RE: Meet The 'Cougatti' Veyron

RE: Meet The 'Cougatti' Veyron

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eldudereno

997 posts

228 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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groomi said:
Oh dear. The best thing about the Cougar was it's looks.
You obviously know nothing about the car.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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TobesH said:
I wonder where the line is drawn - replica vs the real thing and what is good or not so good? For example:

Some great 'replicas':

Bugatti Type 31
Are you sure somebody has made a replica of a Bugatti Type 31 . . . . . . wink

jake15919

738 posts

166 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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eldudereno said:
You obviously know nothing about the car.
Or aesthetics more to the point.

ESOG

1,705 posts

159 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Oooookay.... So, 89 grand for a body that looks like a Bugatti. What poor soul would drop that sort of dough? That is a perfect case of more money than brains. Although I have to agree that this is a very good looking replica, but thats as far as it goes. The person who purchased it must be the biggest poser of all time. Because you know damn good and well he is going around telling those who dont know any better that it is a real Veryon. What happens when someone asks to see the engine? Is it just a hollow model of one in the back? From the looks of the pictures it seems that way.

For 89 grand, wouldnt you much rather drop that on a used Ferrari or a new Evora or a Viper and still have money left over.

Waynester

6,351 posts

251 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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eldudereno said:
You obviously know nothing about the car.
I loved my old V6 Cougar... Wasn't the quickest or handle the best but it was a great car for motorway stomping..& my kids loved the rear bucket seats!

As for the repli Veyron, not my cup of char but then I can recognise decent effort. Each to their own and all... smile




Gwagon111

4,422 posts

162 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Ohhhhhh my eyes. hurl. It's the rear view fail, that cracks me up.



Notice how the real Veyron has it's mahoosive engine uncovered and clearly visible.


TobesH

550 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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AndrewW-G said:
TobesH said:
I wonder where the line is drawn - replica vs the real thing and what is good or not so good? For example:

Some great 'replicas':

Bugatti Type 31
Are you sure somebody has made a replica of a Bugatti Type 31 . . . . . . wink
Sh*t, I meant 35. Doh' Good points on here but still the fundemental reason for a replica is the cost savings over an orginal. Good ali C-Type is £ 70k. A real one is £2million +!

zebedee

4,589 posts

279 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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TobesH said:
Sh*t, I meant 35. Doh' Good points on here but still the fundemental reason for a replica is the cost savings over an orginal. Good ali C-Type is £ 70k. A real one is £2million +!
I maintain that the reason for a replica is that a car should look good, and I don't think the Veyron looks good, though as I said before, it is still an impressive car. I suppose you could say a replica follows something desirable, and I can accept that the Veyron is that. But with a replica of a beautiful car, as long as it looks right, you can enjoy the look of it, whereas this car is desirable for its engineering, performance and power, which the replica has none of. That is why it fails for me.

Mista_V

748 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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zebedee said:
I maintain that the reason for a replica is that a car should look good, and I don't think the Veyron looks good, though as I said before, it is still an impressive car. I suppose you could say a replica follows something desirable, and I can accept that the Veyron is that. But with a replica of a beautiful car, as long as it looks right, you can enjoy the look of it, whereas this car is desirable for its engineering, performance and power, which the replica has none of. That is why it fails for me.
Agreed, some replicas are cool and desirable, for me that would be something like a Dax Cobra, but they look spot on and come with a serious V8 with modern running gear etc...

The bottom line for replicas in my opinion is that they must accurately replicate both the visual AND performance aspects of the original, or improve it with regards to the latter.

Any replica that fails to do that for me, is a large waste of time and money so that goes for the M5 badged 520's, MR2 ferraris, this thing above etc...

Biker's Nemesis

38,717 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Mista_V said:
zebedee said:
I maintain that the reason for a replica is that a car should look good, and I don't think the Veyron looks good, though as I said before, it is still an impressive car. I suppose you could say a replica follows something desirable, and I can accept that the Veyron is that. But with a replica of a beautiful car, as long as it looks right, you can enjoy the look of it, whereas this car is desirable for its engineering, performance and power, which the replica has none of. That is why it fails for me.
Agreed, some replicas are cool and desirable, for me that would be something like a Dax Cobra, but they look spot on and come with a serious V8 with modern running gear etc...

The bottom line for replicas in my opinion is that they must accurately replicate both the visual AND performance aspects of the original, or improve it with regards to the latter.

