Right 9 points now, what can I get to help me drive legally?
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carmonk said:
Done. Let me know how I can prove this (at no expense to me) and I'll undertake five of those journeys every day and bill you monthly. If I exceed the speed limit, which I do on most journeys (intentionally) then I'm observant and make sure I don't get caught, or crash. In half a million miles I've been caught once, and that was after doing 135 in a 60 which wasn't something that crept up on me (although the cop car was, I had to slow down to let him catch up).
Ahh so you exceed the limit but your special because you ment to? I didn't crash, didn't get done for dangerous driving, and you got caught doing 135 in a 60, 75mph over the limit ? well I've got 9 points you been banned and you ripping me for being a bad driver ? unless you going to tell us you didn't get banned or convicted for dangerous driving ( 36 mph over the limit and it is a auto ban from 1mth to 12mth, infact I think that speed they would have locked you up, many cases of people being spent to jail from 4 weeks to 3 months for 130+)I am serious, you want £50 we can go in your car I will pay the petrol so your "not out of pocket" and I will watch gps with your speed, you make it 45 mins never going 10% over the speed limit once I will hand over £50, you do, you owe me £50.
You have to agree to being filmed though so we can post up what actually happened
this could be a cracking story for Black Tie and Pie.mp3manager said:
Wrong again monkey boy!
I'm a truck-driver, my licence is vocational therefore no licence = no job, no car & no house.
Wrong again ? what was I wrong about the first time ? let alone the second time ?I'm a truck-driver, my licence is vocational therefore no licence = no job, no car & no house.
Think you should re-read what I said, think you might be confusing me with someone else.
Herman Toothrot said:
Just try and look at your surroundings more.
I drive my cars fast, they are quite fast cars. I have little regard for speed limits prefering to drive to the conditions, except 30's which I obay to a good degree (try to keep under 35 even when surrounding say more would be safe).
I got caught speeding when I was 17 a few weeks after passing my test in the early 90's, its been the only time - it taught me to keep my eyes peeled.
Cheers Toothrot, I am doing that, just want all the help I can get, one slip and I am toast.I drive my cars fast, they are quite fast cars. I have little regard for speed limits prefering to drive to the conditions, except 30's which I obay to a good degree (try to keep under 35 even when surrounding say more would be safe).
I got caught speeding when I was 17 a few weeks after passing my test in the early 90's, its been the only time - it taught me to keep my eyes peeled.
Tampon said:
carmonk said:
Done. Let me know how I can prove this (at no expense to me) and I'll undertake five of those journeys every day and bill you monthly. If I exceed the speed limit, which I do on most journeys (intentionally) then I'm observant and make sure I don't get caught, or crash. In half a million miles I've been caught once, and that was after doing 135 in a 60 which wasn't something that crept up on me (although the cop car was, I had to slow down to let him catch up).
Ahh so you exceed the limit but your special because you ment to? I didn't crash, didn't get done for dangerous driving, and you got caught doing 135 in a 60, 75mph over the limit ? well I've got 9 points you been banned and you ripping me for being a bad driver ?Tampon said:
I am serious, you want £50 we can go in your car I will pay the petrol so your "not out of pocket" and I will watch gps with your speed, you make it 45 mins never going 10% over the speed limit once I will hand over £50, you do, you owe me £50.
Just send me the £50 and be happy I've saved you the embarrassment. You really think it's impossible to drive 45 minutes without going 110% or more of the limit? You think that if I aimed to drive at 40mph in a 50 I'd end up doing 56mph or more accidentally? That's absolutely ridiculous. If it were worth my while I could drive the rest of my life and not exceed 110% of the limit one single time, with no problems whatsoever.carmonk said:
Tampon said:
carmonk said:
Done. Let me know how I can prove this (at no expense to me) and I'll undertake five of those journeys every day and bill you monthly. If I exceed the speed limit, which I do on most journeys (intentionally) then I'm observant and make sure I don't get caught, or crash. In half a million miles I've been caught once, and that was after doing 135 in a 60 which wasn't something that crept up on me (although the cop car was, I had to slow down to let him catch up).
