Toyota Corolla T sport 190bhp
Discussion
kentao said:
Hi guys im new to the forums. I'm looking for some advice on the Corolla Tsport.
I already own a Gen 6 Celica GT but looking to upgrade to something alittle bit newer with slightly better performance than i already have.
Trying to book test drives at the moment to get an experience of LIFT and see if its the right car for me.
What should i look out for and is there a better alternative out their for roughly the same cash (4000)
Thanks
Kenny
Add two driven wheels to those you already have. I already own a Gen 6 Celica GT but looking to upgrade to something alittle bit newer with slightly better performance than i already have.
Trying to book test drives at the moment to get an experience of LIFT and see if its the right car for me.
What should i look out for and is there a better alternative out their for roughly the same cash (4000)
Thanks
Kenny
I have a 2002 celica with the 2zzge vvtli engine and it never uses any oil and i regularly check it. The oil issues affect a small number of vvti engines up to 2002.
I quite like the corolla but agree that the supercharged one would be my recommendation, but why not consider a Celica t sport or GT?
I quite like the corolla but agree that the supercharged one would be my recommendation, but why not consider a Celica t sport or GT?
Interesting comments so far,
i love my GT but always wanted the GT4 i`m looking for something more economical and reasonable maintenance costs.
i was reading on the corolla club that the facelift model(2005>) comes with stiffer suspension and a front strut brace. Can the ones who stated the corolla was squishy and rubbish at handling state if it was pre 2005 incase Toyota have fixed the issue with the revision.
I'm undecided on the Gen 7, prefer the looks of the older ones eg 5/6 and think the corolla would be the better allround car.
All i know is it needs to be
jap
around 4-5k to buy
no more than 10 years old
and deliver more than 180bhp
The corolla on paper looks a lot of car for not a lot of money.
Thanks for the opinions so far been impressed with the feedback and enjoying my time on the forums
Thanks
Kenny
i love my GT but always wanted the GT4 i`m looking for something more economical and reasonable maintenance costs.
i was reading on the corolla club that the facelift model(2005>) comes with stiffer suspension and a front strut brace. Can the ones who stated the corolla was squishy and rubbish at handling state if it was pre 2005 incase Toyota have fixed the issue with the revision.
I'm undecided on the Gen 7, prefer the looks of the older ones eg 5/6 and think the corolla would be the better allround car.
All i know is it needs to be
jap
around 4-5k to buy
no more than 10 years old
and deliver more than 180bhp
The corolla on paper looks a lot of car for not a lot of money.
Thanks for the opinions so far been impressed with the feedback and enjoying my time on the forums
Thanks
Kenny
kentao said:
Interesting comments so far,
i love my GT but always wanted the GT4 i`m looking for something more economical and reasonable maintenance costs.
i was reading on the corolla club that the facelift model(2005>) comes with stiffer suspension and a front strut brace. Can the ones who stated the corolla was squishy and rubbish at handling state if it was pre 2005 incase Toyota have fixed the issue with the revision.
I'm undecided on the Gen 7, prefer the looks of the older ones eg 5/6 and think the corolla would be the better allround car.
All i know is it needs to be
jap
around 4-5k to buy
no more than 10 years old
and deliver more than 180bhp
The corolla on paper looks a lot of car for not a lot of money.
Thanks for the opinions so far been impressed with the feedback and enjoying my time on the forums
Thanks
Kenny
Go for the EP3 Civic Type R. Its better.i love my GT but always wanted the GT4 i`m looking for something more economical and reasonable maintenance costs.
i was reading on the corolla club that the facelift model(2005>) comes with stiffer suspension and a front strut brace. Can the ones who stated the corolla was squishy and rubbish at handling state if it was pre 2005 incase Toyota have fixed the issue with the revision.
I'm undecided on the Gen 7, prefer the looks of the older ones eg 5/6 and think the corolla would be the better allround car.
All i know is it needs to be
jap
around 4-5k to buy
no more than 10 years old
and deliver more than 180bhp
The corolla on paper looks a lot of car for not a lot of money.
