Vauxhall Insignia

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y2blade

56,129 posts

216 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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loko said:
i had my new insignia for 4 days before i swapped it for an 18 month old audi, it was without doubt the worst car i have ever had the misfortune to own
eek that has got to be a record!

Teebs

4,412 posts

216 months

Monday 7th February 2011
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I'm just about to have the 4th set of rear brake pads and discs fitted in 77,000. Well, they will be fitted when Vauxhall and the lease company stop fighting over who's fault it is.

Useless!

noel123

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8 posts

160 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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I address this to fellow Vauxhall Insignia owners who have experienced low mileage clutch failure. After several months of debate?, I have received a cheque for the sum of £1642-19 plus £100-00 court costs. In point of fact, this case was settled prior to the hearing.
For those readers not familiar with the background details, my pre reg Insignia clutch burnt out at 3,800 miles. It was purchased through the Network Q group which claimed to underwrite just this sort of problem. In my case they refused stating that it was a case of driver error. I appealed to both the MD and GM Vauxhall UK at Griffin House assuming that there was a misunderstanding of the situation. Apparently not, their decision stood. Their position appeared to be that the vehicle was covered under a new car warranty which, while covering the dual mass flywheel, will not cover the clutch plate. I found this unacceptable and decided to investigate the matter in greater detail.
After several weeks of research, I had compiled a file which I felt would require a legal response from the company to the challenge of its apparently general defence of “driver error” in these cases.
After submitting my argument for review to a solicitor, two barristers and three highly qualified automotive engineers, the professional opinion was that no independent examination of the situation of the case would conclude that Vauxhall was being reasonable. Consequently, it was decided to challenge the decision on two counts; breach of contract and, under the Sale of Goods Act, fitness for purpose.
It has been a source of regret that, at the age of sixty six, I have been forced into the position of having to undergo an experience which should have been resolved through the application of common sense and goodwill by Vauxhall. Perhaps however, the upside may be that others in my situation may view this as an object lesson on survival in a world where, unfortunately, corporate profit is placed more highly than respect for the individual.


POORCARDEALER

8,526 posts

242 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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noel123 said:
I address this to fellow Vauxhall Insignia owners who have experienced low mileage clutch failure. After several months of debate?, I have received a cheque for the sum of £1642-19 plus £100-00 court costs. In point of fact, this case was settled prior to the hearing.
For those readers not familiar with the background details, my pre reg Insignia clutch burnt out at 3,800 miles. It was purchased through the Network Q group which claimed to underwrite just this sort of problem. In my case they refused stating that it was a case of driver error. I appealed to both the MD and GM Vauxhall UK at Griffin House assuming that there was a misunderstanding of the situation. Apparently not, their decision stood. Their position appeared to be that the vehicle was covered under a new car warranty which, while covering the dual mass flywheel, will not cover the clutch plate. I found this unacceptable and decided to investigate the matter in greater detail.
After several weeks of research, I had compiled a file which I felt would require a legal response from the company to the challenge of its apparently general defence of “driver error” in these cases.
After submitting my argument for review to a solicitor, two barristers and three highly qualified automotive engineers, the professional opinion was that no independent examination of the situation of the case would conclude that Vauxhall was being reasonable. Consequently, it was decided to challenge the decision on two counts; breach of contract and, under the Sale of Goods Act, fitness for purpose.
It has been a source of regret that, at the age of sixty six, I have been forced into the position of having to undergo an experience which should have been resolved through the application of common sense and goodwill by Vauxhall. Perhaps however, the upside may be that others in my situation may view this as an object lesson on survival in a world where, unfortunately, corporate profit is placed more highly than respect for the individual.
Well done for standing your ground....did you recover all your legal costs?

sday12

5,053 posts

212 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Well done to you Sir.smile

Shame on you Vauxhall. furious

noel123

Original Poster:

8 posts

160 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Recovered Court cost of £100. Small Claims does not award other costs (except interest). In my case, all costs were free through contacts and friends in the legal and technical professions.

Vulgar LS2

1,785 posts

184 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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bow well done clap

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

212 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Good result. It's interesting in this little world of the internet how quickly this story of yours will be taken up and used by others as another factor to weigh up in buying a second hand Vauxhall.


Vauxhall Network Q: £1600 to separate reality from friction.


A good reason not to trust a single word of their warranty. What a silly exercise in customer relations. It's a shame you had to go to such efforts to prove your case but well done you.

Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Vulgar LS2 said:
bow well done clap
+1, top effort there chap smile

eldar

21,801 posts

197 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Nice onesmile

What actually was wrong with the clutch?

daveenty

2,358 posts

211 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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drivin_me_nuts said:
Good result. It's interesting in this little world of the internet how quickly this story of yours will be taken up and used by others as another factor to weigh up in buying a second hand Vauxhall.


Vauxhall Network Q: £1600 to separate reality from friction.


A good reason not to trust a single word of their warranty. What a silly exercise in customer relations. It's a shame you had to go to such efforts to prove your case but well done you.
I spotted that smile

ETA: Well done OP

grenpayne

1,988 posts

163 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Great news, well done for sticking to your guns!

I've had several Vauxhalls, but only because a member of the family was a sales manager and I got them very, very cheaply. I can't say I'll have another though and your experience just confirms it!

MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Well done for standing your ground. I'm sure they were hoping that you'd just 'go away.

What was the conclusion of your engineer as to the early failure of the clutch?

Blue Oval84

5,276 posts

162 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Congratulations and well done! biggrin

Wacky Racer

38,188 posts

248 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Nice to hear it all turned out well in the end and you didn't end up clutching at straws.

Well done....thumbup


Jazzer77

1,533 posts

195 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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After all your hard work a nice result.

soad

32,914 posts

177 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Good to hear! thumbup

Lets Torque

10,974 posts

158 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Glad you got the result you deserved. clap

paddyhasneeds

51,423 posts

211 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Fabulous smile

I hope someone at Vauxhall is reading this. I wonder if £1600 is worth the bad press, you know the old phrase about how a happy customer only tells a couple of people but an unhappy customer tells the entire fking internet biggrin

Spitfire2

1,919 posts

187 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Well done smile

Can you share the observations of your engineer who looked at the clutch.

I was all set to tick the Insignia box for my next company car (due within weeks) but for a variety of reasons including stuff read on this forum (Clutch worries being one of them) went for a Mondeo instead (163bhp Titanium).

However interested all the same in what I *might* have been in for.