Child Seat Advice
Discussion
bungle said:
One for the experts on here...
Do you know why Porsche say you can't use child seats in their bucket seats? I was thinking of a backless booster (eg. as demo'd below in bucket seats).
From previous experience with working for such manufacturers I would say it's because of the shape of their seats. Very difficult to find child restraints to fit such sporty seat's. Bentley & Aston Martin invested heavily in making sure a child restraint would fit their vehicle's...Do you know why Porsche say you can't use child seats in their bucket seats? I was thinking of a backless booster (eg. as demo'd below in bucket seats).
Porsche configurator said:
Note: child seats must not be used with the sports bucket seats
havoc said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
Hi folks,
Just started a new thread because I couldn't find this one! I'll cut and paste what I wrote:
I have a related but slightly different problem - looking at Group 2/3 seats but my rear headrests are inmoulded so I can't remove them. They curve-forwards from the rake of the seatback slightly so very few, if any, child seats will fit snug against the seat-back.Just started a new thread because I couldn't find this one! I'll cut and paste what I wrote:
In a different thread I said:
Hi all,
Just had a bit of a search as there was a massive child seat thread a few years back with some guy who tests them contributing. Can't find it of course!
Just moved our daughter up from a group 1 seat (Maxi Cosi Tobi) to a group 2/3 Maxi Cosi Rodi AirProtect as she was too tall (4 years old).
I've got a non ISOFIX one for my e36 cab.
Fits OK, but the head restraint gets in the way and forces the top of the seat forwards. I put the head restraint as high as possible and it just fits under it, but due to my daughter's height the seat needs to be on a taller setting, so the head restraint still gets in the way.
Just had a bit of a search as there was a massive child seat thread a few years back with some guy who tests them contributing. Can't find it of course!
Just moved our daughter up from a group 1 seat (Maxi Cosi Tobi) to a group 2/3 Maxi Cosi Rodi AirProtect as she was too tall (4 years old).
I've got a non ISOFIX one for my e36 cab.
Fits OK, but the head restraint gets in the way and forces the top of the seat forwards. I put the head restraint as high as possible and it just fits under it, but due to my daughter's height the seat needs to be on a taller setting, so the head restraint still gets in the way.
I did read somewhere that ISOFIX seats (thankfully it has lugs hidden in the bite-line) don't NEED to sit snug to the seat-back, as they're effectively locked in place by the ISOFIX mechanism, but:-
- Is that true?
- Is that safe?
Your answer is fine Havoc, no need to add anything. 
Although in response to the Britax seat being £40 more expensive I shall just say that they are the only child seat manufacturer with their very own crash center with 2 test sleds & conduct approx 1500 crash tests per year. A lot of "extra" time effort & money goes into making sure Britax products are the safest they can possibly be.
This does not mean that their competitors seats are "unsafe" so please don't take it that way.
Although in response to the Britax seat being £40 more expensive I shall just say that they are the only child seat manufacturer with their very own crash center with 2 test sleds & conduct approx 1500 crash tests per year. A lot of "extra" time effort & money goes into making sure Britax products are the safest they can possibly be.
This does not mean that their competitors seats are "unsafe" so please don't take it that way.
gibbo37 said:
boobles said:
Your answer is fine Havoc, no need to add anything.
Although in response to the Britax seat being £40 more expensive I shall just say that they are the only child seat manufacturer with their very own crash center with 2 test sleds & conduct approx 1500 crash tests per year. A lot of "extra" time effort & money goes into making sure Britax products are the safest they can possibly be.
This does not mean that their competitors seats are "unsafe" so please don't take it that way.
I think you will find a lot of other car seat manufacturers also have their own crash test facilities. I know for a fact that Maxi-Cosi have their own test facilities in France, perhaps you meant Britax were the only ones to have test facilities in the UK?Although in response to the Britax seat being £40 more expensive I shall just say that they are the only child seat manufacturer with their very own crash center with 2 test sleds & conduct approx 1500 crash tests per year. A lot of "extra" time effort & money goes into making sure Britax products are the safest they can possibly be.
