Vauxhall Insignia
Discussion
Shame to see a few people having problems with these. I hire cars quite often, and usually get Mercs. Recently a mate got an Insignia from Enterprise and I have to say I was pretty impressed. I've since hired one, done 500 miles in it and despite really not being a fan of Vauxhalls in general, it struck me as being a pretty good car.
Stu R said:
Shame to see a few people having problems with these. I hire cars quite often, and usually get Mercs. Recently a mate got an Insignia from Enterprise and I have to say I was pretty impressed. I've since hired one, done 500 miles in it and despite really not being a fan of Vauxhalls in general, it struck me as being a pretty good car.
I'm hoping at 92,000 miles its a terminal problem. I'm due a new car soon, so they might let me order early.Teebs said:
Stu R said:
Shame to see a few people having problems with these. I hire cars quite often, and usually get Mercs. Recently a mate got an Insignia from Enterprise and I have to say I was pretty impressed. I've since hired one, done 500 miles in it and despite really not being a fan of Vauxhalls in general, it struck me as being a pretty good car.
I'm hoping at 92,000 miles its a terminal problem. I'm due a new car soon, so they might let me order early.
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Work in a garage that deals with a lot of Insignias from lease companies.
The only way i can describe it is they must be made in two differant factories!! the build quality differances from one car to another are extreme to say the least.
First Insignia i drove was truely awful noisey pulled rattled pos car had less than 100 miles on it!!
Others i have driven have been fine although the mondeos drive better imho.
We have done clutches at low miles & rear discs & pads wear unevenly & dont last long, also front tyre wear can be horrendous & the tyres are far from cheap!!
Also had an 08 Astra as a company car 2 coil packs & an engine & BCM in 16k apparently the engine failure was my fault somehow!!!! the car belonged to Lex vehicle leaseing & when this was pointed out new engine was fitted two days later with no other questions
The only way i can describe it is they must be made in two differant factories!! the build quality differances from one car to another are extreme to say the least.
First Insignia i drove was truely awful noisey pulled rattled pos car had less than 100 miles on it!!
Others i have driven have been fine although the mondeos drive better imho.
We have done clutches at low miles & rear discs & pads wear unevenly & dont last long, also front tyre wear can be horrendous & the tyres are far from cheap!!
Also had an 08 Astra as a company car 2 coil packs & an engine & BCM in 16k apparently the engine failure was my fault somehow!!!! the car belonged to Lex vehicle leaseing & when this was pointed out new engine was fitted two days later with no other questions
Edited by neiljohnson on Wednesday 20th July 08:20
Astras also had issues with clutches due to poor quality clutch lining causing kangarooing on cold/damp mornings.
They did extend the warranty on the Clutch to 18k miles however my car had done quite a bit more than that when it presented the problem.
See here for someone who eventually got it fixed.
http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread....
I ended up swapping it in for a Jap car instead, won't go near Vauxhall again (except maybe a VX220)
They did extend the warranty on the Clutch to 18k miles however my car had done quite a bit more than that when it presented the problem.
See here for someone who eventually got it fixed.
http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread....
I ended up swapping it in for a Jap car instead, won't go near Vauxhall again (except maybe a VX220)
neiljohnson said:
Work in a garage that deals with a lot of Insignias from lease companies.
The only way i can describe it is they must be made in two differant factories!! the build quality differances from one car to another are extreme to say the least.
First Insignia i drove was truely awful noisey pulled rattled pos car had less than 100 miles on it!!
Others i have driven have been fine although the mondeos drive better imho.
We have done clutches at low miles & rear discs & pads wear unevenly & dont last long, also front tyre wear can be horrendous & the tyres are far from cheap!!
Also had an 08 Astra as a company car 2 coil packs & an engine & BCM in 16k apparently the engine failure was my fault somehow!!!! the car belonged to Lex vehicle leaseing & when this was pointed out new engine was fitted two days later with no other questions
Mine was one of the 1st customer cars in the country (Jan 2009). Front tyre wear is very tyre specific, some tyres are lasting 3x other ones. I had the rear pad problem that took them 3 attempts to fix (sorted now).The only way i can describe it is they must be made in two differant factories!! the build quality differances from one car to another are extreme to say the least.
First Insignia i drove was truely awful noisey pulled rattled pos car had less than 100 miles on it!!
Others i have driven have been fine although the mondeos drive better imho.
We have done clutches at low miles & rear discs & pads wear unevenly & dont last long, also front tyre wear can be horrendous & the tyres are far from cheap!!
Also had an 08 Astra as a company car 2 coil packs & an engine & BCM in 16k apparently the engine failure was my fault somehow!!!! the car belonged to Lex vehicle leaseing & when this was pointed out new engine was fitted two days later with no other questions
Edited by neiljohnson on Wednesday 20th July 08:20
I just want rid
Dracoro said:
Would you say these are all related to the stupid handbrake system?
