Is this really as bad as it looks.. :(

Is this really as bad as it looks.. :(

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BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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This tyre has a rim protector, the one in the OP doesn't. smile


Variomatic

2,392 posts

162 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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deveng said:
Where did you get that from? Never came across that running MOT centres. Have seen longer than 25mm cuts go through MOTs (IIRC length of a cut isn't even measured, and 25mm deep would be a hole since sidewalls arent an inch thick (some beads are but not the sidewall itself)). And what is a 10% cut? Depth? How are you supposed to measure this using the tools provided for an MOT (which doesn't include a calculator).
smile I think he got it from C&U regs (reflected in the MOT manual afaik)

As far as C&U is concerned, here's chapter and verse on tyre condition / damage:

[quote]27.— Condition and maintenance of tyres
(1) Save as provided in paragraphs (2), (3) and (4), a wheeled motor vehicle or trailer a wheel of
which is fitted with a pneumatic tyre shall not be used on a road, if—
(a) the tyre is unsuitable having regard to the use to which the motor vehicle or trailer is
being put or to the types of tyres fitted to its other wheels;
(b) the tyre is not so inflated as to make it fit for the use to which the motor vehicle or
trailer is being put;
(c) the tyre has a cut in excess of 25 mm or 10% of the section width of the tyre, whichever is the greater, measured in any direction on the outside of the tyre and deep enough to reach the ply or cord;
(d) the tyre has any lump, bulge or tear caused by separation or partial failure of its structure;
(e) the tyre has any of the ply or cord exposed;
.
.
.
So, any cut up to 25mm long, or "10% of the sectional width of the tyre", is considered ok even if it reaches the cord. The sectional width of the tyre is that magic 185 / 195 / 225 / whatever figure from the tyre sizes that everyone likes to brag about (personally mine are 135 :P ) so 10% of anything narrower than 255s will be less than 25mm anyway and a 25mm limit will apply to cuts.

If (as in this case) a cut doesn't expose the ply or cord then it can be as long as you like. The only reason for the rubber outside the cord is to protect the cord - it adds virtually nothing to the strength of the tyre.

The only potential concern with that tyre is internal damage from the impact, which you can't be 100% sure about without taking it off the rim. That said, if there's no sign at all of bulging in the area then even that sort of damage is unlikely but probably best to make it a spare just in case.

roscozs

477 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Looks like the rim protector is split as long as the cords arent visable I wouldnt change the tyre. However you clearly like the corners. Bit of scrubbing on the outer edges there.

chevronb37

6,471 posts

187 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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OlberFKWJ said:
chevronb37 said:
ian_touring said:
Tonberry said:
Who else guessed it was a 'Cyclone' alloy from a 306 from just looking at the picture?

....just me then getmecoat
+1
The Question is, Gti-6 or rallye?
+1. Could be a DTurbo maybe?
nerd

Would have to be a later HDi model. IIRC the DTurbo had the slatted alloys.
You're getting well over my head into geek territory now! Did we ever ascertain the car or did an argument break out about tyre construction diverting attention away from the real issue?

OlberFKWJ

14,101 posts

234 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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It's a GTi6, as above.

HDi


DTurbo


I think it's time for me to go to bed!

gareth.e

Original Poster:

2,071 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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roscozs said:
However you clearly like the corners. Bit of scrubbing on the outer edges there.
drivingbiggrin




MOT booked for thursday morning and might also pop into a tire changers to see what they think..
(car is currently jacked up as I'm trying to fix a few issues)



As for my opinion on the tire, I think I'll be super glueing it unless the garage and tire changers tell me I will die..

Variomatic

2,392 posts

162 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Contact adhesive - it's more flexible wink

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Petrolhead_Rich said:
£60 for a new tyre or risk of this:

Touch of hysteria there...

I've had two front tyres blow at 70 and 75. Didn't even know they'd gone until I stopped to investigate what I'd hit.

After buying another car, I discovered the previous owner suffered a blown NSF at an indicated 165...allegedly.





fluffnik

20,156 posts

228 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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edo said:
Can we summarise this thus:

Some would change it OP, some wouldn't, you decide what to do!
nono

Those who know little of tyres or are fanatical about appearance would change it, those with any understanding of tyre construction would realise that the damage was purely cosmetic and keep it.

Don't waste your money.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

228 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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BliarOut said:
This tyre has a rim protector, the one in the OP doesn't. smile

Yup, but the damage to the OP's tyre is no more structural than damage to the rim protector would be.

Only difference is that the OP also has a scuffed alloy...

gareth.e

Original Poster:

2,071 posts

190 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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The Verdict is in.....

MOT Man = Cars in good shape, just need some new anti roll bar bushings

Tire Man = ITS FINE MATE


Tire won't be getting changed any time soon drivinghehe

The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Thursday 24th March 2011
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A victory for common sense