Ahh so you exceed the limit but your special because you ment to? I didn't crash, didn't get done for dangerous driving, and you got caught doing 135 in a 60, 75mph over the limit ? well I've got 9 points you been banned and you ripping me for being a bad driver ?Tampon said:
I am serious, you want £50 we can go in your car I will pay the petrol so your "not out of pocket" and I will watch gps with your speed, you make it 45 mins never going 10% over the speed limit once I will hand over £50, you do, you owe me £50.
Just send me the £50 and be happy I've saved you the embarrassment. You really think it's impossible to drive 45 minutes without going 110% or more of the limit? You think that if I aimed to drive at 40mph in a 50 I'd end up doing 56mph or more accidentally? That's absolutely ridiculous. If it were worth my while I could drive the rest of my life and not exceed 110% of the limit one single time, with no problems whatsoever.carmonk said:
"You think that if I aimed to drive at 40mph in a 50 I'd end up doing 56mph or more accidentally? That's absolutely ridiculous"
I never said that, I said you speed, I speed, I been caught, you been caught but I am the bad driver ( I am not even saying I am not, just I want to be extra careful not to lose my license ) and your the machine welding demigod who drives like Senna. You have now claimed that you drive and break the speed limits and drive at top speed ( what ever that means ??? )think you won;t get caught, as and when you choose and yet me wanting to keep under the limit am the muppet ????Internet driving god warrior, there is a genuine £50 in it and I would be happy for anyone else here to come along as private judge. Lets make it even better, we can video the gps and at the end we can watch it together and every time you unintentionally went over the speed limit by more than 10% it is £50 to me ( I will donate to to afrikids )
Seriously I am calling out you and your claim, we have been chatting and laughing about it in the office ( few PH'ers here ) I will been making it better, there is £500 to video you driving as fast as you like, where ever and not get caught cos your not stupid, top speed though Maverick, and there is a extra tonne if you buzz the tower..... ( although you original claim of 135mph has now turned out to be BS and is now down to 78mph more than 10% over and you got caught, you must be a bad driver... ).
Take it up or shut up and find some other thread to flex your broadband incredulous, contradictory, keyboard muscle claims of driving prowess. I want you to embarrass me as you seem to be embarrassing yourself at the mo. Don't spare me, i need a good lesson to be taught and you seem like the driver to do it.
Tampon said:
I am serious, you want £50 we can go in your car I will pay the petrol so your "not out of pocket" and I will watch gps with your speed, you make it 45 mins never going 10% over the speed limit once I will hand over £50, you do, you owe me £50.
That's pretty much what anybody who's passed their advanced driving test has to do for over an hour. Pretty intimidating when you've got a copper sat next to you.
Just a thought but i am sure that many German cars (BNW's for sue) with OBC's have a speed limit function that will sound off if you exceed the speed you set them to opperate at.
I realise that this could be a bit of a faff though with changing limits.
As for the Holier than though peeps if i were on 9 points I'd have to sell the CS as not only would a good fart put the pace by a few MPH but also without the aid of a digital speedo it's quite hard to tell the difference between 27mph and 33.
In fact reading this I think that I am going to get my old sat nav out for SPECs sanity!
I realise that this could be a bit of a faff though with changing limits.
As for the Holier than though peeps if i were on 9 points I'd have to sell the CS as not only would a good fart put the pace by a few MPH but also without the aid of a digital speedo it's quite hard to tell the difference between 27mph and 33.
In fact reading this I think that I am going to get my old sat nav out for SPECs sanity!
Prof Prolapse said:
Tampon said:
I am serious, you want £50 we can go in your car I will pay the petrol so your "not out of pocket" and I will watch gps with your speed, you make it 45 mins never going 10% over the speed limit once I will hand over £50, you do, you owe me £50.
