RE: Shinari Concept Shows New Mazda Design Language
Discussion
Riggers said:
Chris71 said:
daz4m said:
Chris71 said:
Do we reckon the RX8's successor will ditch the rotary? If they plan to build a practical, affordable RWD 2+2 coupe with a sensible engine I might even be tempted to part with some cash...
Think about what the R stands for!!
Good point. They can call it whatever they like if it's got the RX8s pace and handling in a slightly more reliable/frugal package.
See here: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
If you want something different go with an RX - Why do so many people want to make every car exactly the same?
I hate Nissan Micras, but I don't want them to become RWD V8 coupes so I can change my mind!
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BBS-LM said:
I don't get Mazda, they produce some stunning design concepts, but seem to miss the mark when the concept ideas are carried across to the final production vehicles.
All manufacturers are like that.I mean this VW didn't exactly get up and running
Concept cars are like catwalk fashion. You will not find them on the high street. But you might see a few hints and colours in 6 months time.
Riggers said:
Chris71 said:
daz4m said:
Chris71 said:
Do we reckon the RX8's successor will ditch the rotary? If they plan to build a practical, affordable RWD 2+2 coupe with a sensible engine I might even be tempted to part with some cash...
Think about what the R stands for!!Good point. They can call it whatever they like if it's got the RX8s pace and handling in a slightly more reliable/frugal package.
See here: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
Munter said:
BBS-LM said:
I don't get Mazda, they produce some stunning design concepts, but seem to miss the mark when the concept ideas are carried across to the final production vehicles.
All manufacturers are like that.I mean this VW didn't exactly get up and running
Concept cars are like catwalk fashion. You will not find them on the high street. But you might see a few hints and colours in 6 months time.
New design language? Looks pretty much identical to their current design language if you ask me. Front & rear lights, grille, waistline - all could be on a 2006 Mazda concept.
May be they should tap Ford for some tips on how to *really* reboot their designs as Henry's boys (at least the European ones) seem to have managed this at least two or three times in the last 30 years (jellymold Sierra, New Edge etc.)
May be they should tap Ford for some tips on how to *really* reboot their designs as Henry's boys (at least the European ones) seem to have managed this at least two or three times in the last 30 years (jellymold Sierra, New Edge etc.)
I think it looks great. The sweeping lines would be great to see in a "run of the mill" car. In a shortened version I think it would look even better. Go for it Mazda.
Folks you realise that a concept is just that. Its not saying we are going to make this, they are trying to things, testing how its received, learning and getting some new ideas.
Folks you realise that a concept is just that. Its not saying we are going to make this, they are trying to things, testing how its received, learning and getting some new ideas.
Rodimus said:
mrclav said:
I'm loving this (even though some might say the front end is a bit of a Jag rip-off), it definitely is a very agreeable design - let's hope they doesn't dilute it too much... Well done Mazda!
Well to be fair, the new xk8 is more of an Aston Martin rip-off. About the shinari, I think it's absolutely beautiful. I love what Mazda have done with the 3 and 6. Definetly more interesting than their rivals
If they build that, they'll sell loads. But they won't. After all, they never built any cars with their last "design language". There were some stunning concepts like the Furai and Fuko, or something, but the crazy bodywork didn't ever translate to production.
Yes it looks very Jag XJ, Maserati GT, Rapide, etc., but that's the style of the moment. Looks very similar to the Infiniti Essence concept from recently, as well.
Yes it looks very Jag XJ, Maserati GT, Rapide, etc., but that's the style of the moment. Looks very similar to the Infiniti Essence concept from recently, as well.
Very similar, or is that just me?nsmith1180 said:
I so hope they make it, I've had the chance to see the rest of the pics now and its stunning. With any other badge we'ed be ordering now, not worrying if they will make it or not.
Any? Really?Like I said, of all the japanese manufacturers, imho Mazda is the most likely one to put something like this in production.
Of course it's going to be toned down, the question is: how much?
Why is it always the same when the rotary is mentioned. Bad fuel economy, put a normal engine in...etc
The rotary for a 1.3 you could consider poor economy, or for a naturally aspirated 1.3 engine 231BHP is amazing. Depends on which figure you want to shout about the most.
Put it this way it has few moving parts to create friction losses and internal heat. Its compact, light, and can run any igniteable fuel. The current renessis 1.3 is to be killed off due to emissions, but the next gen renessis is 1.6L, with direct injection, more torque, and lower emissions.
Because its compact it can be installed low, and right back in the engine bay which means the car designs don't have the ugly front ends that most new cars have to forfeit to meet new pedestrian safety laws.
The rotary is what makes the RX8, and the predessors special.
The rotary for a 1.3 you could consider poor economy, or for a naturally aspirated 1.3 engine 231BHP is amazing. Depends on which figure you want to shout about the most.
Put it this way it has few moving parts to create friction losses and internal heat. Its compact, light, and can run any igniteable fuel. The current renessis 1.3 is to be killed off due to emissions, but the next gen renessis is 1.6L, with direct injection, more torque, and lower emissions.
Because its compact it can be installed low, and right back in the engine bay which means the car designs don't have the ugly front ends that most new cars have to forfeit to meet new pedestrian safety laws.
The rotary is what makes the RX8, and the predessors special.
JontyR said:
ZOLLAR said:
Munter said:
Slightly less aggressive than the Furai.
God i love that car! 
Im lead to believe from one of the engineers that due to a slight cost cutting exercise it had an electrical fire....and burnt to a small pile of gloop
Bit late to this thread, but I was pouring over the pic in evo last night and read that a new 6 is due in 2012. I assume this is a design exercise and some of the 'language' will be used in new models
If they did make a car that looked 80-90% like this they'd be really moving the game on in a big way (for mazda) - sadly I think such a move would be deemed counter productive by the calculator jockeys.
Anyway I love it!
If they did make a car that looked 80-90% like this they'd be really moving the game on in a big way (for mazda) - sadly I think such a move would be deemed counter productive by the calculator jockeys.
Anyway I love it!
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