RE: Clio Cup-Chasing Hardcore Hot Fabia Planned

[thejudderman]

Jez64 said:

cheadle hulme said:

Has anyone remapped these yet - I can't imagine theres much more to come from a 1.4, but still.

I know somebody running 212hp from his mapped Golf, not gone bang yet.

I'd read somewhere that the weak point of these isn't the engine ouput per se, but the torque capabilities of the smaller DSG 'box as fitted to the VRS. I'm not sure what a mapped 1.4TSI puts out, but I'd heard that anything over 200lb/ft of torque is risking reliability issues...

...and at the price of DSG parts I'm not sure I'd dare take the risk

[LongLiveTazio]

ctallchris said:

It's Never going to be a competitor with a turbo engine. One of the best feature of the renault 197's is the engine which is a gem. Although to be honest the entire car is a spectacular package

Funny that, because I much preferred the turbo 1.6 in my Cooper S. The power delivery was great fun and really suited the car. I thought that chances to wring the 197's neck weren't quite so open as in a turbo and it was more relaxing as well (not everyone's cup of tea, mind).

New Fabia VRS has broadly the same spec as a Mini Cooper S but is a few grand cheaper. I was looking at one in the actually rather lovely shade of green you can get it in and I will be sorely tempted to buy one. Finance deals are great too and servicing for 30k/3 years is £99. A great ownership proposition and I think a lot of people will, as before, be embarrassed thinking they have a quicker car than a piddly Skoda Fabia!

Edit: I doubt the DSG box has a problem with above 200lb/ft when it handles 180 in standard form. Not exactly a big margin of error there is there, can't imagine VW doing that. They have been making these boxes for years now.

Edited by LongLiveTazio on Tuesday 31st August 14:11

[Skylinecrazy]

I really like that, very OTT looking!

[smiffie]

I don't see VW building a box with such small margins for an increase of torque. Time will tell...

[birchie]

Honestly, how anyone a fan of piston heads and a true petrol head get interested about this skoda as with all skodas they look absolutly S T ! and this one is a prime example UGH! Ive never commented on PH before but subscribe to news letter and I see this and I must be passionate about it to write this, LOL its C P ! Hardcore Hot Fabia? listen to it LOL whats hardcore and hot about it, 1 its a fabia baaa haa haa ha ah! 2. look at colour o wheels, chav tastic or what, SAD very Sad. Sorry for being soo blunt and honest, very sorry.

[hornetrider]

birchie
2 posts
71 months

You've lurked all this time just for that?!

[sklar]

smiffie said:

I don't see VW building a box with such small margins for an increase of torque. Time will tell...

You're right, they wont - VAG do this all the time at Wörthersee. The Octavia RS+, Golf GTI and Polo Wörthersee, Audi A1, etc etc, oh and don't forget the Q5:


Yes of course, parts of this will be coming to a Q5 near you soon

Its Skoda UK PR department spin.

[Riggers]

sklar said:

smiffie said:

I don't see VW building a box with such small margins for an increase of torque. Time will tell...

You're right, they wont - VAG do this all the time at Wörthersee. The Octavia RS+, Golf GTI and Polo Wörthersee, Audi A1, etc etc, oh and don't forget the Q5:


Yes of course, parts of this will be coming to a Q5 near you soon

Its Skoda UK PR department spin.

I think you misunderstand smiffie's point. He's talking about the gearbox.

And I'm not saying Skoda will build the RS+, but a more hardcore vRS (or at least bits for it) is under serious consideration.

Edited by Riggers on Tuesday 31st August 16:55

[Madderz]

Looks like a reet minger

[BBS-LM]

No performance upgrade, so how is this a Hardcore Fabia. More like marketing fake Hardcore Fabia.

[Wah]

This instead of a Clio Cup!?? Never.

[Balmoral Green]

sportwagen said:

Stevesh said:

sportwagen said:

The fact that - according to the internet - the previous Fabia vRS is The Fastest Car In The World (Evah), this new one should be a riot.

Source

Not only the fastest, but returning 75mpg as well from just a remap and a filter

Steve

You don't really need a remap though, as they all produce well over 200hp as standard from the factory. VW won't let Skoda tell anyone though, it's a VAG hierarchy thing.

Funny thing is, it's all true!

birchie said:

Honestly, how anyone a fan of piston heads and a true petrol head get interested about this skoda as with all skodas they look absolutly S T ! and this one is a prime example UGH! Ive never commented on PH before but subscribe to news letter and I see this and I must be passionate about it to write this, LOL its C P ! Hardcore Hot Fabia? listen to it LOL whats hardcore and hot about it, 1 its a fabia baaa haa haa ha ah! 2. look at colour o wheels, chav tastic or what, SAD very Sad. Sorry for being soo blunt and honest, very sorry.

I am a bit of a vRS fanboy, I am on my second vRS and I have a new one on order. But this man speaks the truth!

They do go well, but brakes and handling are hardly class leading, and they're not exactly lookers are they?

[Big Lebowski]

ctallchris said:

It's Never going to be a competitor with a turbo engine. One of the best feature of the renault 197's is the engine which is a gem. Although to be honest the entire car is a spectacular package

I know which engine (and everything else) I'd rather have after a few years/miles on the clock, and it isn't French, although I do hear that Nicole has aged quite well.

Edited by Big Lebowski on Tuesday 31st August 19:21

[retrorider]

Dear Skoda,You cannot polish a turd.The design of new v old is horrific imho.

[pilchardthecat]

This hideous, FWD, stty-arsed dollop of pustulant dangly clagnuts will almost certainly be driven exclusively by aggressive young cock-ends with something to prove.

I hope they all explode.

[carmonk]

As it has aspirations to be ranked favourably against a classic hatch like the Cup? Don't see it myself but maybe I'll be surprised. I'll certainly be hanging onto my Cup for a while longer!

[300bhp/ton]

Ugly, but I kinda like it...

[Gompo]

It's a shame they cant be bothered to do a 3-door, that's me out of contention straight away.

[blearyeyedboy]

pilchardthecat said:

This hideous, FWD, stty-arsed dollop of pustulant dangly clagnuts will almost certainly be driven exclusively by aggressive young cock-ends with something to prove.

I hope they all explode.

Oh, I don't know...I'm 31 and I hope I don't count as an aggressive young cock-end. I think my Occy vRS's replacement (in a couple of years, funds notwithstanding) will have to be smaller but chuckable and fun... something like this or its VW Polo/Seat Ibiza clones might fit the bill.

Not with that god-awful colour scheme though. I might get one and paint over the yellow bits with Hammerite.

Edited by blearyeyedboy on Tuesday 31st August 23:27

[Hungry Freak]

Give it a mid-mounted V6, I'm sure there's space if you take away the seats. A proper Skoda sleeper