Getting my VW chipped tomorrow
Discussion
With a remap you have to accept that you are putting extra stress on the components involved, and will therefore have to replace/renew more frequently.
My old Saab went from 175bhp to 210bhp with a remap and boost valve. I had to accept that the turbo went from the standard 7-8psi to 18-20psi as a result. It also puts a lot more stress on some components, as illustrated by the gearbox melting.
Take my Octavia VRS. The remap I've purchased for it should give it around 215-220bhp, up from its original 180. However the standard clutch won't take that, hence I've had to get JKM to fit a hybrid solution involving a G60 Corrado flywheel and an uprated Sachs clutch from a Golf V5.
My old Saab went from 175bhp to 210bhp with a remap and boost valve. I had to accept that the turbo went from the standard 7-8psi to 18-20psi as a result. It also puts a lot more stress on some components, as illustrated by the gearbox melting.
Take my Octavia VRS. The remap I've purchased for it should give it around 215-220bhp, up from its original 180. However the standard clutch won't take that, hence I've had to get JKM to fit a hybrid solution involving a G60 Corrado flywheel and an uprated Sachs clutch from a Golf V5.
DannyVTS said:
If I fit the tyres that aren't recommended for my car in the owners manual, will that void my insurance too?
It's a mod too :S
That quite depends on the context. If you crashed a car because of the modification (if, for example, you put something like AO48's on it, and crashed due to a rollover that the original fit tyres would have just slid through, would you expect to still be insured?)It's a mod too :S
So long as they were the right size for the original fit wheels, I suspect most insurance policies have no problem with that.
Fitting different shaped tyres, or other modifications like bigger wheels would, of course, constitute modification.
Fitting replacement tyres isn't a notable performance enhancement in most cases. A remap is.
It's not black and white. All you have to do is ask youself, if you were an insurer, would you want to know about the remap? I know I would, if it were my business, and I suspect you wouldn't ask them because you know they are going to up your premium because of it. In some cases they just won't insure you at all.
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Hey 'HEBEMONSTERS'
My van was the 109 bhp, it is now 130-135bhp. The 136 bhp has all the same components as the 109 so in theory no need to upgrade anything. It has just had a new flywheel, clutch and brakes so everything feels good at the mo. As for the insurance question, not even gona bother answering it!
My van was the 109 bhp, it is now 130-135bhp. The 136 bhp has all the same components as the 109 so in theory no need to upgrade anything. It has just had a new flywheel, clutch and brakes so everything feels good at the mo. As for the insurance question, not even gona bother answering it!
seopher said:
The problem I have with the whole chipping situation is, it can make fairly average cars quite a lot quicker than intended; yet owners rarely improve the brakes.
For me, going faster is useless if I'm not backed up by decent stopping material. So people putting 160bhp into a hatchback intended for 100bhp makes me nervous, because the pram-wheels those cars are sold with aren't intended for the power now delivered.
No need to improve the brakes, having more power doesn't mean you drive at a higher top speed, but you can accelerate more quickly.For me, going faster is useless if I'm not backed up by decent stopping material. So people putting 160bhp into a hatchback intended for 100bhp makes me nervous, because the pram-wheels those cars are sold with aren't intended for the power now delivered.
My understanding is that it's more to do with manufacturers having to produce vehicles which are capable of being used anywhere they are sold, ie markets with extremes of temperature, poor quality fuel etc etc. The standard maps are therefore conservative to ensure reliability with all these factors. A car being run in the UK can handle having a more aggressive map due to decent fuel etc. Removing the designed in safety margins, by pushing timing and AFR's etc, can therefore release more power from the same fuel input. You therefore either get better performance from the same fuel used, or less fuel use when driving at the same speeds, or a bit of both.
Knowing how far these margins can be pushed is why it's worth paying your money to someone who knows what they are doing.
Knowing how far these margins can be pushed is why it's worth paying your money to someone who knows what they are doing.
Beemer billy said:
Hey 'HEBEMONSTERS'
My van was the 109 bhp, it is now 130-135bhp. The 136 bhp has all the same components as the 109 so in theory no need to upgrade anything. It has just had a new flywheel, clutch and brakes so everything feels good at the mo. As for the insurance question, not even gona bother answering it!
