Zep and you could credibly argue accordingly. They are/were just sublime and I love 'em.
But there was so much worthy joy to be had just a tiny few years later, if you turned left and sought out the fabulous dysfunctionality of an outfit like my personal faves, UFO.
Goes back to my original point re Ghibli - 99% of punters go "Daytona" at the merest hint of pre 73 Oil Crisis uber coup suggestion - yet the Maser Lounge Lizard was a hugely underrated GT lethario.
In the case of both forgotten heavy moshista and 'off-message' performo-automation, joy resides in the anti-heroness, as it were.
Only they can rock me, rock me.
Hail & Schnell.
Der, good to see your acerbic grandiloquent missives back.
I traded in the Z4MC for an M6 about 6 weeks ago because I have a spine. Constant barracking from the betrothed about the ability of the z to render a brasier useless and that "if I`m not careful at my age I`ll get haemorrhoids" meant something a little more divan-like was the order of the day!
I looked at a lot of coupes and to be honest a lot of them were a little ill treated. Stumbled upon a hardly used Individual Cabrio when the lady was at work one saturday and a deal was done. I blame her for working weekends.
Suffice to say I love it, the basic chassis is a lot more neutral and trustworthy than the Z albeit not as wieldy.
After 6 or so weeks I have learnt the car, took me a lot longer with the Z. During the week P400, EDC soft, traction on and S5 ambles to work or airport are a sublimely relaxing experience (radio 4 on). On the way home P500S, MDM mode and S5 are the order of the day and fantastic fun, find myself coming off the motorway a junction early.
Weekend blats in S6, traction off and P500S, roof down, windows down and I can`t see any other car being able to do all these jobs.
Yes I know it`ll depreciate but so does a good meal and a glass of wine, albeit slower than the M6!
She likes a drink but hell, who doesn`t? I think I shall be keeping the old thing a few years.
I traded in the Z4MC for an M6 about 6 weeks ago because I have a spine. Constant barracking from the betrothed about the ability of the z to render a brasier useless and that "if I`m not careful at my age I`ll get haemorrhoids" meant something a little more divan-like was the order of the day!
I looked at a lot of coupes and to be honest a lot of them were a little ill treated. Stumbled upon a hardly used Individual Cabrio when the lady was at work one saturday and a deal was done. I blame her for working weekends.
Suffice to say I love it, the basic chassis is a lot more neutral and trustworthy than the Z albeit not as wieldy.
After 6 or so weeks I have learnt the car, took me a lot longer with the Z. During the week P400, EDC soft, traction on and S5 ambles to work or airport are a sublimely relaxing experience (radio 4 on). On the way home P500S, MDM mode and S5 are the order of the day and fantastic fun, find myself coming off the motorway a junction early.
Weekend blats in S6, traction off and P500S, roof down, windows down and I can`t see any other car being able to do all these jobs.
Yes I know it`ll depreciate but so does a good meal and a glass of wine, albeit slower than the M6!
She likes a drink but hell, who doesn`t? I think I shall be keeping the old thing a few years.
Congrats on the al fresco approach; all the better to enjoy Brahms' 3rd Racket.
Experiment with full beans everywhere bar the dampers - try them on Eldorado Fleetwood Brougham setting - ime this enables a near perfect infusion of Munchen Sponge to best ameliorate the worst instances of sequentially transmitted nastiness (in those moments where you do get caught out) during higher levels of charging forth.
Furthermore, it seems to bestow upon Der Gross Sechs a certain suspended laziness redolent of the e34/39 M5s at the rear so that if you do fancy a bit of low speed shennanigania, well, it's near Caterham flickable.
Which is of course the real DNA of this car that only long term ownership evidently illuminates; whisk the tribe to din dins and whilst nobody's looking, wear your Badge of S
horpery and warm to that certain, illicit, inner glow.
Experiment with full beans everywhere bar the dampers - try them on Eldorado Fleetwood Brougham setting - ime this enables a near perfect infusion of Munchen Sponge to best ameliorate the worst instances of sequentially transmitted nastiness (in those moments where you do get caught out) during higher levels of charging forth.
Furthermore, it seems to bestow upon Der Gross Sechs a certain suspended laziness redolent of the e34/39 M5s at the rear so that if you do fancy a bit of low speed shennanigania, well, it's near Caterham flickable.
