RE: Range Rover Sport To The 'Ring
Discussion
HowMuchLonger said:
Is the ring open during febuary? Looking at the website it seems that it is closed until march. If it is open Would anyone fancy a quick trip over?
http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/angebote/driving-experiences/tourist-rides-nordschleife/opening-times-nordschleife.html5,6,12,13,19,20 Feb it should be open according to their calendar
I took my td6 range rover ( with the 23" wheels ) to the ring a few years ago it was the only car i could take at the time and it was superb and cumfy ride and came very handy when a friend stacked it so borrowing a trailer we collected the car and took it back to the hotel and got the parts from a few local places and repaired it in the car park with borrowed tools.
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Edited by B16JUS on Monday 31st January 22:39
LongLiveTazio said:
Firstly, the RR wasn't originally made for the 'landed gentry' and luxury features,
Secondly, the last bit of your post just sounds like outright jealousy.which is why they can afford an RR in the first place? Just a thought.
Wow, well done chap for completely missing the Tongue in cheek riposte to an earlier post. Secondly, the last bit of your post just sounds like outright jealousy.which is why they can afford an RR in the first place? Just a thought.
anything fast said:
sorry to any big fans of these cars, dont get me wrong i know they are fast and capable cars. Its just the styling that offends me and the fact that so many are driven by people who just buy them as a status symbol.
However I do fully accept some will bought by people who appreciate the abilities of the vehicle (although they might be the tiny minority) not how rich it makes you look when you drive down to Ikea..
My riposte was in reference to this post. However I do fully accept some will bought by people who appreciate the abilities of the vehicle (although they might be the tiny minority) not how rich it makes you look when you drive down to Ikea..
Obviously the waitrose reference was lost on you....
anything fast said:
SPOT ON!!
you could take it to the ring and meet up fitty cent, puff daddy, some drug dealers, some 20 years olds who have hired one for a wedding etc etc, or you could buy proper RR and have a proper sports car..
sorry i for one thing these things are utterly vulgar and appeal to footballer types, orange women and people who wear too much gold!
you could take it to the ring and meet up fitty cent, puff daddy, some drug dealers, some 20 years olds who have hired one for a wedding etc etc, or you could buy proper RR and have a proper sports car..
sorry i for one thing these things are utterly vulgar and appeal to footballer types, orange women and people who wear too much gold!
Your last paragraph suggests you might either actually be a rapper (one thing these things... etc) or just be unable to express oneself in written English.
A proper sports car a RR, just buy both, you know you can afford it, unless you still have a Tax Code that is.
retroptvr said:
Your last paragraph suggests you might either actually be a rapper (one thing these things... etc) or just be unable to express oneself in written English.
A proper sports car a RR, just buy both, you know you can afford it, unless you still have a Tax Code that is.
LongLiveTazio said:
Firstly, the RR wasn't originally made for the 'landed gentry' and luxury features, not even more than 3 doors, did not feature for years. At the time it was launched the general idea couldn't have been further from the Silver Shadow in every conceivable way. Secondly, the last bit of your post just sounds like outright jealousy. I would wager that no more RRs are bought with that type of finance than any other comparable prestige marque. There are plenty of S-Classes sat outside 3-bed terraces in dodgy areas of cities, for example. Why someone shopping at Ikea should single them out for being financed up to the hilt is beyond me - perhaps they just want some good old fashioned value for money, which is why they can afford an RR in the first place? Just a thought.
Almost all new cars are enjoyed on hire purchase or lease terms. Nobody buys them anymore. They're too expensive and hardly anybody has cash in those amounts. Those who have don't waste it on new cars. It always amazes me that outside all the s
tty, boring houses on all of the stty, boring housing estates that despoil our land are parked fantastic cars, the kind of cars I certainly couldn't afford to buy, whether outright or on finance. But if people want to live in a st house and drive a great car, that's up to them. I only wish they would drive them a bit more politely.Land Rover's own market analysis is that the majority of Range Rover Sports are "bought" by people who can't really afford them whereas the Range Rover seems to be "bought" by better off customers.
The original Range Rover was marketed as four cars in one. An off road car, an estate car, a luxury car and a sports car. From today's perspective, it is hard to see the original RR as either a luxury or a sports car, but back in the early 1970s, even the fastest and most luxurious cars were slow and spartan.
r129sl said:
Land Rover's own market analysis is that the majority of Range Rover Sports are "bought" by people who can't really afford them whereas the Range Rover seems to be "bought" by better off customers.
The original Range Rover was marketed as four cars in one. An off road car, an estate car, a luxury car and a sports car. From today's perspective, it is hard to see the original RR as either a luxury or a sports car, but back in the early 1970s, even the fastest and most luxurious cars were slow and spartan.