You appear to be confused. At no point was I questioning the ability to up your power from 109 to 130 bhp, that sounds perfectly reasonable.My van was the 109 bhp, it is now 130-135bhp. The 136 bhp has all the same components as the 109 so in theory no need to upgrade anything. It has just had a new flywheel, clutch and brakes so everything feels good at the mo. As for the insurance question, not even gona bother answering it!
What I am questioning is this:
ShiggyBiggs said:
Good call, Im going to get my Caddy mapped when I get the time! 104 up too 145/150bhp.
Score.
And also helping to explain to the naysayers why manufacturers don't optimise engine maps for power.Score.
In fact, one more point to raise on that. Quite a few manufacturers will put the same engine in, but tune to different levels to meet certain price points. I think Ford did that with a 2.0 diesel, that was available in 90, 110 and 130bhp options?
HereBeMonsters said:
Take my Octavia VRS. The remap I've purchased for it should give it around 215-220bhp, up from its original 180. However the standard clutch won't take that, hence I've had to get JKM to fit a hybrid solution involving a G60 Corrado flywheel and an uprated Sachs clutch from a Golf V5.
60,000miles+ with a 1.8T vRS and remap tells me you just wasted a decent chunk of cash. Even if your clutch was on its last legs a standard replacement is more than enough.MonkeyHanger said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Take my Octavia VRS. The remap I've purchased for it should give it around 215-220bhp, up from its original 180. However the standard clutch won't take that, hence I've had to get JKM to fit a hybrid solution involving a G60 Corrado flywheel and an uprated Sachs clutch from a Golf V5.
60,000miles+ with a 1.8T vRS and remap tells me you just wasted a decent chunk of cash. Even if your clutch was on its last legs a standard replacement is more than enough.HereBeMonsters said:
Standard replacement was not far off the price, tbh, and it provides scope for future mods as well.
Both fair points, but to state that the standard clutch isn't good for circa 215 bhp is incorrect. I can think of at least a dozen cars in that state of tune that have done 4 or 5 track days each and done more miles than my old one 
Enjoy the remap though, it transforms the car completely. 3rd gear is a hoot for overtaking in appropriate places. I've got a re-mapped 2.0TFSi vRS now and still miss the old beast at times.
MonkeyHanger said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Standard replacement was not far off the price, tbh, and it provides scope for future mods as well.
Both fair points, but to state that the standard clutch isn't good for circa 215 bhp is incorrect. I can think of at least a dozen cars in that state of tune that have done 4 or 5 track days each and done more miles than my old one Enjoy the remap though, it transforms the car completely. 3rd gear is a hoot for overtaking in appropriate places. I've got a re-mapped 2.0TFSi vRS now and still miss the old beast at times.
I was informed that the standard part wears much quicker with a remap as the power is delivered much less smoothly, which is certainly true. In fact once it started slipping I had to put the original map back on to be able to drive it to them.
HereBeMonsters said:
JKM gave me all the options, and fitted all of the above as well as a new slave cylinder and a Forge DV for only £129 more than the OEM replacement part.
I was informed that the standard part wears much quicker with a remap as the power is delivered much less smoothly, which is certainly true. In fact once it started slipping I had to put the original map back on to be able to drive it to them.
I've heard of Fabias having post remap clutch issues but never an Octavia.I was informed that the standard part wears much quicker with a remap as the power is delivered much less smoothly, which is certainly true. In fact once it started slipping I had to put the original map back on to be able to drive it to them.
The "less smooth" power delivery must be a feature of your particular map as mine was very smooth. Then again it was on the rollers for a few hours being set up.
MonkeyHanger said:
HereBeMonsters said:
Take my Octavia VRS. The remap I've purchased for it should give it around 215-220bhp, up from its original 180. However the standard clutch won't take that, hence I've had to get JKM to fit a hybrid solution involving a G60 Corrado flywheel and an uprated Sachs clutch from a Golf V5.
60,000miles+ with a 1.8T vRS and remap tells me you just wasted a decent chunk of cash. Even if your clutch was on its last legs a standard replacement is more than enough.
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