This does not mean that their competitors seats are "unsafe" so please don't take it that way.
As for the report above - If 5 different test facilities anywhere in the world conducted the same tests on the same child seats, every lab would produce different results. We see this all the time where one product might pass a test here in the UK but could fail in lets say Germany. Different labs do produce different results than one another.
PostHeads123 said:
Ok he currently in a Silver Cross 'Infant carrier' says its group O+ birth to 12 months up to 29lbs, baby is pretty tall so his legs hanging over the edge. I don't understand at what point you decide to go from Infant Carrier to a seat ?
thanks
Age is just a guidance really but weight is the important factor. Typically from 9kg is when you should think about buying a forward facing child seat. The other important factor is, can your child support the weight of his/her neck & sit up & support itself? very important otherwise their neck muscles have not developed enough to be sitting in a forward facing child seat.thanks
MidlifeC2S said:
Hi boobles, can you recommend a seat for an 8 year old that fits the rear seats in a 2008 porsche 911 coupe please?
Something like the Britax Adventure may be worth a shout. These are narrow high back booster seats so still offer side impact protection along with being fairly narrow to allow for "bucket" style car seats.robz said:
Sorry to resurrect a really old thread but hoped someone might be able to answer this...
With a Land Rover Discovery 4 , there are 3 seats in the middle row, They have isofix on the outer two. Is there the potential for this to be fitted to the middle seat of the 3 , or even have an outer seat installed in the middle? Would make life so much easier to be able to use an outer seat for an adult and not have one of the two isofix seats anchored to it!
Probably not, no.With a Land Rover Discovery 4 , there are 3 seats in the middle row, They have isofix on the outer two. Is there the potential for this to be fitted to the middle seat of the 3 , or even have an outer seat installed in the middle? Would make life so much easier to be able to use an outer seat for an adult and not have one of the two isofix seats anchored to it!
havoc said:
Can I ask for some more general advice, please?
2-seat sports car (NSX) with a passenger airbag (non-switchable, no weight-sensor in the seat so permanently active).
Can I (safely) fit a Group 2/3 high-back booster in the passenger seat for my son?
- Can't find any advice in UK Owners Club
- Honda UK are pretty useless (see below)
- In the US a lot of parents are getting aftermarket PAB switches installed, or doing a full PAB deactivation.
- Some aren't bothering as they're claiming that with the seat right back any child will be far enough away from the deployment area not to come into contact.
So what do I do / can I do?
- My inclination is that the last bullet point above is correct. But that's all it is...
- I may be able to find data on US PAB deployment, but I've no guarantees that's the same PAB as the UK car.
- With a high-back booster, how far (typically) does a child 'pitch forward' in the event of an accident?
Despite my year of car in the US having a passenger seat sensor, apparently the UK market cars don't come with one, and I can't get any info from Honda UK ref. the distance the PAB deploys into the cabin, but it's quite a large/long cabin (certainly vs e.g. S2000 / MR2...).
The best advice here would be to have the passenger seat as far away from the airbag as possible.2-seat sports car (NSX) with a passenger airbag (non-switchable, no weight-sensor in the seat so permanently active).
Can I (safely) fit a Group 2/3 high-back booster in the passenger seat for my son?
- Can't find any advice in UK Owners Club
- Honda UK are pretty useless (see below)
- In the US a lot of parents are getting aftermarket PAB switches installed, or doing a full PAB deactivation.
- Some aren't bothering as they're claiming that with the seat right back any child will be far enough away from the deployment area not to come into contact.
So what do I do / can I do?
- My inclination is that the last bullet point above is correct. But that's all it is...
- I may be able to find data on US PAB deployment, but I've no guarantees that's the same PAB as the UK car.
- With a high-back booster, how far (typically) does a child 'pitch forward' in the event of an accident?
Despite my year of car in the US having a passenger seat sensor, apparently the UK market cars don't come with one, and I can't get any info from Honda UK ref. the distance the PAB deploys into the cabin, but it's quite a large/long cabin (certainly vs e.g. S2000 / MR2...).
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