RE: Japanese Car Makers Back 200mph Eliica EV
Discussion
briers said:
Blue Meanie said:
Erm... The car in the picture isn't the news... They are investing for the 4 wheeled 200 mile range version supposedly unveiled in January. The 4 second, 200 mph car is simply, I would imagine, a testbed experiment attention grabber thingy. Come on PH, let's have some proper journalism!
I don't care how many wheel's it has, or how fast it can go. The fact is, it can only do 200 miles of the most economical driving to a charge and it isn't affordable. If the prius isn't affordable after what 6 years? then what's the point. It's still a dull, awful looking, souless piece of rubbish that's expensive to manufacturer. People who buy these types of electric cars must only do short runs because of the charge range. Therefore i reckon there's a big argument to question the actual co2 savings over a 3 year ownership when you consider the manufacturing costs, R&D and charging/maintenance.
I love new technology and i love inventions but i just see the current crop of electric hybrids as the modern day concord. Interesting on paper, too expensive and too many practical imperfections in reality.
As for your nonsense about the Prius, whilst it might not be the most exciting car on the road, it offers cost savings in the thousands to people who buy them, especially people who run them as company cars. It's no wonder you see so many of them on the roads.
There's some vids where they "race it" against a 911 turbo, and then get all excited because it's faster.... er, for that price they could have at least lined it up against a Veyron..........
tbh, i kinda fail to see whats "new" about it:
chassis: steel spaceframe (not exactly cutting edge)
drive train: wheel motors, or more acurately, socking great AC motors that are bolted to the uprights, who know's what the unsprung mass is??
Powerpack: as far as i can tell a "conventional" LiPo battery cell system
Transmission: lots of inverters (1 per wheel), maybe something clever going on here, and obviously could support torque vectoring per wheel, but thats not really very new either.
tbh, i kinda fail to see whats "new" about it:
chassis: steel spaceframe (not exactly cutting edge)
drive train: wheel motors, or more acurately, socking great AC motors that are bolted to the uprights, who know's what the unsprung mass is??
Powerpack: as far as i can tell a "conventional" LiPo battery cell system
Transmission: lots of inverters (1 per wheel), maybe something clever going on here, and obviously could support torque vectoring per wheel, but thats not really very new either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7zHcvDPxYU
Wow so it's 3 years old already, surely must have something ready by now? And hopefully looking a lot better than this mess!
Wow so it's 3 years old already, surely must have something ready by now? And hopefully looking a lot better than this mess!
Hungry Freak said:
Making EVS look like they came from a manga is an easy way to make them cool. Though to be fair, I actually prefer Eliica's predecessor, KAZ
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93...
Be honest, this or a Zafira?
Or you mean that or a bus! That's soo much cooler!!http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93...
Be honest, this or a Zafira?
Mr Gear said:
What?! The article says it's projected price would be £15k.
So they are going to sell them to the public at cost? Interesting..... Add marketing, logistics, dealer cut, manufacturing mark up, UK price adjustments etc and the price no longer competes with a corsa.
Makes me wonder if they are investing in a new technology/invention or way of delivering electric engine power.
briers said:
Mr Gear said:
What?! The article says it's projected price would be £15k.
So they are going to sell them to the public at cost? Interesting..... Add marketing, logistics, dealer cut, manufacturing mark up, UK price adjustments etc and the price no longer competes with a corsa.
Makes me wonder if they are investing in a new technology/invention or way of delivering electric engine power.
The nissan leaf for example...
£28k on the road.
for the driving i do ( 20k pa )
ill need to own it for 10 bloody years before i regain my capital expenditure by way of fuel savings...
and i doubt the battery will last that long!! maybe 4 year lifespan.
current crop just dont stack up financially
hopefully this will be a game changer
£28k on the road.
for the driving i do ( 20k pa )
ill need to own it for 10 bloody years before i regain my capital expenditure by way of fuel savings...
and i doubt the battery will last that long!! maybe 4 year lifespan.
current crop just dont stack up financially
hopefully this will be a game changer
ks doesn't stop, I'm going to hunt down car designers and nail their feet to the floor...mat205125 said:
Hungry Freak said:
Making EVS look like they came from a manga is an easy way to make them cool. Though to be fair, I actually prefer Eliica's predecessor, KAZ
Be honest, this or a Zafira?
I really want one of those!!!!!!!!!!! Be honest, this or a Zafira?
annodomini2 said:
mat205125 said:
Hungry Freak said:
Making EVS look like they came from a manga is an easy way to make them cool. Though to be fair, I actually prefer Eliica's predecessor, KAZ
Be honest, this or a Zafira?
I really want one of those!!!!!!!!!!! Be honest, this or a Zafira?
Exactly what i was thinking!
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