RE: De Tomaso Pantera To Return By End Of 2011

[IDrinkPetrol]

Why don't they get Tom Tjaarda to style it again - he's only seventy six.
De Tomaso on the other hand celebrates the eighth anniversary of his death in three weeks.

Or: Forget about the silly Pantera (just a back-to-front Mustang) and roll out a new Mangusta.

The original Deauvilles peak annual sales of 46 (in 1972) might just suggest where this affair is headed.

[Transmitter Man]

A back to front Mustang



Phil

[Blown2CV]

ESOG said:

Blown2CV said:

don't forget: de Tomaso is yank, and yanks are st at making cars.

the end

Well that is a very assinine comment isn't it... Due expand on this please. If you are referring to normal everyday cars than I'd have to agree with you, although they are improving drastically. But if your comment is directed at sports cars made by the US manufacturers you are grossly wrong in your comment. Is the Viper st? Is the ZO6? Mustang? Camaro? Etc. Last I checked the viper and zo6 can keep up with the very best of european exotica at half the cost. Reliability is better too, and running costs. Sure they don't have the same interior aesthetics, but that's their style.

So again, due indulge me, please.

i didn't say you make st cars (necessarily), i said you are st at making cars, in the latter day at least. The Pantera is one of my favourite cars of all time, but this? Bloated SUVs, weird compacts, overly retro cheese are all the order of the day. st interiors are just icing on the st-cake. Just like in Europe, most people don't drive supercars so the fact that the Viper, Z06 are good cars does not a trend make. I have no confidence in the new Pantera if this thing is anything to go by. It is a sickeningly cynical brand revival to the point where it actually threatens to harm my concrete love for the 70s Pantera even by the loosest of proxies. Oh by the way, it is my duty as keeper of the internet to inform you that just because you disagree with my opinion does not make me wrong and you right.

[delboyGT5]

OK, so I'm biased, but if it doesn't look better than this . . .

[lonefurrow]

IDrinkPetrol said:

Why don't they get Tom Tjaarda to style it again - he's only seventy six.
De Tomaso on the other hand celebrates the eighth anniversary of his death in three weeks.

Or: Forget about the silly Pantera (just a back-to-front Mustang) and roll out a new Mangusta.

The original Deauvilles peak annual sales of 46 (in 1972) might just suggest where this affair is headed.

A guy down my road had a Deauville in the late '70s - very cool to my under 10yr old self, made more so by it being spectacularly written off locally.

[jake15919]

IDrinkPetrol said:

The original Deauvilles peak annual sales of 46 (in 1972) might just suggest where this affair is headed.

And that benefited from being a very good car with drop dead good looks.

[ESOG]

wait, somehow i misses the silver car. If that is the new pantera than I agree it is ste.

[ellisd82]

delboyGT5 said:

OK, so I'm biased, but if it doesn't look better than this . . .

Stunning, just Stunning. Love the colour too. want to swap it for a Pug 306 with a massive 1.4ltr engine

The new one should look as close to this as possible.

[cottonfoo]

delboyGT5 said:

OK, so I'm biased, but if it doesn't look better than this . . .

Dribble!

[bobberz]

Blown2CV said:

ESOG said:

Blown2CV said:

don't forget: de Tomaso is yank, and yanks are st at making cars.

the end

Well that is a very assinine comment isn't it... Due expand on this please. If you are referring to normal everyday cars than I'd have to agree with you, although they are improving drastically. But if your comment is directed at sports cars made by the US manufacturers you are grossly wrong in your comment. Is the Viper st? Is the ZO6? Mustang? Camaro? Etc. Last I checked the viper and zo6 can keep up with the very best of european exotica at half the cost. Reliability is better too, and running costs. Sure they don't have the same interior aesthetics, but that's their style.

So again, due indulge me, please.

i didn't say you make st cars (necessarily), i said you are st at making cars, in the latter day at least. The Pantera is one of my favourite cars of all time, but this? Bloated SUVs, weird compacts, overly retro cheese are all the order of the day. st interiors are just icing on the st-cake. Just like in Europe, most people don't drive supercars so the fact that the Viper, Z06 are good cars does not a trend make. I have no confidence in the new Pantera if this thing is anything to go by. It is a sickeningly cynical brand revival to the point where it actually threatens to harm my concrete love for the 70s Pantera even by the loosest of proxies. Oh by the way, it is my duty as keeper of the internet to inform you that just because you disagree with my opinion does not make me wrong and you right.

Um, except the Z06 is not a supercar. It has supercar performance, but unlike Ferraris, etc. they are not rare as you seem to suggest. They're everywhere in the 'States, because the price is within reach for many Americans, unlike a 458 or Gallardo.

Also, DeTomaso is not "yank" as you stated, they're as Italian as FIAT, they just happened to use engines that didn't catch fire and were actually reliable and had torque. So, that does make you wrong.

I do agree with you that this new DeAuville SUV thing is utter st, though.

[thewheelman]

One of my early memories was a trip to LeMans in a Pantera my dad owned, so i'm pleased they intend to make a new one.

[thewheelman]

bobberz said:

Blown2CV said:

ESOG said:

Blown2CV said:

don't forget: de Tomaso is yank, and yanks are st at making cars.

the end

Well that is a very assinine comment isn't it... Due expand on this please. If you are referring to normal everyday cars than I'd have to agree with you, although they are improving drastically. But if your comment is directed at sports cars made by the US manufacturers you are grossly wrong in your comment. Is the Viper st? Is the ZO6? Mustang? Camaro? Etc. Last I checked the viper and zo6 can keep up with the very best of european exotica at half the cost. Reliability is better too, and running costs. Sure they don't have the same interior aesthetics, but that's their style.

So again, due indulge me, please.

i didn't say you make st cars (necessarily), i said you are st at making cars, in the latter day at least. The Pantera is one of my favourite cars of all time, but this? Bloated SUVs, weird compacts, overly retro cheese are all the order of the day. st interiors are just icing on the st-cake. Just like in Europe, most people don't drive supercars so the fact that the Viper, Z06 are good cars does not a trend make. I have no confidence in the new Pantera if this thing is anything to go by. It is a sickeningly cynical brand revival to the point where it actually threatens to harm my concrete love for the 70s Pantera even by the loosest of proxies. Oh by the way, it is my duty as keeper of the internet to inform you that just because you disagree with my opinion does not make me wrong and you right.

Um, except the Z06 is not a supercar. It has supercar performance, but unlike Ferraris, etc. they are not rare as you seem to suggest. They're everywhere in the 'States, because the price is within reach for many Americans, unlike a 458 or Gallardo.

Also, DeTomaso is not "yank" as you stated, they're as Italian as FIAT, they just happened to use engines that didn't catch fire and were actually reliable and had torque. So, that does make you wrong.

I do agree with you that this new DeAuville SUV thing is utter st, though.

I have many friends in the U.S. most of which are into cars. The general opinion i get from them, is that American cars are still not very well made & most people prefer european & Japanese cars. Personally i don't have any issues with them myself, they're mostly not to my taste. But i respect the fact that the American motor industry puts the blue collar car buyer as a priority. Lets not kid ourselves that a Mustang or a Camaro are supercars, they're just not. However they are impressive & powerful cars that the average person can afford. So i say, good on them for that.