That's pretty much what anybody who's passed their advanced driving test has to do for over an hour. Pretty intimidating when you've got a copper sat next to you.
LeoSayer said:
Prof Prolapse said:
Tampon said:
I am serious, you want £50 we can go in your car I will pay the petrol so your "not out of pocket" and I will watch gps with your speed, you make it 45 mins never going 10% over the speed limit once I will hand over £50, you do, you owe me £50.
That's pretty much what anybody who's passed their advanced driving test has to do for over an hour. Pretty intimidating when you've got a copper sat next to you.
IAM test is a good couse. There's a few things that I don't stick to out of preference but the attention to speed and increasing your observations is always good. You've probably learnt plenty of the latter on a bike though.
Given your current situation I don't think it could hurt. Expect a ribbing about the 9 points when you sit your test though.
Given your current situation I don't think it could hurt. Expect a ribbing about the 9 points when you sit your test though.
Tampon said:
carmonk said:
Tampon said:
carmonk said:
Done. Let me know how I can prove this (at no expense to me) and I'll undertake five of those journeys every day and bill you monthly. If I exceed the speed limit, which I do on most journeys (intentionally) then I'm observant and make sure I don't get caught, or crash. In half a million miles I've been caught once, and that was after doing 135 in a 60 which wasn't something that crept up on me (although the cop car was, I had to slow down to let him catch up).
Ahh so you exceed the limit but your special because you ment to? I didn't crash, didn't get done for dangerous driving, and you got caught doing 135 in a 60, 75mph over the limit ? well I've got 9 points you been banned and you ripping me for being a bad driver ?Tampon said:
I am serious, you want £50 we can go in your car I will pay the petrol so your "not out of pocket" and I will watch gps with your speed, you make it 45 mins never going 10% over the speed limit once I will hand over £50, you do, you owe me £50.
Just send me the £50 and be happy I've saved you the embarrassment. You really think it's impossible to drive 45 minutes without going 110% or more of the limit? You think that if I aimed to drive at 40mph in a 50 I'd end up doing 56mph or more accidentally? That's absolutely ridiculous. If it were worth my while I could drive the rest of my life and not exceed 110% of the limit one single time, with no problems whatsoever.Tampon said:
carmonk said:
"You think that if I aimed to drive at 40mph in a 50 I'd end up doing 56mph or more accidentally? That's absolutely ridiculous"
I never said that, I said you speed, I speed, I been caught, you been caught but I am the bad driver ( I am not even saying I am not, just I want to be extra careful not to lose my license ) and your the machine welding demigod who drives like Senna. You have now claimed that you drive and break the speed limits and drive at top speed ( what ever that means ??? )think you won;t get caught, as and when you choose and yet me wanting to keep under the limit am the muppet ????Tampon said:
Internet driving god warrior, there is a genuine £50 in it and I would be happy for anyone else here to come along as private judge. Lets make it even better, we can video the gps and at the end we can watch it together and every time you unintentionally went over the speed limit by more than 10% it is £50 to me ( I will donate to to afrikids )
Even if you don't believe I can drive normally within 110% of the limit, what's to stop me driving everywhere at 20mph? Do you think in a moment of inattention I might accidentally zoom up to 66mph and lose the bet? Ah, but the rules would change then, wouldn't they? Plus, I wouldn't get out of bed, or even open one eye, for £50.Tampon said:
Seriously I am calling out you and your claim, we have been chatting and laughing about it in the office ( few PH'ers here ) I will been making it better, there is £500 to video you driving as fast as you like, where ever and not get caught cos your not stupid, top speed though Maverick, and there is a extra tonne if you buzz the tower.....
A few PHers. I'm shaking in my boots at the accumulated driving experience you're bringing to bear on me. But no, I don't think I'll drive as fast as possible everywhere and video myself for your amusement. I'm sure you like doing that and postin it on youtube innit, bro, but no, it's not for me. Not that it's in any way a diversion from this thread, which is that you're such an abysmal driver you need a magic gadget to get tell you what you're doing. Many people go their entires lives without picking up a speeding ticket. Do you think this is chance, or that they don't exceed the limit?Tampon said:
( although you original claim of 135mph has now turned out to be BS and is now down to 78mph more than 10% over and you got caught, you must be a bad driver... ).
No, it's not BS, but if you think it is then that's your business. My point was that driving at that speed was intentional, and if I had 9pts on my license I wouldn't have done it and would not have received 3pts. Ask one of your buddies in the office to explain this concept if you're having trouble.Tampon said:
Take it up or shut up and find some other thread to flex your broadband incredulous, contradictory, keyboard muscle claims of driving prowess. I want you to embarrass me as you seem to be embarrassing yourself at the mo. Don't spare me, i need a good lesson to be taught and you seem like the driver to do it.
No, I think I'll probably post in this thread again, just to annoy you. I'm rather pleased at how well I've trolled the troll so far, and I'm looking forward to more fun in this area. Get any more flustered and your boss will be having a word about your lack of productivity. Be sure to let us know if that happens. As far as teaching you anything goes, I'm sure I could, but to be truthful I would rather you get banned so I can laugh about it even more than I am now.I can't seriously believe that you're trying to find ways to prevent you from driving over the speed limit. Do you not have control over your right foot, or do you just not pay attention to the signed limits or glance at your dash every so often?
I can safely say I can quite happily drive to and from work abiding by the limit for that stretch of road and not exceed it, using nothing but my ability to drive and controlling the pressure I exert on the throttle with my right foot.
Its normally something that is taught when taking your driving lessons to prepare you for your test, so it may be beneficial to revisit that stage so you're aware of how that small function works.
Honestly, if you've got caught then fine, you've admitted you're in the wrong and got on with it. In that sense, you're still driving and have been allowed to continue driving as you haven't maxed out your points total. After 3 points, I would have thought knuckling down on things like this would have kicked in. Most people (including me) exceed the speed limit, by a small percentage depending on location, conditions or just whether you fancy your chances and it is do-able, but if you get caught then you're doing something wrong and pay the price for it.
If you want to drive legally, then do exactly that. Pay attention to your surraoundings, monitor the sign-posted speed limit and balance the speed of your car. It isn't rocket science and I'd imagine a fair few people out there are capable of it.
I can safely say I can quite happily drive to and from work abiding by the limit for that stretch of road and not exceed it, using nothing but my ability to drive and controlling the pressure I exert on the throttle with my right foot.
Its normally something that is taught when taking your driving lessons to prepare you for your test, so it may be beneficial to revisit that stage so you're aware of how that small function works.
Honestly, if you've got caught then fine, you've admitted you're in the wrong and got on with it. In that sense, you're still driving and have been allowed to continue driving as you haven't maxed out your points total. After 3 points, I would have thought knuckling down on things like this would have kicked in. Most people (including me) exceed the speed limit, by a small percentage depending on location, conditions or just whether you fancy your chances and it is do-able, but if you get caught then you're doing something wrong and pay the price for it.
If you want to drive legally, then do exactly that. Pay attention to your surraoundings, monitor the sign-posted speed limit and balance the speed of your car. It isn't rocket science and I'd imagine a fair few people out there are capable of it.
Mercedes C or E classes from about 1998 onwards have the speed limiter feature, which can be turned on manually or set permanently if required. I use mine all the time for average speed zones. Set it to a GPS verified 50 (52 by my speedo) and sail past everyone doing an actual 45mph. This has served me very well for a long time.
carmonk said:
Tampon said:
carmonk said:
Tampon said:
carmonk said:
Done. Let me know how I can prove this (at no expense to me) and I'll undertake five of those journeys every day and bill you monthly. If I exceed the speed limit, which I do on most journeys (intentionally) then I'm observant and make sure I don't get caught, or crash. In half a million miles I've been caught once, and that was after doing 135 in a 60 which wasn't something that crept up on me (although the cop car was, I had to slow down to let him catch up).
Ahh so you exceed the limit but your special because you ment to? I didn't crash, didn't get done for dangerous driving, and you got caught doing 135 in a 60, 75mph over the limit ? well I've got 9 points you been banned and you ripping me for being a bad driver ?Tampon said:
I am serious, you want £50 we can go in your car I will pay the petrol so your "not out of pocket" and I will watch gps with your speed, you make it 45 mins never going 10% over the speed limit once I will hand over £50, you do, you owe me £50.
Just send me the £50 and be happy I've saved you the embarrassment. You really think it's impossible to drive 45 minutes without going 110% or more of the limit? You think that if I aimed to drive at 40mph in a 50 I'd end up doing 56mph or more accidentally? That's absolutely ridiculous. If it were worth my while I could drive the rest of my life and not exceed 110% of the limit one single time, with no problems whatsoever.Tampon said:
carmonk said:
"You think that if I aimed to drive at 40mph in a 50 I'd end up doing 56mph or more accidentally? That's absolutely ridiculous"
I never said that, I said you speed, I speed, I been caught, you been caught but I am the bad driver ( I am not even saying I am not, just I want to be extra careful not to lose my license ) and your the machine welding demigod who drives like Senna. You have now claimed that you drive and break the speed limits and drive at top speed ( what ever that means ??? )think you won;t get caught, as and when you choose and yet me wanting to keep under the limit am the muppet ????Tampon said:
Internet driving god warrior, there is a genuine £50 in it and I would be happy for anyone else here to come along as private judge. Lets make it even better, we can video the gps and at the end we can watch it together and every time you unintentionally went over the speed limit by more than 10% it is £50 to me ( I will donate to to afrikids )
Even if you don't believe I can drive normally within 110% of the limit, what's to stop me driving everywhere at 20mph? Do you think in a moment of inattention I might accidentally zoom up to 66mph and lose the bet? Ah, but the rules would change then, wouldn't they? Plus, I wouldn't get out of bed, or even open one eye, for £50.Tampon said:
Seriously I am calling out you and your claim, we have been chatting and laughing about it in the office ( few PH'ers here ) I will been making it better, there is £500 to video you driving as fast as you like, where ever and not get caught cos your not stupid, top speed though Maverick, and there is a extra tonne if you buzz the tower.....
A few PHers. I'm shaking in my boots at the accumulated driving experience you're bringing to bear on me. But no, I don't think I'll drive as fast as possible everywhere and video myself for your amusement. I'm sure you like doing that and postin it on youtube innit, bro, but no, it's not for me. Not that it's in any way a diversion from this thread, which is that you're such an abysmal driver you need a magic gadget to get tell you what you're doing. Many people go their entires lives without picking up a speeding ticket. Do you think this is chance, or that they don't exceed the limit?Tampon said:
( although you original claim of 135mph has now turned out to be BS and is now down to 78mph more than 10% over and you got caught, you must be a bad driver... ).
No, it's not BS, but if you think it is then that's your business. My point was that driving at that speed was intentional, and if I had 9pts on my license I wouldn't have done it and would not have received 3pts. Ask one of your buddies in the office to explain this concept if you're having trouble.Tampon said:
Take it up or shut up and find some other thread to flex your broadband incredulous, contradictory, keyboard muscle claims of driving prowess. I want you to embarrass me as you seem to be embarrassing yourself at the mo. Don't spare me, i need a good lesson to be taught and you seem like the driver to do it.
No, I think I'll probably post in this thread again, just to annoy you. I'm rather pleased at how well I've trolled the troll so far, and I'm looking forward to more fun in this area. Get any more flustered and your boss will be having a word about your lack of productivity. Be sure to let us know if that happens. As far as teaching you anything goes, I'm sure I could, but to be truthful I would rather you get banned so I can laugh about it even more than I am now.As for not speeding ever, it isn't easy, you claim to be able to do it ( which I called you out on but you won't do it ) but have in your own words stated this month on another thread, I break the limit every day and and am fine with it. You can't go one day without doing it !
