Pirelli P6000, Are they really that rubbish?
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I've got them on the XJ6 at the moment and I won't be using them again.
They're great in the dry, and you can throw it around. Other than that they are useless. Wet weather feels like ice, its not fun to slither about on a hill start in standing traffic in the wet.
The wear is awful too, this set have lasted 7500 miles. Rears are nearly down to the indicators, and the fronts already are with bald patches appearing on the outside edge where the damn thing has being understeering.
Needless to say it's awaiting new tyres. I'm giving Falkens a shot this time around as tehy were pretty good on my XJ12 a few years back.
Regards,
Ric
They're great in the dry, and you can throw it around. Other than that they are useless. Wet weather feels like ice, its not fun to slither about on a hill start in standing traffic in the wet.
The wear is awful too, this set have lasted 7500 miles. Rears are nearly down to the indicators, and the fronts already are with bald patches appearing on the outside edge where the damn thing has being understeering.
Needless to say it's awaiting new tyres. I'm giving Falkens a shot this time around as tehy were pretty good on my XJ12 a few years back.
Regards,
Ric
They're fine when new. Maybe slightly less grip than softer tyres, but they're predictable.
When they're old, or down to about 3mm and it's a bit greasy out they can be quite interesting. The cheap hatchback I had them on could produce comically wild lift off oversteer at low speeds once the rears went a bit hard and it was damp.
They're often dirt cheap, and last ages, just swap them sooner than you would with most. Maybe a false economy when you look at it that way.
When they're old, or down to about 3mm and it's a bit greasy out they can be quite interesting. The cheap hatchback I had them on could produce comically wild lift off oversteer at low speeds once the rears went a bit hard and it was damp.
They're often dirt cheap, and last ages, just swap them sooner than you would with most. Maybe a false economy when you look at it that way.
Been using them on various cars for years now - they're my generally preferred choice. (Has to be said, they've always been on relatively heavy saloon cars)
Haven't experienced any issues with them at all.
Seems like there's a lot of bandwagon jumping going on whenever they're mentioned.
Haven't experienced any issues with them at all.
Seems like there's a lot of bandwagon jumping going on whenever they're mentioned.
I'm another who had them on a Puma, found them absolutely shocking things. The car had Chingchongs or some s
t on the front when I bought it and the Pirellis on the rear. Oddly enough the front seemed to have more grip, the car was very tail-happy in greasy conditions. And yes, I'm aware it's a FWD car... for me it just highlighted how utterly guff the Pirellis were.
t on the front when I bought it and the Pirellis on the rear. Oddly enough the front seemed to have more grip, the car was very tail-happy in greasy conditions. And yes, I'm aware it's a FWD car... for me it just highlighted how utterly guff the Pirellis were. Major Fallout said:
On a heavy saloon car they are fine, on anything less than one and a half ton they are useless.
IMHO
Agreed. Work well on Jaguars and Zafiras, work really badly on lighter stuff.IMHO
Had them factory fitted on a Corsa, nearly put me off the road twice, so replaced them by 6000 miles with a set of Bridgestones which were faultless. The P6000 on the 1100kg Corsa were shockingly bad.
Fabiao said:
Been using them on various cars for years now - they're my generally preferred choice. (Has to be said, they've always been on relatively heavy saloon cars)
Haven't experienced any issues with them at all.
Seems like there's a lot of bandwagon jumping going on whenever they're mentioned.
^ I'll jump on your bandwagon Haven't experienced any issues with them at all.
Seems like there's a lot of bandwagon jumping going on whenever they're mentioned.
They aren't brilliant but they are OK on the big saloons I have had with them fitted
Prefer a uniroyal or conti as a general rule but unless you are 10/10ths you'd find it hard to tell the difference between any of them
Only tyres I have ever replaced because they were (IMO) dangerous was a set of Michelin MXV's on a Senator I'd just purchased - had two totally un provoked moments - one of which left me facing the wrong way on a dual carraigeway and I went straight to the nearest tyre place and had them replaced - found out later looking at the service document/history that they'd done best part of 20K miles and they still looked a reasonable tread depth so they were obviously a very hard compound and me not likey.......
If you want a really nasty tyre from a big name manufacturer, you need to try Goodyear NCT3s. They're shocking - but now discontinued, I believe.
Are those who criticise the P6000 sure they haven't been driving around on P600s? - they're pretty poor, as I found out when I had them fitted under the belief they'd be 'almost' as good as the P6000s I was replacing.
Are those who criticise the P6000 sure they haven't been driving around on P600s? - they're pretty poor, as I found out when I had them fitted under the belief they'd be 'almost' as good as the P6000s I was replacing.
Fabiao said:
If you want a really nasty tyre from a big name manufacturer, you need to try Goodyear NCT3s. They're shocking - but now discontinued, I believe.
Now I had NCT's and NCT2's for years on Carltons and never found them a problem but when I was forced due to NCT2's being discontinued I had one set of NCT3's before I went elsewhere as they really weren't as good as the previous versions.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff