Why do learners not learn on the Motorway?
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I actually think there is a lot to be said for having a system like with motorbikes, where you do an initial test which gives you the ability to drive a certain class of vehicle in certain circumstances (maybe less than 100bhp/tonne and no use of motorways); then a second test with a higher age requirement and maybe a "time after the first test" requirement which opens up higher risk cars and the use of the motorways.
okgo said:
Pass Plus is reccomended by me because it gives you a few hours doing the motorways at night.
unfortunately it doesn't.you do have to do it on the motorway, but back when I did mine, we just talked about night time conditions, because it was middle of summer we couldn't practice in dark.
Efbe said:
okgo said:
Pass Plus is reccomended by me because it gives you a few hours doing the motorways at night.
unfortunately it doesn't.you do have to do it on the motorway, but back when I did mine, we just talked about night time conditions, because it was middle of summer we couldn't practice in dark.
apart from being a car enthusiast i was fortunate at the time of my learning to drive my dad and i were traveling up and down the county almost every weekend so you learn that way but i do think there should be an extention to the driving test to include actual driving on motorways or if not possible alot of theory on how to use them properly. New drivers would learn alot about judging speed, distance and smooth consistant driving. something which is lacking
geeteeaye said:
Because vast areas of England/Wales/Scotland don't have any motorway, will be a long driving lesson from Aberystwyth/Norwich/Cornwall/Northumberland/Highlands etc. That and the licence restrictions 
That's the worst motorway map I've ever seen, there's even some missing. 
Larry Dickman said:
geeteeaye said:
Because vast areas of England/Wales/Scotland don't have any motorway, will be a long driving lesson from Aberystwyth/Norwich/Cornwall/Northumberland/Highlands etc. That and the licence restrictions
That's the worst motorway map I've ever seen, there's even some missing. 
one or two little bits missing from that one too, A66(M) for example, which is the crappiest little bit of Motorway ever
The first time I joined a motorway, I was absolutely stunned to see that it was nearly identical to a dual carriageway, and not some sort of free-for-all death race.
Though this was M11/M25/M3; perhaps the motorways elsewhere do require special driving skills and/or Mad Max style armour plating.
Though this was M11/M25/M3; perhaps the motorways elsewhere do require special driving skills and/or Mad Max style armour plating.
aizvara said:
The first time I joined a motorway, I was absolutely stunned to see that it was nearly identical to a dual carriageway, and not some sort of free-for-all death race.
Though this was M11/M25/M3; perhaps the motorways elsewhere do require special driving skills and/or Mad Max style armour plating.
I'd say the M25 is probably one of the biggest I've been on, the others are all "easier" imo.Though this was M11/M25/M3; perhaps the motorways elsewhere do require special driving skills and/or Mad Max style armour plating.
How s
t does that map make our motorway network look, no wonder the Motorways round Birmingham are so bad.
Which could be a reason Motorways aren't in the test, a test from Walsall would end up on the M6 and the traffic could mean your entire test and half the next person's was spent getting from junction 10-9. In some places the distance between junctions would mean a test up to the next junction turn round and come back.
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t does that map make our motorway network look, no wonder the Motorways round Birmingham are so bad. Which could be a reason Motorways aren't in the test, a test from Walsall would end up on the M6 and the traffic could mean your entire test and half the next person's was spent getting from junction 10-9. In some places the distance between junctions would mean a test up to the next junction turn round and come back.
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Edited by Engineer1 on Wednesday 2nd February 13:14
geeteeaye said:
Because vast areas of England/Wales/Scotland don't have any motorway, will be a long driving lesson from Aberystwyth/Norwich/Cornwall/Northumberland/Highlands etc. That and the licence restrictions
Scotland, M80, M90...Is it that difficult to drive on a motorway, lots of dual carriageways are similar, albeit 2 lanes, slip roads are there on most me thinks. If you are competent to drive your car on a road at road speeds, and have read up on the HC and been examined on it, what else do you need?
Lets face it, many many who have been driving for years, have absolutely no idea of motorway driving anyway. Maybe the test should be harder, maybe the questions should be harder in the first plce.
Personally, I went from a motorbike stright to an HGV3, and then took my 3 ton truck from Portsmouth to Fort William with no trouble at all. Far from being unique, I was a competent driver. If your not competent, or confident then refrain from the roads you don't feel you are up to.
Yes there are those who don't feel competent to drive on a motorway, my wife's frient won't even drive into Aberdeen, and she has been driving for over 20 years, some are just not born drivers, they scrape through a test and are let loose.
A motorway is just a dual carriage way without roundabouts.
Edited by Vipers on Wednesday 2nd February 13:26
Engineer1 said:
How st does that map make our motorway network look, no wonder the Motorways round Birmingham are so bad.
Which could be a reason Motorways aren't in the test, a test from Walsall would end up on the M6 and the traffic could mean your entire test and half the next person's was spent getting from junction 10-9. In some places the distance between junctions would mean a test up to the next junction turn round and come back.
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And the driving instructors would struggle even more to make a living!t does that map make our motorway network look, no wonder the Motorways round Birmingham are so bad. Which could be a reason Motorways aren't in the test, a test from Walsall would end up on the M6 and the traffic could mean your entire test and half the next person's was spent getting from junction 10-9. In some places the distance between junctions would mean a test up to the next junction turn round and come back.
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Edited by Engineer1 on Wednesday 2nd February 13:14
I think it's OK as it is really.
I passed 17 years ago and still remember a good bit of dual carriageway being involved.
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