As for any half decent driver being able to do it, no they can't thats why there is tolrable limits set by the police and in driving tests because it is unbelievably hard to not go over the speed limit at all, I have been trying to recently and it requires a lot of looking at the speedo. Read here, advanced drivers are telling you it is part of their test and they sweated it, and you with your driving experience claim not to be a advanced driver and would struggle, no matter what you claim on a internet forum.
I am flawed, have been caught and know my limitations, I want help to drive better, I feel a audio warning when I go over by 1mph ( something I doubt you would be able to tell if you did ) so I don't do it, there by driving safer and keeping my license. You have made silly claims about your speeding and that you got caught but seem to find it proper to be telling other seeking help what to do. I won't be taking your advise as I don't think your telling the truth or have ever tried to do what I have to.
I am not flustered, annoyed, vexed or distempered by you, I am calm as a hindu cow ( alright that is a slight lie I am quite amused at some of your claims and wriggling out of proving them and now you attitude to 50 pounds, reminds me of loadsamoney).
As for my boss being annoyed init bro, he won't as he is me! You aren;t winding me up, you seem to think I am a troll ? I have been a member here for nearly 6 yesars now, post up mainly in the specific topic sections, not really renowned for argueing or trolling, check my history, I am not sure you know what troll means (One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption or upset) I asked advice, have recieved some and had a bit of a laugh with some of the pisstakes, you posted up with nothing to do with offering advise but to have a dig and be sanctimonious, made some wild claims and statements then gone back on some of them, I think you are trolling buddy, I am just not capitulating to it.
I have called you out on your claims and you seem to not want to do it. There is 550 quid on the table if you can do you you have claimed ( extra 100 if you buzz the tower ! ) so would you open your eye for that ? Your worried about speeding on camera we could turn the camera off for that and then switch it on afterwards ( or unless you get caught of course ).
Easy to make claims be offered cold cash to prove it and then not do it. Back it up, you want to drive at 20mph everywhere then great but we will be doing a bit of driving on the motorway and you might find it a problem but you can still have the money. I don't think you will slip from 20 to 66 mph, but I think yo will find it hard to drive normally and not go over even once, you keep say it is a piece of piss, so do it, earn some money.
I haven't changed the rules, simple, you go over 10% of the marked speed limit with two others in the car, normal driving, radio on bit of chat, different roads, allow it to be filmed you get the money, every time we go over ( you can see the video afterward ) I pluck a 50 out of your pocket and give it to Afrikids, you wouldn't notice a couple of hundred quid if it did go quite to your plans and you slipped a couple of times, I mean you wouldn't open your eye for 50 right? so what a few hundred ?
Back it up rather than flinging s
t, you said you can, I said you can't and put money up, wheres yours ? Wombat thinks it is easy money so prove yo king of the internet swingers like you said you would earlierIf you won't do what you say you can do, I feel your contribution to me is worthless. You can of course post away and try and get a rise from me but alas, I think you will fail and it will turn into a boring thread of quoted quotes ( although you have never actually showed what I said, I have of you ).
Troll or do, which one you going to do ? I think you will argue, call me a crap driver who shouldn't have a license, claiming again how easy it is to do, make some excuse for not doing it, ignore salient points about accusations you made of me and been defended and ingore sections that are close to the bone for you ? lets see.
I put the smilie so you don't think I am sitting here steaming !
Bit of good news, got a letter through from Thames Valley police saying that I could attend a speed awareness course and forgo the 3 points, against what the nice copper who nicked me said, result, apparently it had to do with my "timely" response and payment of the original fine! massive sigh of release.
Right now where the redline........
Right now where the redline........
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