Thanks for the opinions so far been impressed with the feedback and enjoying my time on the forums
Thanks
Kenny
Civic every time (and I didn't think that was as good as the press cracked it up to be). Had a T sport company car in 2003 and it was sh8te. Didn't look remotely like a performance car, off-roader ride height, ugly skinny alloys, grandad-spec seats. Engine was bonkers but it never felt anywhere near as fast as a Civic R. Terrible road noise from short gearing, gutless below the 6200rpm cam shift and the electric steering was terrible. Do not buy this car. There are so many better hot hatches/performance cars out there.
hora said:
EDLT said:
Apparently they start using oil at high mileages, can be up to 1 litre per 1000 miles. So not terrible but a lot of people don't check their oil levels very often.
I'd go for the supercharged version too, was it available as a 5-door for the ultimate sleeper effect?
Are you SERIOUS? I thought that was just on 1.8 VVTI N/A's from 2001 to early 2004?!!!I'd go for the supercharged version too, was it available as a 5-door for the ultimate sleeper effect?
The key to enjoying a Corolla T Sport is to not think of it as a hot hatch. Don't consider it a Honda Civic Type R rival because it's clearly a very different kind of car and a fairly unique one, for better or for worse.
Instead think of it as a shopping hatch or something that you can noodle about in and enjoy its refinement, its supple suspension, its reliability and its practicality; in other words it's sheer Corolla-ness, the same formula that worked for x million buyers around the world.
But, on the occasion when you require it, you can prod it into nutter mode above 6200rpm when all hell breaks loose. And then relax. I like the fact that here is a car that demands so little but which has this weird split personality. If I were hooning everywhere or tracking the car I'd certtainly look at the Corolla last in a list of hatches, but otherwise it makes a lot of sense. It just requires a certain viewpoint, I guess.
Instead think of it as a shopping hatch or something that you can noodle about in and enjoy its refinement, its supple suspension, its reliability and its practicality; in other words it's sheer Corolla-ness, the same formula that worked for x million buyers around the world.
But, on the occasion when you require it, you can prod it into nutter mode above 6200rpm when all hell breaks loose. And then relax. I like the fact that here is a car that demands so little but which has this weird split personality. If I were hooning everywhere or tracking the car I'd certtainly look at the Corolla last in a list of hatches, but otherwise it makes a lot of sense. It just requires a certain viewpoint, I guess.
hora said:
Well yes, if you then decided to turn the wheel and go through some bends.
I really do question putting that much 'bhp' into something so fundamentally wrong (as a basic car its a washing machine on wheels and drives as such).
At least the mk1 Focus is fundamentally a good car at its core. Its dynamics and even that only had 170bhp tops.
Dont forget the Mk1 Focus RS, 212bhp. But I get your point.I really do question putting that much 'bhp' into something so fundamentally wrong (as a basic car its a washing machine on wheels and drives as such).
At least the mk1 Focus is fundamentally a good car at its core. Its dynamics and even that only had 170bhp tops.
When I lived at home I shared one of these with my Mum. The split personality of it really did the job. I could hoon it and my Mum could drive how she does. makes a good noise and when pushed will keep up with other cars in that ballpark. They do pull quite stongly if you limit the passengers. Start putting lots of weight in and the lack of torque makes itself known.
Hers is a 52 plate and is on about 70,000 miles. Never uses a drop of oil and has passed all mots with no faults. The only problem we have had is a rear brake caliper seizing on.
The boot is huge and with the rear seats folded I can lie in it flat and I'm 6'2.
The gearbox ratios are a bit long. It would be better if 1-5 had been short and 6th was really long for the motorway. It does have a nice feel to it though, very precise.
It will average 30-35mpg unless you hoon everywhere.
Don't worry too much about the people on here moaning about the handling. It's not the sportiest ride in the world but it is safe and predictable. Unlike the real hot hatches it absorbs all the bumps and surface changes encountered on a B road and won't skip around.
I have taken it to Santa Pod and there it outdragged a Clio 182 despite me fluffing the start (first timer) and it was also plenty good enough at the Ring.
