RE: Audi S1 On Its Way - With Quattro

[steveb8189]

Baked_bean said:

I swear to god many people on here don't even read the story. the pictures are just pictures of the tribute car shown a few months back, its no indication of what the actual s1 will look like.

+1 Couldn't be bothered saying it though

[anonymous-user]

doogz said:

y2blade said:

are the usual brain dead Audi/VAG/AWD haters here yet?

no?.....good

It looks fantastic and will be one hell of a good road car

Really? you don't think it will be far too heavy for a car that size, with no real feel, due to horrible runflat tyres and jelly like compliance bushes matched with spring and damper rates that are way too high to give it that "sporty Audi" feel, and lots of electrics to stop you having any proper fun? And that it won't look like every other Audi does on the inside?

And i use to own an Audi.

The A1 is one of the lightest cars in the supermini class, lighter than a Mini. The motoring press also say it has a very good ride! And the 'inside of an Audi' is one of the best places to be!

[wab172uk]

FamilyDub said:

The current range-topper is the 1.4 S-Line A1 - it's £18,655.

That'll easily mean an OTR price of £20k+ (or more, knowing VAG's ridiculous pricing a the moment) for any reputed 'S' variant.

Excuse my curtness, but that's stupid money for such a small car.

Also, if this IS to happen, it NEEDS to have a bigger capacity engine - as mentioned in some other posts - such as the 2.0T in 265PS tune.

"Yeah, that's right mum, I've just paid nearly £25k for a 1.4 litre Polo/A1". Pfft.

You haven't seen the pricing of the Mini then?

Small hatchback that is easily specced to over £20k

BMW don't struggle shifting them.

Edited by wab172uk on Thursday 14th October 14:47

[FamilyDub]

wab172uk said:

You haven't seen the pricing of the Mini then?

^^^ Yes, and it is equally as ludicrous.

[ZesPak]

FamilyDub said:

wab172uk said:

You haven't seen the pricing of the Mini then?

^^^ Yes, and it is equally as ludicrous.

As much as I loathe the fugly MINI, I can't see how it's priced "ludicrous", as there are so many on the road?

[teen_cerbera]

wab172uk said:

FamilyDub said:

The current range-topper is the 1.4 S-Line A1 - it's £18,655.

That'll easily mean an OTR price of £20k+ (or more, knowing VAG's ridiculous pricing a the moment) for any reputed 'S' variant.

Excuse my curtness, but that's stupid money for such a small car.

Also, if this IS to happen, it NEEDS to have a bigger capacity engine - as mentioned in some other posts - such as the 2.0T in 265PS tune.

"Yeah, that's right mum, I've just paid nearly £25k for a 1.4 litre Polo/A1". Pfft.

You haven't seen the pricing of the Mini then?

Small hatchback that is easily specced to over £20k

BMW don't struggle shifting them.

Edited by wab172uk on Thursday 14th October 14:47

Correct, JCW is well over £20k, You can even spec a mini to £30k+.

As for the 265bhp+? Nobody believes this is a real life consideration do they? Make it as lightweight as possible (1100kg ish), shed the 4x4 idea and get some fancy front diff like the Focys RS and 220-220bhp should be ample!

[SleeperCell]

vintageracer01 said:

And there will be back in rally?

I dont think you'll ever see Audi in rallying again, far too downmarket for their current brand image.

[BBYeah]

I'd be tempted by a Polo R but not at the likely 25-30k it will cost. And by the time it does come out, a Golf R will have depreciated nicely.

Edited by BBYeah on Thursday 14th October 16:58

[nsmith1180]

My understanding is that the A1 platform is a chopped down A3 so some of the bigger engines should work, but in these days of miniatureisation and the like we wont see it.

If it gets a 1.6T engine, thats the biggest indicator yet that they are looking at WRC. Their build up of the A1, then the Urquattro look and now the S1 idea leads me to believe that we will be seeing a WRC challenger before the end of the year, or one testing in next year at least.

[anonymous-user]

nsmith1180 said:

My understanding is that the A1 platform is a chopped down A3 so some of the bigger engines should work, but in these days of miniatureisation and the like we wont see it.

If it gets a 1.6T engine, thats the biggest indicator yet that they are looking at WRC. Their build up of the A1, then the Urquattro look and now the S1 idea leads me to believe that we will be seeing a WRC challenger before the end of the year, or one testing in next year at least.

The A1 and the A3 have completely different platforms! theA1 is based on same platform as Polo, Fabia and Ibiza. The A3 is the same platform as Golf, Octavia and Leon!

[nsmith1180]

MonkeyMatt said:

nsmith1180 said:

My understanding is that the A1 platform is a chopped down A3 so some of the bigger engines should work, but in these days of miniatureisation and the like we wont see it.

