RE: SOTW: BMW 635CSi

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nicknoo

46 posts

167 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Gruber said:
sklar said:
williamp said:
A quick question on these:

Whats the difference between high-line and low-line? I hear a lot of these, but I cannot tell from looking.
I believe the Highline has the leather trimmed 'everything' in the cabin - dash, console, headlining and all over the seats rather than facings only.
Yep - leather everywhere on the highlines. And electric seats. And different bumpers, heavier set without the chrome.

I went for a non-highline intentionally, because I prefer the chrome-bumper look.
The Americans had an even higher spec model called the L6, that included a full leather dash and centre console as well. They are extremely rare in the scale of things.

Kentish

15,169 posts

235 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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300bhp/ton said:
Personally still rank the 635CSI as one of the best looking Beemers, esp in orange biggrin . Certainly think it's more than worthy of SOTW status, even with an automatic gearbox.

In fact, considering the price of 325 e30's and 328 e36's, I'm amazed at how cheap and evidently unloved the 6 Series is confused

Edited by 300bhp/ton on Friday 24th September 09:01
Could not agree more with all of that yes

I used to drive a 1986 635CSi and it was such a great car, looked fabulous in white.

TRUENOSAM

763 posts

171 months

Friday 24th September 2010
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Nice.

I really like the 635 and I nearly bought one until my local specialist told me that they are very expensive to maintain frown

Horsetan

410 posts

208 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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Gruber said:
sklar said:
williamp said:
A quick question on these:

Whats the difference between high-line and low-line? I hear a lot of these, but I cannot tell from looking.
I believe the Highline has the leather trimmed 'everything' in the cabin - dash, console, headlining and all over the seats rather than facings only.
Yep - leather everywhere on the highlines. And electric seats. And different bumpers, heavier set without the chrome.

I went for a non-highline intentionally, because I prefer the chrome-bumper look.
"Highlines" describe the last two years of production, from June 1987 right up to the end of production in 1989 (with the very last of them being registered in the UK in 1990 on "H"-prefix plates). The on-the-road price at the time was about £36,000, with the uprated M635CSi now selling for £43,000+.

The bumpers were changed to the so-called "world bumpers", being thicker and heavier, imitating the US-Federal style. This also applied to the uprated M635CSi, meaning that it was externally indistinguishable from the standard cars. American-spec LHD cars also got the world bumpers for the final two-year runout.

27 sq. metres of cow went into the interiors, so in addition to the all leather seats, there were also leather-covered dashboards and side-panels. Headlamps also changed to the ellipsoid projector-lens type pioneered on the E32 7-Series in 1986/7. Headlamp levelling was standard, as were electrically-powered seats (these are a real bd to remove if the drive motors seize in one position).

The engine was modified slightly, with the M30 B34 being replaced by the M30 B35 (also found in E32 7-Series, and E34 5-Series) - different piston heads and combustion chambers. Power output increased slightly from the original 218PS / 229 lb/ft to 220PS / 232 lb/ft, and the ECU was also changed from the Bosch Motronic "061" to the "179" - the internal chip can be re-mapped fairly easily.

"Highlines" rust just as badly as the chrome-bumpered cars. The body shells were all built by Karmann, after all.

TRUENOSAM said:
Nice.

I really like the 635 and I nearly bought one until my local specialist told me that they are very expensive to maintain frown
For their size, bulk and power, they are not hugely expensive; it depends how often and how the car is driven. A full tank of fuel will cost £60 to £70. Like any old car, if you look after it, it will simply outlast anything else by a distance. My car was built in December 1982; it is still around and still working. Loads of much younger, ever more advanced cars have gone off to the dismantlers in that time.

Oil and filter changes can be done every 3,500 to 4,500 miles. Auto transmission fluid and filter should be changed every 25,000 miles. Brake discs and pads are shared with the E28 535i/M535i, as is much of the floorpan, so suspension is much the same.