Hers has the fabric seats and I have never noticed myself falling out of them although maybe my larger frame fits them better.
Hers does not have the Satnav as the dealer told us it was rubbish.
Ultimately it's your decision so have a test drive, if you can find a Kompressor get that one, it loses a bit of the lift kick but it gets to it much faster and they have lowered suspension.
Silverstone tuning do a supercharger kit and suspension and brake upgrades for the normal one anyway.
We were considering selling it at one point and I test drove an EP3 Civic type R. It didnt sound as nice and there was no difference in performance just a bumpier ride, which was too rough for my Mum.
I also tried a Clio 182 but the driving position in that was worse than the Corolla and the engine was dull and its not as big/ practical and again no faster.
It's still a relatively unknown car so does have a bit of a sleeper factor to it, I have surprised a fair few people with it.
A friend of mine did have the facelifted model but I did not have a drive of it so can't comment on the handling.
This is my mates one with my E30. Mum's is a black non facelift model.
Hers is a 52 plate and is on about 70,000 miles. Never uses a drop of oil and has passed all mots with no faults. The only problem we have had is a rear brake caliper seizing on.
The boot is huge and with the rear seats folded I can lie in it flat and I'm 6'2.
The gearbox ratios are a bit long. It would be better if 1-5 had been short and 6th was really long for the motorway. It does have a nice feel to it though, very precise.
It will average 30-35mpg unless you hoon everywhere.
Don't worry too much about the people on here moaning about the handling. It's not the sportiest ride in the world but it is safe and predictable. Unlike the real hot hatches it absorbs all the bumps and surface changes encountered on a B road and won't skip around.
I have taken it to Santa Pod and there it outdragged a Clio 182 despite me fluffing the start (first timer) and it was also plenty good enough at the Ring.
Hers has the fabric seats and I have never noticed myself falling out of them although maybe my larger frame fits them better.
Hers does not have the Satnav as the dealer told us it was rubbish.
Ultimately it's your decision so have a test drive, if you can find a Kompressor get that one, it loses a bit of the lift kick but it gets to it much faster and they have lowered suspension.
Silverstone tuning do a supercharger kit and suspension and brake upgrades for the normal one anyway.
We were considering selling it at one point and I test drove an EP3 Civic type R. It didnt sound as nice and there was no difference in performance just a bumpier ride, which was too rough for my Mum.
I also tried a Clio 182 but the driving position in that was worse than the Corolla and the engine was dull and its not as big/ practical and again no faster.
It's still a relatively unknown car so does have a bit of a sleeper factor to it, I have surprised a fair few people with it.
A friend of mine did have the facelifted model but I did not have a drive of it so can't comment on the handling.
This is my mates one with my E30. Mum's is a black non facelift model.
rallycross said:
Cant beleive anyone who has driven one would have anything good to say about them - apart from comfy and reliable.
Why?? They are really not that bad. I had a 325 e46 at the same time as having the tsport and quite frankly the 325 felt lardy and slow (though in the real world was faster) . Its not a rice rocket its a hatch with a split personality. It can certainly hustle when asked to and the chassis is fine providing you accept its strengths and weaknesses.RobCrezz said:
250bhp from a modified supercharged 1.8? thats not that impressive really.
Depends what you compare it with - the VW 1.8 SC engines made 160Bhp, the Merc 1.8 Kompressor makes 181Bhp so as standard 217Bhp is pretty good, a remap/exhaust/air filter will take it to 250Bhp+ for less than a grand. T Sport Compressor's can be had for £6k so for £7k you have something which looks like grannies shopping mobile but will keep up with Impreza's, 330i's, Boxster's etc (only on the straight bits obviously, you'd crash at the first bend) - a good punt for a 'sleeper' car. hora said:
I drove a Smart 'for two'- that 'felt' fast for what it was. Something to do with having a turbo regardless of the cc. ....It'd probably out-handle a Corolla. 
Welcome to your opinion hopelessly wrong though it is.I am no fanboy and rarely ever use my "rolla" but its proven itself perfectly capable when asked.
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