Which is of course the real DNA of this car that only long term ownership evidently illuminates; whisk the tribe to din dins and whilst nobody's looking, wear your Badge of S
horpery and warm to that certain, illicit, inner glow. sootyrumble said:
ArmaghMan said:
sootyrumble said:
E21_Ross said:
plus he's taken a seriously ugly tuned version 
he just thinks his RX8 is quicker than an M6. let him think it if it makes him happy.
he just thinks his RX8 is quicker than an M6. let him think it if it makes him happy.
LOL i never said an RX8 was quicker, i stated an M6 struggled in a particular situation, which was in hard british countryside and how it was not proficient at speed due to the weight etc. as others were making claims about the great handling and prodigious grip, i was very clear about this.
I've driven an RX8 the 230 bhp version....what an absolutely gutless wonder, you had to rev the nuts off it to get it to go, and the sound track...step forward Mr. Dyson.
My 10 year old E39 M5 would be several leagues above it, never mind the V10.
Perhaps the M6 driver was on the phone or some such or maybe he was like the Imprezza driver who pulled in behind me to tell me how over rated M cars were, as I could'nt get away from him.When I let my 2 kids out of the back the penny dropped that I was tiddling along!!!
chr15b said:
sootyrumble said:
ArmaghMan said:
sootyrumble said:
E21_Ross said:
plus he's taken a seriously ugly tuned version
he just thinks his RX8 is quicker than an M6. let him think it if it makes him happy.
he just thinks his RX8 is quicker than an M6. let him think it if it makes him happy.
LOL i never said an RX8 was quicker, i stated an M6 struggled in a particular situation, which was in hard british countryside and how it was not proficient at speed due to the weight etc. as others were making claims about the great handling and prodigious grip, i was very clear about this.
I've driven an RX8 the 230 bhp version....what an absolutely gutless wonder, you had to rev the nuts off it to get it to go, and the sound track...step forward Mr. Dyson.
My 10 year old E39 M5 would be several leagues above it, never mind the V10.
Perhaps the M6 driver was on the phone or some such or maybe he was like the Imprezza driver who pulled in behind me to tell me how over rated M cars were, as I could'nt get away from him.When I let my 2 kids out of the back the penny dropped that I was tiddling along!!!
derestrictor said:
Some unfortunate ignorance going on here.
I shook the old girl down last night, initially warming juices with a gentle saunter up the Buglefuglestrasse and then reverting to a short ribbon of B road purity; it was unbridled, essence of GT magnificence, distilled. What in the name of Bonepart's balls are the detractors wittering on about?
The comments about the new 500 horse XK-R's superiority are ridiculous - the two cars are remarkably similar ito an overall handling repertoire and whether in B road or 'bahn conditions, any differentials are academic for a majority of scenarios, although, having punted along said 'bahns in the company of various junior and not so junior supercars (early Gallardos and Murkatroidia, F360, X50) and matched/prevailed/just about nosed it at the very highest reaches, the conclusion must once more be that there is something very understated about German horses.*
I'm afraid the stock DB9 - as achingly gorgeous as she is - falls away quickly, ito overall dynamics. (*Alpina's B5 was another case in point where a stated 493 brake was clearly absurdly low; even your limiter-faulty e39 M5 can perform age and on-paper figure-defying schnellerific handling/thumping aerobatics which slap time foursquare in the chops with the contemptuous swipe of an angered, Bavarian kipper.)
Back to those pesky B roads and if you switch into the e63s wallowiest damper setting it is remarkable how faithful things are for clean, technical progress or more lurid rump twitch in the traversing thereover: where only Steve Sutcliffe (out of all the testers [because he ran one a while]) discovered, the M6 - and this is a critical difference to the saloon which is, to some extent, understandably being touted in preference - is actually a significantly wieldier thug to chuck than El e60.
I think people have also spectacularly overlooked the raison d'etre of a sporting GT which the M6 most emphatically is. Of course these things tend to be a bit big and yes, an Aerial Atom will dust it coming out of Bets-y-Coed - blimey! Has Cybil Fawlty vacated the contestant's seat in the Bleedin' Obvious edition of Mastermind?
Still, let not reality or experience sully the analysis!