The youngest cars are now 21 years old, so you don't get hit for road tax based on engine size or emissions output; all that's charged is £205 for 12 months' tax plus the cost of your MoT and insurance.

You can even do your little bit of tax avoidance: when the car hits 30 years old, re-register it in the Republic of Ireland; it will qualify for the Irish 30-year-plus tax exemption / reduced road tax for classic cars (something which was suspended by ZANU-Labour in the UK for anything built or registered after 1.1.1973), the Irish NCT (MoT-equivalent) requirements are fairly minimal, so all you need to worry about is appropriate insurance.

Edited by Horsetan on Saturday 25th September 00:18

Kawasicki

13,101 posts

236 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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I had a 635csi manual shed with mid early 90's vintage TRX tyres. What a car, if you LOVE graceful 110mph 4 wheel drifts then I recommend one. Here's a pic of the one I had, one of the most fun wet weather cars I've ever driven. Made a nice GT too.







Edited by Kawasicki on Saturday 25th September 08:38

bazking69

8,620 posts

191 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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Best SOTW in a long time.

birdcage

2,841 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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johnpeat said:
Gruber said:
birdcage said:
My other halfs, she hates it!
Really? Why?
Because it's in doom blue?

Otherwise I'm wondering too...
Two kids, she wanted a four door! I bought it for her as a bit of fun as I loved them growing up, it is one of the best looking BMW's in my opinion. Oh well, its garaged and probably not losing bundles...

Save Ferris

2,687 posts

214 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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bazking69 said:
Best SOTW in a long time.
yes

My Dad had an early 635csi (1979 model) when I was a kid, this one in fact!








ian_touring

585 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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Save Ferris said:
bazking69 said:
Best SOTW in a long time.
yes

My Dad had an early 635csi (1979 model) when I was a kid, this one in fact!

I'll have mine in shiny red please. lick

Baked_bean

1,908 posts

193 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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Coming from someone that loves the 635 i have to say that, that particular example does nothing for me. Although it could make a nice project for someone!

80s Matchbox

3,891 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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Baked_bean said:
Coming from someone that loves the 635 i have to say that, that particular example does nothing for me. Although it could make a nice project for someone!
I don't think anyone would buy one of these for a 3 figure sum(yes, 3!), and not expect it to need any work. I think it's a bargain, considering it's MOT length and relative condition.

RemyMartin

6,759 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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prubbert said:
Had this on my desktop for a while......

Doesn't this belong to a PH'er?

(apart form the obvious give away in the windscreen)
Jesus Christ, thats epic!

lance1a

1,337 posts

199 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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This is mine...A 1989 Nogaro silver Motorsport edition. You'd think how everyone raves about these cars I'd have no trouble shifting mine. Especially at the price. Anyway, they are great cars. I fitted 16" alloys with polished lips from a E38.


5driver

4 posts

175 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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these had 218 bhp not the 185 or the 215 that has being said

RV8

1,570 posts

172 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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What a cracking old barge this is. I can't remember when I last saw one in the metal but it's possibly one of my favorite styled two door BMW saloons, the modern coupes look a bit lardy in comparison to the sleek lines of the good old 635 csi.

iantek

277 posts

184 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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Generally, the old six series is lovely. I could even love the gold shed displayed here. Looking at the black M635 earlier on this thread, its hard not to want to sell things to make it mine. Like a kidney.

Vixpy1

42,625 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th September 2010
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My M


Kawasicki

13,101 posts

236 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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Vixpy1 said:
My M

Very very nice

BILL PAYER

526 posts

180 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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A nice machine but lets not delude ourselves it would need a full engine drive train renovation' and the steering suspension sorting not to mention the interior and bodywork which would include a full retrim and a acid dip for the sheetmetal all costing thosands

will261058

1,115 posts

193 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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Love these, and yes parts are expensive especially front wings but I would love to do a full restoration on one and I wouldnt worry about the colour as I would respray it red anyway