RE: SOTW: Montego Turbo

RE: SOTW: Montego Turbo

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Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

24 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2022
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GraspingPie said:
Enjoying using it everyday this week.

Lovely condition. It'll keep on giving too, while technically fked up new stuff has long sincr been scrapped..

J4CKO

41,634 posts

201 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2022
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Draxindustries1 said:
GraspingPie said:
Enjoying using it everyday this week.

Lovely condition. It'll keep on giving too, while technically fked up new stuff has long sincr been scrapped..
Sorry but that is nonsense, plenty of newer stuff will keep going, on average longer than stuff from the eighties. I am a fan of the Montego, owned one and remember it fondly but using it as a counterpoint to the argument of newer cars not lasting is mental, it was terminally rusty by about six years old and the gearbox deposited its internals and a quantity of gear oil from a junction near home to where it coasted to a halt right outside the house ! By contrast our older Fiesta seems pretty much as it did when we got it, no rust, starts and goes.

There are plenty of old cars from 10, 15, 20 years ago still dragging themselves around, the tech in cars isnt inherently unreliable and nowadays they dont rust, a handful of any model surviving just proves that they may survive if locked in a dry garage, completely rebuilt by an enthusiast or were in a very dry climate.

There are tech failures, emissions system failures but by and large, most electronic stuff is understood and can be fixed once its been around a few years and the aftermarket caters for it, there are companies that do nothing else but fix ECUs, which have been around since the eighties now. It can all be replaced by standalone stuff, upgraded and god knows what as well.

This will "keep giving", as long as the diligent and caring owner it has keeps on top of it and doesnt use it when its too wet.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2022
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J4CKO said:
Sorry but that is nonsense, plenty of newer stuff will keep going, on average longer than stuff from the eighties. I am a fan of the Montego, owned one and remember it fondly but using it as a counterpoint to the argument of newer cars not lasting is mental, it was terminally rusty by about six years old and the gearbox deposited its internals and a quantity of gear oil from a junction near home to where it coasted to a halt right outside the house ! By contrast our older Fiesta seems pretty much as it did when we got it, no rust, starts and goes.

There are plenty of old cars from 10, 15, 20 years ago still dragging themselves around, the tech in cars isnt inherently unreliable and nowadays they dont rust, a handful of any model surviving just proves that they may survive if locked in a dry garage, completely rebuilt by an enthusiast or were in a very dry climate.

There are tech failures, emissions system failures but by and large, most electronic stuff is understood and can be fixed once its been around a few years and the aftermarket caters for it, there are companies that do nothing else but fix ECUs, which have been around since the eighties now. It can all be replaced by standalone stuff, upgraded and god knows what as well.

This will "keep giving", as long as the diligent and caring owner it has keeps on top of it and doesnt use it when its too wet.
Totally agree with that.

I daily a 21 year old E46 330ci with 185k on the clock and it drives like a new car, it had needed new parts, mainly rubber parts; for the cooling system, metalastic propshaft bearing, springs and dampers, vanos, rocker cover and filter housing seals and gaskets. Plus two new front wings and rear arches treated for rust, a weak point in a car which is otherwise rust free.

My parents had a Maestro and several Montego Estates, I think a White 2.0 petrol, then a Red 1.6 and latterly a Countryman with the prima diesel and that turquoise metallic blue they made a load of them in, and I clearly remember as a 5yo kid going going around the with my dad, using a screwdriver to get the worst of the rust blisters cleaned back and a dob of touch up paint on them, in what appeared to be an annual ritual of delaying the inevitable.

Yes its easier for the lay person to clean and re-gasket a carburettor than a direct injection fuel system, but it is a hell of a lot easier to replace a MAF or Lamda sensor than to replaced a rotten bulkhead or even replace the inner and outer wings!




Edited by dhutch on Wednesday 3rd August 09:49

TRIUMPHBULLET

701 posts

114 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2022
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I had one nearly 30 years ago, only bad thing I remember was a cv joint going and being given one off a 2 litre, bit of a git realizing the turbo one was different and expensive.
It was very cheap at the time and rusted around the edges so looked scruffy but was solid where it counted, only scrapped when the turbo went bang.
Had a 2.0l estate which was reliable but looked scruffy.
Other than some turbo bits easy to work on and parts were cheap.

RT/M

277 posts

205 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2022
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At the time, it was the fastest 4 door 2 litre production car in the world

Ron240

2,773 posts

120 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2022
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RT/M said:
At the time, it was the fastest 4 door 2 litre production car in the world
I just had a deja vu moment there. biggrin

Sticks.

8,775 posts

252 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2022
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That looks great, and good to see it being used still.

A few things I miss from performance hatehes/saloons back then are 1) a reasonably comfortable ride, and 2) doors designed not to get dinged (see pic), 3) you could use the performance without having to go to supersonic speeds and 4) cars weren't lardy.