If it gets a 1.6T engine, thats the biggest indicator yet that they are looking at WRC. Their build up of the A1, then the Urquattro look and now the S1 idea leads me to believe that we will be seeing a WRC challenger before the end of the year, or one testing in next year at least.

The A1 and the A3 have completely different platforms! theA1 is based on same platform as Polo, Fabia and Ibiza. The A3 is the same platform as Golf, Octavia and Leon!

Ok, I appear to have crossed my wires, in my defence I am sure I heard it on PH. Im not the idiot, just the Idiot quoting him!

Even though, whats the biggest engine you can squeeze in the front end of the POLO platform then??

[anonymous-user]

nsmith1180 said:

MonkeyMatt said:

nsmith1180 said:

My understanding is that the A1 platform is a chopped down A3 so some of the bigger engines should work, but in these days of miniatureisation and the like we wont see it.

If it gets a 1.6T engine, thats the biggest indicator yet that they are looking at WRC. Their build up of the A1, then the Urquattro look and now the S1 idea leads me to believe that we will be seeing a WRC challenger before the end of the year, or one testing in next year at least.

The A1 and the A3 have completely different platforms! theA1 is based on same platform as Polo, Fabia and Ibiza. The A3 is the same platform as Golf, Octavia and Leon!

Ok, I appear to have crossed my wires, in my defence I am sure I heard it on PH. Im not the idiot, just the Idiot quoting him!

Even though, whats the biggest engine you can squeeze in the front end of the POLO platform then??

largest Petrol so far is the 1.6 and largest diesel in the 2.0, both in the Ibiza.

[nsmith1180]

MonkeyMatt said:

nsmith1180 said:

MonkeyMatt said:

nsmith1180 said:

My understanding is that the A1 platform is a chopped down A3 so some of the bigger engines should work, but in these days of miniatureisation and the like we wont see it.

If it gets a 1.6T engine, thats the biggest indicator yet that they are looking at WRC. Their build up of the A1, then the Urquattro look and now the S1 idea leads me to believe that we will be seeing a WRC challenger before the end of the year, or one testing in next year at least.

The A1 and the A3 have completely different platforms! theA1 is based on same platform as Polo, Fabia and Ibiza. The A3 is the same platform as Golf, Octavia and Leon!

Ok, I appear to have crossed my wires, in my defence I am sure I heard it on PH. Im not the idiot, just the Idiot quoting him!

Even though, whats the biggest engine you can squeeze in the front end of the POLO platform then??

largest Petrol so far is the 1.6 and largest diesel in the 2.0, both in the Ibiza.

So there is room for something interesting then.

[anonymous-user]

I think the 1.8 TFSi engine might do the trick! not to big and heavy and should easily be capable of 200-250 bhp! would be a lot like the first gen S3!

[va1o]

Haven't the Polo R rumours been done a couple of times before now, and denied?

[va1o]

nsmith1180 said:

My understanding is that the A1 platform is a chopped down A3 so some of the bigger engines should work, but in these days of miniatureisation and the like we wont see it.

Not really, its based on the PQ25 platform, which is a development of the PQ24 platform that underpinned the old Polo, Ibiza and Fabia. The A3 and Golf etc use the PQ35 which is larger and more advanced.

nsmith1180 said:

If it gets a 1.6T engine, thats the biggest indicator yet that they are looking at WRC.

A 1.6T has been suggested before, but it just seems unlikely given the current VAG engine range is all fairly new and there are no longer any 1.6 petrols so would they really make a whole new one just for one car?

[rickyquicky]

I'd love to see them put a 200bhp+ 2.0tdi engine in this, Audi (with their diesel LM cars etc) should break the mould and make one of their 'hot' range toppers a quick oil burner IMO.

[MonteV]

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[nsmith1180]

va1o said:

nsmith1180 said:

My understanding is that the A1 platform is a chopped down A3 so some of the bigger engines should work, but in these days of miniatureisation and the like we wont see it.

Not really, its based on the PQ25 platform, which is a development of the PQ24 platform that underpinned the old Polo, Ibiza and Fabia. The A3 and Golf etc use the PQ35 which is larger and more advanced.

nsmith1180 said:

If it gets a 1.6T engine, thats the biggest indicator yet that they are looking at WRC.

A 1.6T has been suggested before, but it just seems unlikely given the current VAG engine range is all fairly new and there are no longer any 1.6 petrols so would they really make a whole new one just for one car?

Could they not bore out the 1.4?? The WRC regs are 2.0 or 1.6 aint they?

[ian2144]

rickyquicky said:

I'd love to see them put a 200bhp+ 2.0tdi engine in this, Audi (with their diesel LM cars etc) should break the mould and make one of their 'hot' range toppers a quick oil burner IMO.

Skoda did the warm hatch diesel thing, with the Fabia vRS a few years back. No reason why Audi cant do something similar with the A1/S1.