Right 9 points now, what can I get to help me drive legally?

Right 9 points now, what can I get to help me drive legally?

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Tampon

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4,637 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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I picked up 6 points for failing to supply driver identity, phoned, wrote, explained, got pictures, not clear who was driving, went to court and got tied up in the minutia of detail, tried to fight it, lost, 6 points, fair enough.

a month ago driving new car down to dorset, about to get on motorway get stung by police speed trap just before the speed limit change, 1 mph over being offered speed awareness course, bang 3 points, my fault, fair enough.

Now I have 2 years of infraction free driving and want to get something to help me not now but in 18 months when I will end up relaxing as opposed to the scared like a rabbit look I have now, and can't afford to make a mistake.

I would like something that monitors my speed and warns me when I am above the speed limit, I have been looking at road angels but not sure if they don;t just tell you when your over the limit near a camera ( essentially what my sat nav does ). I would like something that keeps me in check all the time. Can I buy something or add some software for my garmin 205 ?

One final question does a failing to supply driver details ( ms90 ) points start from the conviction or when the offence occurred? ( there is a 8 months difference between them) ?

Cheers

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

256 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Self control?

kambites

67,634 posts

222 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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It's called your brain. smile

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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^^^ Indeed

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pbickerd

883 posts

161 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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I take it you dont have cruise?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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The Garmin 205 should work, just wedge it under the accelerator pedal.

Tampon

Original Poster:

4,637 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Yeap brain, yeap self control, nope I don;t believe I won;t go over the speed limit in the next 2 years, doubt many people can say different. Dont get me wrong, i am not looking for soemthign to help me rant to c0ck off my car, just help me not to go over the speedlimti at all. I was driving a 2.0 auto omega estate and have now moved to a 1.8 vectra, not exactly speed merchants !

Difference with me is I will lose my license if I do it now, most others won;t so would like to have something else as well.

I do have cruise but not that helpful on short 30mph roads, loads near me that are dual carridgeways

Edited to add, I am 31, have had a clean license since I was 17, all points are my fault but that is the scarey thing, I wasn't trying to speed or rag the car, so need to be very careful and want to be proactive

Edited by Tampon on Wednesday 2nd March 16:44


Edited by Tampon on Wednesday 2nd March 16:48

grgrgray

790 posts

169 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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I mentioned this on here before, but get a tomtom go LIVE or a road angel. They update on the move and usualy tell you about fixed and VAN cameras. the van or mobile cameras are updated by the community of users who can press a button when they see an active one and this broadcasts to all users in the area for 2 hours.

I had 9 points in 2005, I have now been conviction free for 5 years.

The downside is that you have to pay a subscription and you can't guarantee that it will catch all mobiles especialy on minor B roads.

PS I dont work for road angel or tomtom, just a high mileage driver trying to earn a crust.

Tampon

Original Poster:

4,637 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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grgrgray said:
I mentioned this on here before, but get a tomtom go LIVE or a road angel. They update on the move and usualy tell you about fixed and VAN cameras. the van or mobile cameras are updated by the community of users who can press a button when they see an active one and this broadcasts to all users in the area for 2 hours.

I had 9 points in 2005, I have now been conviction free for 5 years.

The downside is that you have to pay a subscription and you can't guarantee that it will catch all mobiles especialy on minor B roads.

PS I dont work for road angel or tomtom, just a high mileage driver trying to earn a crust.
Cheers grgrgray, does it tell you if you over the limit on any road or just ones with cameras on it ? I don;t want to speed anywhere not just round cameras.

Cheers

Pooky67

577 posts

160 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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My TomTom XL Classic tells me whenever I'm over the limit at all times, not just near a camera (well it would do, if I ever went over the limit paperbag )

Tampon

Original Poster:

4,637 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Pooky67 said:
My TomTom XL Classic tells me whenever I'm over the limit at all times, not just near a camera (well it would do, if I ever went over the limit paperbag )
TomTom XL Classic you say ?

Fanking you sir

Any one know of anything that could make my garmin do this wonderous thing ?

