RE: HonestGuv: Honda S2000
Discussion
I have had mine 5 years,its been totally reliable and although not the fastest thing I have had I love it. Handles better and more predictable on Avons. Also my son bought me a strut/rack brace and that has improved the slight dead feeling in steering wheel when turning off centre,I think this was designed this way so more relaxing when on motorway, i.e. not having to correct it all the time. I am an independent engineer and have only inspected one engine that failed and that was due to carbon build up causing the valves to stick, had been using non branded/budget fuel. Only run mine on V power you can tell the difference when pulling at low speed in top from other fuels, easy to get mid 35 mpg on a run. I can get my alloy trolley jack in the well in the boot and use it for work in the summer!
Chapppers said:
One of the reasons I bought a Noble M12 was because I couldn't afford to insure an S2000.
Wow. Not a sentence I would have expected to read. "One of the reasons I bought an MX-5 or Elise or MR2" maybe, but that one's surprised me...Are they really that costly to insure, then?
snorkel sucker said:
wl606 said:
"plus the reactions you need on greasy corners aren't necessarily there after three or four pints of Scruttocks Old Dirigible."
"and if you bother with insurance these days the premium might make your eyes water a bit."
It's not big, and it's not clever.
and i think its tounge in cheek!!"and if you bother with insurance these days the premium might make your eyes water a bit."
It's not big, and it's not clever.
ds! if you have a crash you should have a fight to sort out whos paying!Riggers said:
Chapppers said:
One of the reasons I bought a Noble M12 was because I couldn't afford to insure an S2000.
Wow. Not a sentence I would have expected to read. "One of the reasons I bought an MX-5 or Elise or MR2" maybe, but that one's surprised me...Are they really that costly to insure, then?
Bigstyle. I set up one quote when i was in the market, the only detail i changed was the car reg. £740 for my Z4 vs £1400 for the S2000. Thats almost double, yet they have almost identical performance!No word of a lie. I'd settled on getting an S2000 when I got the quotes back. Cheapest was over £2k when the Noble was going to be £500 to insure. Obviously there were a multitude of much better reasons to follow, and I'm by no means saying that I'm still dreaming of one day being able to afford one!
At the time however I had the money to buy the S2000 outright, it was the logical step up from an MX5, but my stubbornness meant that I simply wouldn't pay that much for insurance. Ever. I then set about making the extra funds available to buy the Noble (thus skipping a few step cars along the way!).
At the time however I had the money to buy the S2000 outright, it was the logical step up from an MX5, but my stubbornness meant that I simply wouldn't pay that much for insurance. Ever. I then set about making the extra funds available to buy the Noble (thus skipping a few step cars along the way!).
Edited by Chapppers on Wednesday 9th February 15:48
Frimley111R said:
LOL at 'Elise beater'. (...) The Elise slaughters the S2000 as a driver's car.
Not sure . . . 'Ring times anyone?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx_TecmQHoM
Gulp! 8:39 vs 8:42 (Lotus Exige Mk1)
dinkel said:
Frimley111R said:
LOL at 'Elise beater'. (...) The Elise slaughters the S2000 as a driver's car.
Not sure . . . 'Ring times anyone?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx_TecmQHoM
Gulp! 8:39 vs 8:42 (Lotus Exige Mk1)
I've driven both the Elise and S2000 as well, and an S2000 is shadowed by an MR2 and MX5 as a driver's car, let alone the Elise. To suggest the S2000 is anywhere near an Elise as a driver's car is pure lunacy
As I said before though, I do like the S2000 - it's a nice car.
Edited by RobM77 on Wednesday 9th February 16:19
wl606 said:
"plus the reactions you need on greasy corners aren't necessarily there after three or four pints of Scruttocks Old Dirigible."
"and if you bother with insurance these days the premium might make your eyes water a bit."
It's not big, and it's not clever.
I think it's for a laff, this is not the Autocar website."and if you bother with insurance these days the premium might make your eyes water a bit."
It's not big, and it's not clever.
RobM77 said:
I've driven both the Elise and S2000 as well, and an S2000 is shadowed by an MR2 and MX5 as a driver's car, let alone the Elise.
To be fair i dont think anyone suggested otherwise?You would need to spend quite a lot of money on a Lotus to go faster than an S2000. Of course the Lotus would feel more 'special' though.
Kong said:
RobM77 said:
I've driven both the Elise and S2000 as well, and an S2000 is shadowed by an MR2 and MX5 as a driver's car, let alone the Elise.
To be fair i dont think anyone suggested otherwise?You would need to spend quite a lot of money on a Lotus to go faster than an S2000. Of course the Lotus would feel more 'special' though.
I'd like to clarify that again actually
Being a driver's car is also nothing to do with feeling "special". In most people's language, a car is a driver's car if it has good steering feel, chassis responses, chassis feedback and progressiveness. It's nothing to do with performance, badge, specialness, kudos, lap times etc. Everyone has their own definitions of course, but this is pretty universal these days.
Article said:
The Elise was all right I suppose. Anything relying on an old BL lump for its poke is never going to be what you might call refined, plus the reactions you need on greasy corners aren't necessarily there after three or four pints of Scruttocks Old Dirigible.
But the Honda was pure gold. Half a ton heavier, sure, but 94 more horse, better brakes and a sight more civilised.
Nonsense. Utter, utter nonsense. How anyone can get out of driving both an Elise and an S2000 and declare the Honda a better drivers car, frankly needs locking up. Horsepower isn't everything, so what if an S2K has nearly 100 brake over an Elise? That totally and utterly misses the bloody point. I'm not even sure it has better brakes - all three Elises of various vintages I've driven have had decent enough stoppers. But the Honda was pure gold. Half a ton heavier, sure, but 94 more horse, better brakes and a sight more civilised.
The civilised bit I'll give you.
Other than that, poor.
PH said:
He's on to something here. Under 6000rpm you've got a quiet, well-screwed-together cruiser with all mod cons, something you could cheerily drive to your gran's funeral. Above 6000rpm you've got a proper barrel of laughs: 237 brake, ton-fifty on the digi speedo, snappy six-speed 'box, nought to sixty in five, and a nice leather seat for the old lady.
I've driven an S2000.. no way would you fit a coffin on the passenger seat.Urban Sports said:
RobM77 said:
and an S2000 is shadowed by an MR2 and MX5 as a driver's car
No it isn't.
It's obviously subjective. That's just my opinion, and I believe one shared by Evo magazine as well. The MR2's a good example, because they're great - I prefer the steering feel and road feel in the MR2, and I find the handling more linear and user friendly too.RobM77 said:
Urban Sports said:
RobM77 said:
and an S2000 is shadowed by an MR2 and MX5 as a driver's car
No it isn't. It's obviously subjective. That's just my opinion, and I believe one shared by Evo magazine as well. The MR2's a good example, because they're great - I prefer the steering feel and road feel in the MR2, and I find the handling more linear and user friendly too.Although what the opinion of EVO has to do with it I'm not sure, and that's coming from a subscriber. IMO people read to much and don't do enough.
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