I know you mentioned the war once,and think you got away with it....but you didnt once intimate if you managed to shake off that pesky Mazda RX-8,which,according to certain posts,would most certainly have been glued to your posterior for the duration of the shakedown ? I shook the old girl down last night, initially warming juices with a gentle saunter up the Buglefuglestrasse and then reverting to a short ribbon of B road purity; it was unbridled, essence of GT magnificence, distilled. What in the name of Bonepart's balls are the detractors wittering on about?
The comments about the new 500 horse XK-R's superiority are ridiculous - the two cars are remarkably similar ito an overall handling repertoire and whether in B road or 'bahn conditions, any differentials are academic for a majority of scenarios, although, having punted along said 'bahns in the company of various junior and not so junior supercars (early Gallardos and Murkatroidia, F360, X50) and matched/prevailed/just about nosed it at the very highest reaches, the conclusion must once more be that there is something very understated about German horses.*
I'm afraid the stock DB9 - as achingly gorgeous as she is - falls away quickly, ito overall dynamics. (*Alpina's B5 was another case in point where a stated 493 brake was clearly absurdly low; even your limiter-faulty e39 M5 can perform age and on-paper figure-defying schnellerific handling/thumping aerobatics which slap time foursquare in the chops with the contemptuous swipe of an angered, Bavarian kipper.)
Back to those pesky B roads and if you switch into the e63s wallowiest damper setting it is remarkable how faithful things are for clean, technical progress or more lurid rump twitch in the traversing thereover: where only Steve Sutcliffe (out of all the testers [because he ran one a while]) discovered, the M6 - and this is a critical difference to the saloon which is, to some extent, understandably being touted in preference - is actually a significantly wieldier thug to chuck than El e60.
I think people have also spectacularly overlooked the raison d'etre of a sporting GT which the M6 most emphatically is. Of course these things tend to be a bit big and yes, an Aerial Atom will dust it coming out of Bets-y-Coed - blimey! Has Cybil Fawlty vacated the contestant's seat in the Bleedin' Obvious edition of Mastermind?
Still, let not reality or experience sully the analysis!
The one car which always seems to cause mischief is the urban B7 RS4; uniquely driven in the fashion of an early 90s ram raider, it invariably prevails every time since for a rare epoch of the old motoring career, I'm in the foreign territory of a nil points licence.
I intend to use them all up with a record pinch, rather than mincing about with 3-6 point issuances for minor red rag induced infractions against some local oinkel.
There is no doubt that hereditary speeding peerages and clean tickets represent a Chief Inspector grade green light for maximum dart board realm velocities.
I intend to use them all up with a record pinch, rather than mincing about with 3-6 point issuances for minor red rag induced infractions against some local oinkel.
There is no doubt that hereditary speeding peerages and clean tickets represent a Chief Inspector grade green light for maximum dart board realm velocities.
derestrictor said:
Some unfortunate ignorance going on here.
I shook the old girl down last night, initially warming juices with a gentle saunter up the Buglefuglestrasse and then reverting to a short ribbon of B road purity; it was unbridled, essence of GT magnificence, distilled. What in the name of Bonepart's balls are the detractors wittering on about?
The comments about the new 500 horse XK-R's superiority are ridiculous - the two cars are remarkably similar ito an overall handling repertoire and whether in B road or 'bahn conditions, any differentials are academic for a majority of scenarios, although, having punted along said 'bahns in the company of various junior and not so junior supercars (early Gallardos and Murkatroidia, F360, X50) and matched/prevailed/just about nosed it at the very highest reaches, the conclusion must once more be that there is something very understated about German horses.*
I'm afraid the stock DB9 - as achingly gorgeous as she is - falls away quickly, ito overall dynamics. (*Alpina's B5 was another case in point where a stated 493 brake was clearly absurdly low; even your limiter-faulty e39 M5 can perform age and on-paper figure-defying schnellerific handling/thumping aerobatics which slap time foursquare in the chops with the contemptuous swipe of an angered, Bavarian kipper.)
Back to those pesky B roads and if you switch into the e63s wallowiest damper setting it is remarkable how faithful things are for clean, technical progress or more lurid rump twitch in the traversing thereover: where only Steve Sutcliffe (out of all the testers [because he ran one a while]) discovered, the M6 - and this is a critical difference to the saloon which is, to some extent, understandably being touted in preference - is actually a significantly wieldier thug to chuck than El e60.
