Moose test anyone

[anonymous-user]

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8
[/quote]


Perfectly illustrating the phyisics involved! That car didn't have any significant body roll, and yet it understeered horribly about 5 car widths away from the apex.

As said before, just because it doesnt roll much doesnt mean it's suddenly a tarmac terroist......

[davepoth]

Max_Torque said:

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8


Perfectly illustrating the phyisics involved! That car didn't have any significant body roll, and yet it understeered horribly about 5 car widths away from the apex.

As said before, just because it doesnt roll much doesnt mean it's suddenly a tarmac terroist......

That wasn't understeer. And did you notice the speed?

Edited by davepoth on Sunday 31st October 19:00

[300bhp/ton]

davepoth said:

Max_Torque said:

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8


Perfectly illustrating the phyisics involved! That car didn't have any significant body roll, and yet it understeered horribly about 5 car widths away from the apex.

As said before, just because it doesnt roll much doesnt mean it's suddenly a tarmac terroist......

That wasn't understeer. And did you notice the speed?

Edited by davepoth on Sunday 31st October 19:00

watching it, it looked fast with a very nice 1950's style 4 wheel drift. I certainly wouldn't call it understeer either.

[twazzock]

Beyond Rational said:

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8

That's fking awesome.

[Rob_F]

Very interesting thread. Plus i've now realised I must be cadence steering my clutch all wrong because I've never understeered with that much panache in my life.

Rob

[Mr Dave]

Max_Torque said:

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8

Perfectly illustrating the phyisics involved! That car didn't have any significant body roll, and yet it understeered horribly about 5 car widths away from the apex.

As said before, just because it doesnt roll much doesnt mean it's suddenly a tarmac terroist......

The interesting thing would be what shape ball of crumpled metal a Xantia without that active suspension would have been if it went into that corner at that speed?

[r11co]

Mr Dave said:

The interesting thing would be what shape ball of crumpled metal a Xantia without that active suspension would have been if it went into that corner at that speed?

Yeah. And if your auntie had balls she'd be your uncle.....

[Mr Dave]

r11co said:

Mr Dave said:

The interesting thing would be what shape ball of crumpled metal a Xantia without that active suspension would have been if it went into that corner at that speed?

Yeah. And if your auntie had balls she'd be your uncle.....

What are you trying to say about my uncle Catherine?

[jimmy156]

twazzock said:

Beyond Rational said:

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8

That's fking awesome.

I agree. Why do i suddenly want a Xantia!

[james_gt3rs]

300bhp/ton said:

I certainly wouldn't call it understeer either.

It missed the apex by a mile though.

[Kidders]

james_gt3rs said:

300bhp/ton said:

I certainly wouldn't call it understeer either.

It missed the apex by a mile though.

All the cars fault, obviously.

[300bhp/ton]

james_gt3rs said:

300bhp/ton said:

I certainly wouldn't call it understeer either.

It missed the apex by a mile though.

So how is that understeer?

[james_gt3rs]

300bhp/ton said:

james_gt3rs said:

300bhp/ton said:

I certainly wouldn't call it understeer either.

It missed the apex by a mile though.

So how is that understeer?

Good point.

[morgrp]

davepoth said:

Max_Torque said:

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8


Perfectly illustrating the phyisics involved! That car didn't have any significant body roll, and yet it understeered horribly about 5 car widths away from the apex.

As said before, just because it doesnt roll much doesnt mean it's suddenly a tarmac terroist......

That wasn't understeer. And did you notice the speed?

Edited by davepoth on Sunday 31st October 19:00

Clearly the driver provoked the slide - and may I say what truly AWESOME slide it was too! worthy of Ronin!

[Debaser]

How much more lateral G can a Xantai Activa generate over a standard Xantia?

[mig25_foxbat2003]

Max_Torque said:

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8


Perfectly illustrating the phyisics involved! That car didn't have any significant body roll, and yet it understeered horribly about 5 car widths away from the apex.

As said before, just because it doesnt roll much doesnt mean it's suddenly a tarmac terroist......

Youtube Froggie said:

oui mais trois minutes après il l'a cassée sa xantia (pneu

éclaté et barre de direction tordue) et la piste a été fermée presque trente minutes...

[A-Level Froggie] Yes, but three minutes after that he shunted his Xantia (burst tyre and twisted steering rack) and the track was closed for half an hour... [/quote

Edited by mig25_foxbat2003 on Monday 1st November 17:23

[Kidders]

mig25_foxbat2003 said:

Max_Torque said:

The mighty Xantias cornering prowess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8

Perfectly illustrating the phyisics involved! That car didn't have any significant body roll, and yet it understeered horribly about 5 car widths away from the apex.

As said before, just because it doesnt roll much doesnt mean it's suddenly a tarmac terroist......

Youtube Froggie said:

oui mais trois minutes après il l'a cassée sa xantia (pneu

éclaté et barre de direction tordue) et la piste a été fermée presque trente minutes...

[A-Level Froggie] Yes, but three minutes after that he shunted his Xantia (burst tyre and twisted steering rack) and the track was closed for half an hour...

A crash caused by the car and its design, or a crash caused by a driver exceeding the cars limit?

[anonymous-user]

Kidders said:

A crash caused by the car and its design, or a crash caused by a driver exceeding the cars limit?

eh?? uptill now on this thread i thought we had reached an agreement that because it has "active" suspension an Xantia Activa can easily break the laws of physics, and as the best cornering car ever made, doesn't as such have any limits..............

[anonymous-user]

lol, finaly agreement that an Activa cannot actually fly...... ;-)

[Kidders]

Max_Torque said:

Kidders said:

A crash caused by the car and its design, or a crash caused by a driver exceeding the cars limit?

eh?? uptill now on this thread i thought we had reached an agreement that because it has "active" suspension an Xantia Activa can easily break the laws of physics, and as the best cornering car ever made, doesn't as such have any limits..............

Not sure where you got that idea from. No-one ever said it was the best handling car EVER. What has been said, is thats its cornering and grip capability is better than that of a comparatively sized car, as a result of its Hydractive II and Activa element of its suspension.

You might as well just give up now. Fact remains, the Activa was a very brave and successful in practice design that was too complicated and expensive for mass production. Its unique, and in my opinion, quite special to drive when pushed, and thats why i am getting another, not to outhandle true sports cars like Porsche's, Lotus's etc. Thats not to say i wont have a laugh trying to keep up round corners A large part of it comes down to the driver, and just how big your balls are !