To be honest most of the clutches had either fallen apart or changing due to flywheels letting go causing judder Dont think the handbrake helps much although i have seen cases of premuture clutch wear on cars with traction control, it uses the brakes to help traction which loads the transmisson up this was a lot more apparent after the bad weather.
neiljohnson said:
To be honest most of the clutches had either fallen apart or changing due to flywheels letting go causing judder
Dont think the handbrake helps much although i have seen cases of premuture clutch wear on cars with traction control, it uses the brakes to help traction which loads the transmisson up this was a lot more apparent after the bad weather.
Have you seen any Insignia's eith a gearbox whine, my Dad (trained machanic) thinks that it could be the gearbox bearings? It is very apparent. Dont think the handbrake helps much although i have seen cases of premuture clutch wear on cars with traction control, it uses the brakes to help traction which loads the transmisson up this was a lot more apparent after the bad weather.
This sounds very similar to the problems Mini Cooper S owners are experiencing with premature clutch failure.
The consensus of opinion (tinternet obviously) is that it is a design fault in the Dual Mass Flywheel that causes the premature clutch plate wear.
BMW have been batting the problem back as driver error for ages.
Someone needs to follow the OPs lead.
The consensus of opinion (tinternet obviously) is that it is a design fault in the Dual Mass Flywheel that causes the premature clutch plate wear.
BMW have been batting the problem back as driver error for ages.
Someone needs to follow the OPs lead.
Teebs said:
Have you seen any Insignia's eith a gearbox whine, my Dad (trained machanic) thinks that it could be the gearbox bearings? It is very apparent.
Seen a few but as still under warranty they get sent back to the dealers, its a common fault on the Fiat derived 6 speed box fitted to a lot of Vauxhalls although ive never seen it on a Fiat 
maybe Vx get all the rubbish ones that fail quality control!! 
Sometimes release bearings can cause a whine.
neiljohnson said:
Seen a few but as still under warranty they get sent back to the dealers, its a common fault on the Fiat derived 6 speed box fitted to a lot of Vauxhalls although ive never seen it on a Fiat maybe Vx get all the rubbish ones that fail quality control!! Sometimes release bearings can cause a whine.
Gearbox release bearings
Engine rattle/very very loud knock (sounds directly under the engine cover, looks like it could be burning oil underneath if possible?)
Dead Horn.
In my last few experiences of Vauxhall main dealers, I'm not too confident of a positive outcome
Teebs said:
Release bearings is something that was mentioned. So the garage need to look at:
Gearbox release bearings
Engine rattle/very very loud knock (sounds directly under the engine cover, looks like it could be burning oil underneath if possible?)
Dead Horn.
In my last few experiences of Vauxhall main dealers, I'm not too confident of a positive outcome
Horn may be the squib (bit between steering wheel & column) but could also be Bcm, knock sounds nasty could be a knackered cam which ive seen on the fiat lump at higher mileages (imho high mileage service intervals cant be good for the long life of the engine) oil leak from the oil filter housings are quite common & a 5 minute fix although could be gearbox oil (driveshaft oil seals fail) which may explain the noisey gearbox. Gearbox release bearings
Engine rattle/very very loud knock (sounds directly under the engine cover, looks like it could be burning oil underneath if possible?)
Dead Horn.
In my last few experiences of Vauxhall main dealers, I'm not too confident of a positive outcome
neiljohnson said:
Horn may be the squib (bit between steering wheel & column) but could also be Bcm, knock sounds nasty could be a knackered cam which ive seen on the fiat lump at higher mileages (imho high mileage service intervals cant be good for the long life of the engine) oil leak from the oil filter housings are quite common & a 5 minute fix although could be gearbox oil (driveshaft oil seals fail) which may explain the noisey gearbox.
Thanks for that, appreciate it. It's done 92,000 on long life servicing. The knock noise sounds very much like a Cam (very lumpy and erratic, but appears to drive OK).The 2.0 Insignia diesel is not Fiat based unlike the old 1.9 that was. The earlier Insignias were noted for the engines getting noticably louder and rougher sounding with miles. Thankfully Vauxhall have reacted to this and earlier in the year the engines were significantly altered to reduce this problem and i must say it seems to have been successful so far. As someone on here has already said the brake linings have been amended to address the rapid wear characteristics of earlier vehicles, this too has been cured.
So far i still have not come across frequent flywheel issues yet. The dual mass flywheel has been a problem for all manufacturers for some time. Single mass conversions are now becoming quite popular amongst the aftermarket to stop the issues however these converson have their own drawbacks.
So far i still have not come across frequent flywheel issues yet. The dual mass flywheel has been a problem for all manufacturers for some time. Single mass conversions are now becoming quite popular amongst the aftermarket to stop the issues however these converson have their own drawbacks.
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