RE: PH Fleet: SEAT Leon Cupra R

[esvcg]

Porsche997C4S said:

Looks very nice from the back and love the seats!

ditto, love the seats also. They really lift the interior imo

[nova1300]

i have been driving a new cupra r for just over 3 months now, and i love the way we get some idiot opinions from contributors who have never driven one ! the build quality is excellent, the power is excellent, my local garage Droitwich Seat, look after me and the car like a VIP, i could not ask for more ! as for residual values, what facts are you basing your biased opinions ? my Seat's have always had good trade in values.

[blearyeyedboy]

Madderz80 said:

The only one slight problem? It's a Seat...

That's what everyone said about my Octavia vRS. Then I gave them a lift in it. I've won a lot of converts.

And you'd be surprised how few people give a stuff about the badge. My favourite quote from a girl I was dating was "Ooh, I like your BMW!"

People who don't know about cars won't care and people who do know will respect you for choosing the kit and not the badge. Buy the best kit you can, drive it with a big grin on your face and bugger what anyone else thinks.

Mind you, first thing I'd do if I bought that Seat would be to rip out those f***ing engine noise speakers.

Edited by blearyeyedboy on Thursday 2nd December 19:11

[Court Jester]

I'm in the nothing wrong with SEAT camp. Had an old shape Cupra R. Absolutely fantastic bit of kit, hard ride - which I loved and wife hated, but handled brilliantly, was fast and sounded great (without the need for silly speakers).

Unfortunately some scally broke into my house and stole the keys and car one night. Went to a BMW after that and for the badge snobs there is definately no benefit. Higher purchase and running costs and more depreciation on the BMW. Personally I would take the SEAT and an extra holiday any day.

As for dealer service my experience is that they are some of the best dealers I have come across - try Roy at Croyde Motors and you won't be disappointed.

[AndrewJB]

I own a 2008 Leon FR TDI and am admin on well a leon owners forum so my answer will be biased


But SEAT UK invited me and a few other admins for the release day for the alhambra recently and i spent the whole day driving the Matt Black LCR instead of testing what we where there for,As said the Electronic noise in cabin isnt a joke its really there. The Facelift leons have a far superior build quality to the pre-facelift ones (ie mine)but....even tho i am a Seat fan i still fail to see why i should spent the extra money on a "R" rather than buying a normal Cupra,IMHO buy a cupra and Spend the extra money on a LSD and other Stage 2+ Mods

[BBS-LM]

sootyrumble said:

A deceptively rapid car evo did a test with the Focus RS, Megane 250, and Golf and the Leon trounced all of them quite convincingly which they tried to disqualify evben though it highest terminal speeds and fastest lap times

I have just read the Evo test and the only thing the Leon did was go fast in a straight line, and then get praised for its engine, I found it funny that the Ford RS is underpowered by 30-Bhp, FFS that allot of power to disappear considering the car is supposed to be 300-Bhp.

[jontbone]

As for dealer service my experience is that they are some of the best dealers I have come across - try Roy at Croyde Motors and you won't be disappointed.
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I've found Blade SEAT in Bristol to be very good also

[collateral]

imo there's a huge difference between piping actual engine noise into the cabin and tragically playing some stupid sound effect

[HereBeMonsters]

So if you get a crack in your exhaust manifold in one of these cars with a "noise pipe" then it's going to pump poisonous gas directly into the cabin?

Sounds like a great idea.

[Leicesterdave]

Does make me laugh!

£30-35k on an Audi? Crazy. Same thing for a VW.

SEAT does it for much cheaper. A SEAT? Wouldn't spend £25k on one!

[adycav]

I'm quite a fan of fast SEATs really.

My first 'fast' car was the earlier Leon Cupra R, a slightly tatty 210hp model in Platinum. I really liked that car.

I also like the older Ibiza Cupras - I'm half considering getting a diesel one (160hp!) to use for work/shopping etc and keep my 993 tucked up in the warm.

However I'm not keen on this model Cupra R. I don't like the quasi-MPV stylng, the interior quality has taken a drop since the Mk1 and despite being cheaper than the VW/Audis with similar power it's not the conspicuous bargain that the Mk1 was.

I'd like to see an Octavia with this engine (vRS+?), I prefer the styling, suspect the interior would be of a nicer quality and it would probably be quite a bit cheaper.

[sc4589]

exceed said:

Is there a video out of this feature? I'd at least be interested to see/hear it myself... Don't agree with it however!

Search for 'SoundRacer' on YouTube and you'll get some idea. Pathetic just about covers it. Nothing more depressing than seeing a Seat Altea TDi heading towards the horizon quite slowly with the soundtrack of a (synthesised) screaming V8/V10...

EDIT: Oh, and that Leon is just gorgeous. Those seats... Christ... not bloody bad at all.

Edited by sc4589 on Friday 3rd December 11:43

[RacingPete]

I think I may need to clarify the sound enhancements here.

It is an enhancement to the actual engine sound rather than just making it up like a v8 soundracer tool. More like sticking a vocoder on the engine and sending it through to the cabin.

For those that want more info on this I will find out how it actually works from the SEAT engineers.

[Yorkshirepud]

Prefer my Mk1 LCR still, hoping the Mk3 will look and perform better.

As for badge snobs, I'd rather own a SEAT than a VW which all look boooooring. Except the Scirocco.

[Vidal Baboon]

Nice addition to the fleet. I never liked the engine note- or lack of it.

One thing that will be worth it is a remap. I think SEAT will honour REVO remaps if they fit it for you

The TTS/S3/Cupra/Cupra R/Ed30 engine has bags of potential and has to be one of the most tuneable engines available today.

[mainaman]

Vidal Baboon said:

Nice addition to the fleet. I never liked the engine note- or lack of it.

One thing that will be worth it is a remap. I think SEAT will honour REVO remaps if they fit it for you

The TTS/S3/Cupra/Cupra R/Ed30 engine has bags of potential and has to be one of the most tuneable engines available today.

Yes,and can be tuned to over 350 BHP on standard internals.The Volvo 5 pot can't make more than that.

[J500ANT]

Me likes my new SEAT Leon FR CR TDI DSG a lot. It's the facelift model so the ride on 18s isn't so bad. Very good service from Neil Lake @ Swindon Motorpark too.

Now, if only they did a CupraR with a DSG box for those of us who need only 2 pedals.....

[geofflowe]

Had a SEAT Ibiza FR TDi which with a REVO map was pretty rapid. Sold that and was tempted by a Fiesta 1.6 TDCI which I had mapped to a whole 122 BHP but it was just too weak still. Shame, as the car looked nice and with some decent power would have been nice. Have now gone back to SEAT with a Leon FR TDi 170 CR which is planets ahead of the Ford in terms of build quality (and power of course). Won't be going back to Ford anytime soon - quite like VAG stuff for the time being (and Ferrari's of coure)!!

[Hoygo]

This is the cheapest Hot hatch and the best choice you can get from VAG.
3K cheaper from Scirocco R,5K cheaper from Golf R and has the same engine and the same build quality as well.But i would still take the Megane 250 thought ,no one can match it for handling and its the most fun hot hatch you can buy.

[Iam Keyser Soze]

Ive just been looking at these on Autotrader with delivery mileage for around £21k.
Bargain if you ask me.