I'd love to see the public market research where LR have criticised their own customers for not being able to 'afford' the cars The original Range Rover was marketed as four cars in one. An off road car, an estate car, a luxury car and a sports car. From today's perspective, it is hard to see the original RR as either a luxury or a sports car, but back in the early 1970s, even the fastest and most luxurious cars were slow and spartan.
As for the latter, I'm sorry but that's a load of rot. 'Luxurious' cars in the '70s were slow and spartan? The P5B was full of leather and wood and made it look positively glacial thanks to higher output and less weight and that was turned out by another arm of the same company. The XJ was widely revered as the best saloon in the world, pick up any magazine from the time and they don't find flaws with it. Only a couple of years after the RR's launch they had V12s in them. Even top-end Triumphs were much better equipped and quicker. This is before even bothering to look at foreign imports.
Feel free to find me Spen King marketing it as a 'sports car'
It sold well because it did loads of things really well and was a novel idea to a public used to buying saloons. The reasons it was loved then are only slightly different to the reasons it is loved now. However, it took years to even bolt extra doors on and it was all bare trim and hose-down vinyl. Luxury cars have been around since almost the dawn of motoring, you're having a laugh if you think that somehow there was a marketplace devoid of coachbuilding, walnut and Connolly in 1970 to go along with big, powerful engines. What a load of rubbish, the Range Rover Sport is just a blinged up Discovery with crude agricultural handling and vague steering. I can't imagine anything more unpleasant to drive around the green hell. It's no where near as good as an X5, if you must have an security blanket SUV. I suspect this a press release to keep the 'sporting' image alive. 8.55 lap no chance. One lap you would fry the brakes hauling up the trouser popping 2500kg.
It's nearly as cringe worthy as the "driven by intelligence" campaign. Ooh this drives like a sports car on a mountain road.
Don't sell youself out Pistonheads stick to your Brand.
It's nearly as cringe worthy as the "driven by intelligence" campaign. Ooh this drives like a sports car on a mountain road.
Don't sell youself out Pistonheads stick to your Brand.
Bogracer said:
What a load of rubbish, the Range Rover Sport is just a blinged up Discovery with crude agricultural handling and vague steering. I can't imagine anything more unpleasant to drive around the green hell. It's no where near as good as an X5
An X5 is just a blingy estate car compromised by being jacked-up, image over substance.A Sport is at least a genuine all-rounder.
RRS_Staffs said:
Interesting post ^^^^^^^^
Do you have a link to the LR market analysis you mentioned?
Cheers
My friend's wife works for them. I rather assumed that just about all RRs and RRSs alike were bought on the never-never by dolts. When you look at the people who climb out of them, it's hard not to come to that conclusion.Do you have a link to the LR market analysis you mentioned?
Cheers
LongLiveTazio said:
Feel free to find me Spen King marketing it as a 'sports car' It sold well because it did loads of things really well and was a novel idea to a public used to buying saloons. The reasons it was loved then are only slightly different to the reasons it is loved now. However, it took years to even bolt extra doors on and it was all bare trim and hose-down vinyl. Luxury cars have been around since almost the dawn of motoring, you're having a laugh if you think that somehow there was a marketplace devoid of coachbuilding, walnut and Connolly in 1970 to go along with big, powerful engines.
I don't suppose CSK was in charge of marketing. The contemporary press ads refer to it as four cars in one: off-road car, estate car, luxury car and sports car. It sold well because it did loads of things really well and was a novel idea to a public used to buying saloons. The reasons it was loved then are only slightly different to the reasons it is loved now. However, it took years to even bolt extra doors on and it was all bare trim and hose-down vinyl. Luxury cars have been around since almost the dawn of motoring, you're having a laugh if you think that somehow there was a marketplace devoid of coachbuilding, walnut and Connolly in 1970 to go along with big, powerful engines. r129sl said:
My friend's wife works for them. I rather assumed that just about all RRs and RRSs alike were bought on the never-never by dolts. When you look at the people who climb out of them, it's hard not to come to that conclusion.
Fair enough I supposeMy friends wife works for a market research company too associated with internet use
Apparently all people with the username 'r129sl' are dolts too
I will try and find a hard copy but suspect I will have as much chance as you doing the same with the document you refer to
Yawn
RRS_Staffs said:
Fair enough I suppose
My friends wife works for a market research company too associated with internet use
Apparently all people with the username 'r129sl' are dolts too
I will try and find a hard copy but suspect I will have as much chance as you doing the same with the document you refer to
Yawn
My friends wife works for a market research company too associated with internet use
Apparently all people with the username 'r129sl' are dolts too
I will try and find a hard copy but suspect I will have as much chance as you doing the same with the document you refer to
Yawn
r129sl said:
My friend's wife works for them. I rather assumed that just about all RRs and RRSs alike were bought on the never-never by dolts. When you look at the people who climb out of them, it's hard not to come to that conclusion.