I think people have also spectacularly overlooked the raison d'etre of a sporting GT which the M6 most emphatically is. Of course these things tend to be a bit big and yes, an Aerial Atom will dust it coming out of Bets-y-Coed - blimey! Has Cybil Fawlty vacated the contestant's seat in the Bleedin' Obvious edition of Mastermind?
Still, let not reality or experience sully the analysis!
Clearly you are a fan of LJK but spot on... I shook the old girl down last night, initially warming juices with a gentle saunter up the Buglefuglestrasse and then reverting to a short ribbon of B road purity; it was unbridled, essence of GT magnificence, distilled. What in the name of Bonepart's balls are the detractors wittering on about?
The comments about the new 500 horse XK-R's superiority are ridiculous - the two cars are remarkably similar ito an overall handling repertoire and whether in B road or 'bahn conditions, any differentials are academic for a majority of scenarios, although, having punted along said 'bahns in the company of various junior and not so junior supercars (early Gallardos and Murkatroidia, F360, X50) and matched/prevailed/just about nosed it at the very highest reaches, the conclusion must once more be that there is something very understated about German horses.*
I'm afraid the stock DB9 - as achingly gorgeous as she is - falls away quickly, ito overall dynamics. (*Alpina's B5 was another case in point where a stated 493 brake was clearly absurdly low; even your limiter-faulty e39 M5 can perform age and on-paper figure-defying schnellerific handling/thumping aerobatics which slap time foursquare in the chops with the contemptuous swipe of an angered, Bavarian kipper.)
Back to those pesky B roads and if you switch into the e63s wallowiest damper setting it is remarkable how faithful things are for clean, technical progress or more lurid rump twitch in the traversing thereover: where only Steve Sutcliffe (out of all the testers [because he ran one a while]) discovered, the M6 - and this is a critical difference to the saloon which is, to some extent, understandably being touted in preference - is actually a significantly wieldier thug to chuck than El e60.
I think people have also spectacularly overlooked the raison d'etre of a sporting GT which the M6 most emphatically is. Of course these things tend to be a bit big and yes, an Aerial Atom will dust it coming out of Bets-y-Coed - blimey! Has Cybil Fawlty vacated the contestant's seat in the Bleedin' Obvious edition of Mastermind?
Still, let not reality or experience sully the analysis!
derestrictor said:
The one car which always seems to cause mischief is the urban B7 RS4; uniquely driven in the fashion of an early 90s ram raider, it invariably prevails every time since for a rare epoch of the old motoring career, I'm in the foreign territory of a nil points licence.
I intend to use them all up with a record pinch, rather than mincing about with 3-6 point issuances for minor red rag induced infractions against some local oinkel.
There is no doubt that hereditary speeding peerages and clean tickets represent a Chief Inspector grade green light for maximum dart board realm velocities.
Both your cars went to offyourmarks for detailing? I intend to use them all up with a record pinch, rather than mincing about with 3-6 point issuances for minor red rag induced infractions against some local oinkel.
There is no doubt that hereditary speeding peerages and clean tickets represent a Chief Inspector grade green light for maximum dart board realm velocities.
Shame, as with the M5 particularly as this is likely to hail of the performance n/a engine in BMW M models 
Must admit, when the 6er initially came out I thought it an awkward design, very dubious rear end. But I do have to admit, in the following years and to this day I'm really falling for them. Super presence on the road, I reckon they look fab.
Performancebankrupter bargain of the future?
If I had the cash...I'd probably be going down the B6 route.
Must admit, when the 6er initially came out I thought it an awkward design, very dubious rear end. But I do have to admit, in the following years and to this day I'm really falling for them. Super presence on the road, I reckon they look fab.
Performance
If I had the cash...I'd probably be going down the B6 route.
Knightmorph said:
tdm34ds said:
OllieWinchester said:
Knightmorph said:
Still it is a lot of car for under 30k when compared to a ten year old 996 turbo which it will beast in a straight line acceleration.....
Will it?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RTde309nCA
Secondly here a gallardo gets some dry clothes on.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUfJ94aKO0g
I read somewhere that a de-restricted M6 will also slaughter a Nissan GTR by 2-3 seconds to 180mph....not a very relevant statistic in the real world.....but still nice to hear zee Germans giving the Japanese rice cooker a run for its money......
Edited by ukwill on Sunday 25th July 14:18
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