STOLEN MK4 GOLF R32 - HOW!??!?!?

STOLEN MK4 GOLF R32 - HOW!??!?!?

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powwerr

1,978 posts

173 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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wackojacko said:
Plus it's a fast VAG *dealers* love R32's and RS4's etc.
EFA. wink


The conversation has came up among some friends before. If you work in a Vag garage and have the car, all you need is a few details and you can code a key to it.

When was the last time it was near a VAG garage?

dylan0451

1,040 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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wolf1 said:
If you haven't owned it from new there's nothing to say that a previous owner hadn't had an extra key cut and coded due to loss etc. Someone may have had that key and seen the registration on fleabay and armed with your address removed the car.
that hadn't even occured to me - you ask the buyer to see some id - licence etc. before/as you sign the v5. remember the street name and town, then, using that extra spare key/fob just go and nick it back a few weeks/months later.

i guess the car would need to be broken for parts but still...

  • goes off to check how much new lock profiles + fob code would be*

zeb

3,205 posts

219 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Hub said:
Jo Po said:
I know of THREE R32's stolen in Glasgow since the start of February.

"R32s seem to be flavour of the month for car thieves"

http://www.adrianflux.co.uk/news/story/279/
worrying

why have they become 'flavour of the month' ?

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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zeb said:
worrying

why have they become 'flavour of the month' ?
They've been flavour of the month for some time now.

Throughout my 3 year ownership of one....I was regularly reading threads on the owners clubs about thefts. Seemed like a weekly/ monthly occurance at times sadly frown


OP I feel for you mate.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I honestly don't know why people let this happen.

All my cars have a lojak system on them. Its so easy.

You simply buy a £70 device from CPC. wire it to power in the car and put a free sim card it it with £10 on it. It has its own battery so even if they disconnect power it'll run for a good two days. Its about half the size of a mobile phone and you can hide it anywhere it the car.

You'll never stop people breaking into your cars and hot wiring the ignition. Theres too much information on how to do it out there.

But with a lojak device you simply make a phone call to the device when you realise the cars gone and it texts you back with a lat/lon that you type into google.

They'll never find the device and anywhere in range of a mobile phone and they're toast. You can actually arrive on their doorstep.

Round where we live there are cars abandoned for 24 hours at the side of the road. From what I gather these are cars nicked and then left to see if they have any location system on them before the crimnial come to pick them up and take them on. If we spot them we report them to the police, but the reason they do this is because its easier than stripping the whole car down to nothing to find a locator device.

For the price of a couple of tins of polish you could have your pride and joy totally protected


Karlos69

900 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Rs2oo said:
Years ago, a friend advertised his BMW on ebay - (not ebays fault) Someone test drove it and later the same night it was stolen. The thief, the guy who test-drove it, asked to see all the paperwork and spare key. He stole the spare key and cleverly replaced it with another key. My friend didn't notice the swap, why would he ! It only came to light when the car was found by the Police and the second key was noticed to be a different.
This was done to the guy across the road from me whilst trying to sell his X5. Pretty slick little scam.

S3K04

138 posts

169 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Julian, unfortunately criminals use devices to jam phone and or GPS signals

Crow555

1,037 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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julian64 said:
I honestly don't know why people let this happen.

All my cars have a lojak system on them. Its so easy.

You simply buy a £70 device from CPC. wire it to power in the car and put a free sim card it it with £10 on it. It has its own battery so even if they disconnect power it'll run for a good two days. Its about half the size of a mobile phone and you can hide it anywhere it the car.

You'll never stop people breaking into your cars and hot wiring the ignition. Theres too much information on how to do it out there.

But with a lojak device you simply make a phone call to the device when you realise the cars gone and it texts you back with a lat/lon that you type into google.

They'll never find the device and anywhere in range of a mobile phone and they're toast. You can actually arrive on their doorstep.

Round where we live there are cars abandoned for 24 hours at the side of the road. From what I gather these are cars nicked and then left to see if they have any location system on them before the crimnial come to pick them up and take them on. If we spot them we report them to the police, but the reason they do this is because its easier than stripping the whole car down to nothing to find a locator device.

For the price of a couple of tins of polish you could have your pride and joy totally protected

I don't suppose you have a link for that? I couldn't find it on CPC or google, just Lojack for Laptops.