Nice: playground 'facts', nothing to back up your other wild claims and a host of jealous stereotyping. Hooray for PH!Dammit. Replicing my OHs XC90 with another motor that can carry 2 kids, 2 dogs, plus luggage, and not strand us trying to get to our holiday place in the wilds of North Wales (and the OH likes being up high). RR can't do it - not enough space for kids/dogs/luggage, is stupid wide and doesn't fit in most car parking spaces. The Disco is brilliant, but again ginormous. There's the RRS: interior like an RR = good, enough space for our needs = good, shorter than a disco = good, so it's all sorted, right?
Sadly no, 'cause I'll be losing sleep as a result of being judged harshly by all of those on this board who have infinitely better taste than me. Oh the misery...
Most cars carry stereotypes about their drivers - I've been driving beemers for 15-yrs now so I am clearly a complete knob - that's a given. But really, who on here can judge? If you have ever owned an Impreza, Evo, 911, Skyline/GTR, F360, most 1990-2007 Mercs, a Q7, a Panamera, a Cayenne, any Hyundai, any Kia, most Fords, all Vauxhalls, or the terminal beige-ness that is a VW - you can't say st about anyone elses car/taste. You bought those cars because they met your needs for speed, convenience, space, economy, company car, ego, or whatever - and I can't judge you on that.
But, I really am a t**t for driving so many BMs....
Sadly no, 'cause I'll be losing sleep as a result of being judged harshly by all of those on this board who have infinitely better taste than me. Oh the misery...
Most cars carry stereotypes about their drivers - I've been driving beemers for 15-yrs now so I am clearly a complete knob - that's a given. But really, who on here can judge? If you have ever owned an Impreza, Evo, 911, Skyline/GTR, F360, most 1990-2007 Mercs, a Q7, a Panamera, a Cayenne, any Hyundai, any Kia, most Fords, all Vauxhalls, or the terminal beige-ness that is a VW - you can't say s
t about anyone elses car/taste. You bought those cars because they met your needs for speed, convenience, space, economy, company car, ego, or whatever - and I can't judge you on that.But, I really am a t**t for driving so many BMs....
kbee540 said:
Dammit. Replicing my OHs XC90 with another motor that can carry 2 kids, 2 dogs, plus luggage, and not strand us trying to get to our holiday place in the wilds of North Wales (and the OH likes being up high). RR can't do it - not enough space for kids/dogs/luggage, is stupid wide and doesn't fit in most car parking spaces. The Disco is brilliant, but again ginormous. There's the RRS: interior like an RR = good, enough space for our needs = good, shorter than a disco = good, so it's all sorted, right?
Sadly no, 'cause I'll be losing sleep as a result of being judged harshly by all of those on this board who have infinitely better taste than me. Oh the misery...
Most cars carry stereotypes about their drivers - I've been driving beemers for 15-yrs now so I am clearly a complete knob - that's a given. But really, who on here can judge? If you have ever owned an Impreza, Evo, 911, Skyline/GTR, F360, most 1990-2007 Mercs, a Q7, a Panamera, a Cayenne, any Hyundai, any Kia, most Fords, all Vauxhalls, or the terminal beige-ness that is a VW - you can't say st about anyone elses car/taste. You bought those cars because they met your needs for speed, convenience, space, economy, company car, ego, or whatever - and I can't judge you on that.
But, I really am a t**t for driving so many BMs....
I should add to my own post that if anyone has bought any BMW in the last 10 years for it's looks they you really do need to pay a visit here: www.specsavers.co.ukSadly no, 'cause I'll be losing sleep as a result of being judged harshly by all of those on this board who have infinitely better taste than me. Oh the misery...
Most cars carry stereotypes about their drivers - I've been driving beemers for 15-yrs now so I am clearly a complete knob - that's a given. But really, who on here can judge? If you have ever owned an Impreza, Evo, 911, Skyline/GTR, F360, most 1990-2007 Mercs, a Q7, a Panamera, a Cayenne, any Hyundai, any Kia, most Fords, all Vauxhalls, or the terminal beige-ness that is a VW - you can't say s
t about anyone elses car/taste. You bought those cars because they met your needs for speed, convenience, space, economy, company car, ego, or whatever - and I can't judge you on that.But, I really am a t**t for driving so many BMs....
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