WeirdNeville

5,969 posts

216 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Do you have a local IAM group?
With 9 points you don't just need to be careful, you need to be mother theresa personified behind the wheel. Whilst a gadget might help "remind" you of the speed limit, always handy, I would suggest (and I'm not trying to be rude or get your back up here) that if you've been caught twice (and tried to 'play the game' once and lost out) that there may be something in your manner of driving that needs adjustment.

It could be something as simple as observation - Seeing the limits and sticking to them. Seeing cameras/coppers is equally as important.
It could be impatience or frustration. I doubt there's a driver in the country who doesn't speed ever, and simply saying "I'm not going to exceed the speed limit for two years" is all very well, but practically impossible if you don't arm yourself with the skills to stick to it.

After all, can you guarantee that you WON'T wake up 30 mins late for work one morning when your boss is already pissed off with you, and just press on that little bit to get there ASAP?

If you're in the south east and willing to travel, I'd be happy to "have a look" at your driving tosee where your energies may be best spent (NOTE -I am NOT an instructor/assessor, but I am a police driver and I've helped a few younger memebers of my family sort their driving out before they killed themselves) but I would recommend some programme of "advanced" driving tuition to address the heart of the problem, not the symptoms.

grgrgray

790 posts

169 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Tampon said:
Cheers grgrgray, does it tell you if you over the limit on any road or just ones with cameras on it ? I don;t want to speed anywhere not just round cameras.

Cheers
It highlights your speed in red if your over the limit for the road. also keeps you under the average speed cams on motorways, roadworks etc..The speed limits are based on the maps and are sometimes out of date but mainly accurate.

Doofus

25,950 posts

174 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Tampon said:
stung by police speed trap just before the speed limit change, 1 mph over being offered speed awareness course, bang 3 points
1mph?

I call 'liar' smile

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

256 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Sorry, but if you can't take any notice of your speedo, due to lack of self control, what makes you think you can take any notice of a gizmo on the dash?

Tampon

Original Poster:

4,637 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Doofus said:
1mph?

I call 'liar' smile
Cracking user name for you then;), 39mph and no offer of speed awareness, 38 and they do, said it in his little pamphlet and on their website. not complaining but it is just one of those things that would completely change my situation.

Lord Pikey

3,257 posts

216 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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my tom tom 730 can tell you if you are speeding with a audible warning. Its pretty old now so i guess you could find one cheap

Tampon

Original Poster:

4,637 posts

226 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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WeirdNeville said:
Do you have a local IAM group?
With 9 points you don't just need to be careful, you need to be mother theresa personified behind the wheel. Whilst a gadget might help "remind" you of the speed limit, always handy, I would suggest (and I'm not trying to be rude or get your back up here) that if you've been caught twice (and tried to 'play the game' once and lost out) that there may be something in your manner of driving that needs adjustment.

It could be something as simple as observation - Seeing the limits and sticking to them. Seeing cameras/coppers is equally as important.
It could be impatience or frustration. I doubt there's a driver in the country who doesn't speed ever, and simply saying "I'm not going to exceed the speed limit for two years" is all very well, but practically impossible if you don't arm yourself with the skills to stick to it.

After all, can you guarantee that you WON'T wake up 30 mins late for work one morning when your boss is already pissed off with you, and just press on that little bit to get there ASAP?

If you're in the south east and willing to travel, I'd be happy to "have a look" at your driving tosee where your energies may be best spent (NOTE -I am NOT an instructor/assessor, but I am a police driver and I've helped a few younger memebers of my family sort their driving out before they killed themselves) but I would recommend some programme of "advanced" driving tuition to address the heart of the problem, not the symptoms.
No not annoyed at all buddy, appreciate it, I am in Uxbridge in west london. I am fully aware that I am the problem and I was thinking a noisy beeping machine to tell me when i am over the speed limit would help along with me trying as hard as I can.

crofty1984

15,893 posts

205 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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I have a Nokia phone I use as my satnav, it tells me where the speed cameras are and what the speed is. It'll also sound an alert if I'm over the limit and let me know by how much. If you're near the end of your phone contract, worth a think?

quigonjay

641 posts

222 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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take the DIAmond advanced driving test
i did a few years ago while training to be a driving instructor, i can almost guarentee it will slow you down and make you a more conciencious driver, well, at least until some of your points run out