Acheron

643 posts

165 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Hub said:
"R32s seem to be flavour of the month for car thieves"

http://www.adrianflux.co.uk/news/story/279/
Funny you should say this, we had an R32 stolen at the start of the year from my area, same situation as the OP, left on driveway then gone, no break in or forced entry.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Crow555 said:
I don't suppose you have a link for that? I couldn't find it on CPC or google, just Lojack for Laptops.
Obviously the last year has had an effect on the price

http://cpc.farnell.com/alaska/apt-14/personal-trac...


Crow555

1,037 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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julian64 said:
Obviously the last year has had an effect on the price

http://cpc.farnell.com/alaska/apt-14/personal-trac...
Ta very muchly, I may invest in one of these.

graduate106

Original Poster:

8 posts

158 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Very interesting about r32s being the flavour of the month. I wonder how they are all being stolen??

It has never been to a VW garage I the time I've had it so can't imagine anyone has coded a key anytime since I've had it...

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Crow555 said:
julian64 said:
I honestly don't know why people let this happen.

All my cars have a lojak system on them. Its so easy.

You simply buy a £70 device from CPC. wire it to power in the car and put a free sim card it it with £10 on it. It has its own battery so even if they disconnect power it'll run for a good two days. Its about half the size of a mobile phone and you can hide it anywhere it the car.

You'll never stop people breaking into your cars and hot wiring the ignition. Theres too much information on how to do it out there.

But with a lojak device you simply make a phone call to the device when you realise the cars gone and it texts you back with a lat/lon that you type into google.

They'll never find the device and anywhere in range of a mobile phone and they're toast. You can actually arrive on their doorstep.

Round where we live there are cars abandoned for 24 hours at the side of the road. From what I gather these are cars nicked and then left to see if they have any location system on them before the crimnial come to pick them up and take them on. If we spot them we report them to the police, but the reason they do this is because its easier than stripping the whole car down to nothing to find a locator device.

For the price of a couple of tins of polish you could have your pride and joy totally protected

I don't suppose you have a link for that? I couldn't find it on CPC or google, just Lojack for Laptops.
While a mighty fine suggestion, don't the PAYG sim cards need topping up every 30 days?

Kiltox

14,622 posts

159 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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jon- said:
While a mighty fine suggestion, don't the PAYG sim cards need topping up every 30 days?
Not nowadays - however you might find problems if you go more than 6 months without using it. Worthwhile testing the device every few months to prevent the SIM from deactivating.

There's a few cheaper alternatives here http://s.dealextreme.com/search/gps+tracker - shipping direct from HK.

Only problem I can see is that you can buy GPS and GSM blockers from the same source - would render these devices useless.

Crow555

1,037 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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It's worrying that you can buy GPS jammer blockers for your cigarette lighter port just below those. Kinda renders a tracker pointless does it not?

redtwin

7,518 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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For £1 you can wire in a hidden switch that cuts power to the fuel pump. No matter how many keys get stolen/cut/coded etc the car won't be driven anywhere. Of course that won't stop it being towed away, but there really is no reason why cars are still being stolen with keys.

I can't imagine owning a high value or highly desirable car without a secondary means of security.

julian64

14,317 posts

255 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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jon- said:
While a mighty fine suggestion, don't the PAYG sim cards need topping up every 30 days?
Nope I've been using the same £10 over the last year! I tend to check it every couple of months. It costs the price of a text on the £10 every time you call it.

Gwagon111

4,422 posts

162 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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If a pro thief wants your car, they'll get it. All you can do is slow them down a bit. Most of the electronic security devices are complete ste. If you have a good mix of physical and electronic security systems, a chancer may be deterred and move on to an easier target, a pro won't have any issues usually. Don't believe everything you hear down the pub about nicking cars though. There are some very clever security devices, that "my mates mates cousins mates mate" can't knobble in 10 seconds flat.

Edited by Gwagon111 on Tuesday 22 March 17:41

Kiltox

14,622 posts

159 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Crow555 said:
It's worrying that you can buy GPS jammer blockers for your cigarette lighter port just below those. Kinda renders a tracker pointless does it not?
Yep, they're widely available. Illegal to own or use in this country but then it's illegal to steal cars hehe

Gwagon111

4,422 posts

162 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Kiltox said:
Yep, they're widely available. Illegal to own or use in this country but then it's illegal to steal cars hehe
Decent trackers use GPS and UHF radio signals together.