Any replica that fails to do that for me, is a large waste of time and money so that goes for the M5 badged 520's, MR2 ferraris, this thing above etc...
It's not out of the way to own a second hand M5 or Ferrari though is it.

Now a Veyron!

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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HAHAHAHA - What a .

monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Gwagon111 said:
Ohhhhhh my eyes. hurl. It's the rear view fail, that cracks me up.



Notice how the real Veyron has it's mahoosive engine uncovered and clearly visible.
I can't see any difference...



Emsman

6,923 posts

191 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Yeah love its a real Veyron, innit, nearly a million quid. Wots that? You like my watch, its a Rolex innit gal, nearly 15k it was.

Yeah, ive got bags of cash, love, minted yea.

back to mine? Yea, let me just phone me mum and make sure she's out


jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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What KNOB Veyron owner lean't his car out to have paper mashe molds taken off of it - Bugatti must be hunting him down, surely!

zebedee

4,589 posts

279 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Biker's Nemesis said:
It's not out of the way to own a second hand M5 or Ferrari though is it.

Now a Veyron!
but as the poster you reply to said, you aren't getting anything to do with the veyron, other than a passing resemblance. My dad has a Dax Cobra replica, with a V8 and of course it is nothing like the real thing, but stil a lovely looking thing, as all Cobras and authentic clones are, feels authentic, with the little leather seats, wooden wheel, period instruments etc, sounds great and goes pretty well too. This thing won't tick any of those boxes so fails to be impressive on any level other than the fact someone took the time to do it. Some cars are so beautiful you could merit a non-running replica simply to gaze on, the Veyron ain't one of them

Biker's Nemesis

38,717 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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zebedee said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
It's not out of the way to own a second hand M5 or Ferrari though is it.

Now a Veyron!
but as the poster you reply to said, you aren't getting anything to do with the veyron, other than a passing resemblance. My dad has a Dax Cobra replica, with a V8 and of course it is nothing like the real thing, but stil a lovely looking thing, as all Cobras and authentic clones are, feels authentic, with the little leather seats, wooden wheel, period instruments etc, sounds great and goes pretty well too. This thing won't tick any of those boxes so fails to be impressive on any level other than the fact someone took the time to do it. Some cars are so beautiful you could merit a non-running replica simply to gaze on, the Veyron ain't one of them
As a visual exercise I don't think the creator has done a bad job.

Most I suspect would be happy to drive something that resembles a Veyron.

I wouldn't spend 50-70k on it, it will be as flat as a fart.

Mista_V

748 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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The controversy seems to start when people mix the different aspects of discussion, usually in these replica threads that comes down to:

1) An appreciation of the time / skill involved to produce it.

2) The point of the replica and the mentality of someone purchasing one.

3) The cost of the replica.

Very different points, my opinions relate to points 2 and 3, I definitely can appreciate the skill that goes into building something like this fake Veyron, but that is where the appreciation ends, I mean this is the extreme end of the replica spectrum but I don't like dishonesty, even when it comes to cars, that might just be your local boy racer sticking a 2.0 badge on his 1.6 or an M3 badge on a 318, not a massive deal but not something I would do.

I personally would feel like a total tool if asked about my car in that situation, and that situation is magnified by a thousand in this case because this fake veyron will still probably attract a lot of attention, I'm sure some will say "who cares what people think", fair point, however I suspect approximately 0.1% of folk who would consider buying this type of thing are buying it for any other reason than showing off so that is kind of a moot point, not exactly going to be buying it for the driver satisfaction are you!




The NSX man

140 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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monthefish said:
I can't see any difference...

biggrin

why oh why do people do this? hurlshoot

joz8968

1,042 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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magpies said:
...I managed this 200 lookalike for less than £7k - 300bhp 4wd 1240kg and sva'd


2nd fastest out of 60 cars at Croft trackday
Nice! Is it a KaRa rep. mate? Based on a Sierra doner car?

I was well smitten with these kits when I saw one at a Essex motor show in 1992 - really wanted the 430 one lol. Then KaRa went bust... frown

anything fast

983 posts

165 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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oh dear i actually think that looks ok... i must be unwell...

i must say though i do not particulary like the bugatti veyrons looks, I respect its ability to go very very fast in a straight line but i think it looks like a dog, i would rather have a better handling, purer supercar