STOLEN MK4 GOLF R32 - HOW!??!?!?

[ccr32]

When I have needed a new key in the past, I have had to provide proof of ownership via a V5 and photo ID. As has been said though, that is a human check... I guess it only takes one person who doesn't mind being paid off to tick the boxes on the computer system when issuing the key...

ETA - sorry to hear about your loss though. Knowing they were a hot target for tea leaves, I was very cautious when selling mine, blurring out the number plate, not giving any details of where it was kept, and meeting in a mutual location for test drives and the like. Unfortunately just the way of the world these days...

Edited by ccr32 on Tuesday 22 March 22:37

[drivin_me_nuts]

From reading this thread...

... is it fair to deduce that none of the major (tracker / trackstar) tracking system is actually any good because in effect both the GPS and UHF components of the signal can be readily blocked by a simple plug into the ashtray device?

[Kiltox]

drivin_me_nuts said:

From reading this thread...

... is it fair to deduce that none of the major (tracker / trackstar) tracking system is actually any good because in effect both the GPS and UHF components of the signal can be readily blocked by a simple plug into the ashtray device?

Not sure about blocking UHF.......

I know GPS can easily be blocked (however you'd need to maintain power to it constantly otherwise it'd pop up on the radar....)

[Gwagon111]

drivin_me_nuts said:

From reading this thread...

... is it fair to deduce that none of the major (tracker / trackstar) tracking system is actually any good because in effect both the GPS and UHF components of the signal can be readily blocked by a simple plug into the ashtray device?

You won't be able to block both signals effectively 100 percent of the time. There's a very good chance one or other system will be showing a signal. Short of ripping out the tracker, it should still lead to the car being found. If you try and rip it out, it's designed to balls up the electrical systems of the car.

[Kiltox]

Gwagon111 said:

If you try and rip it out, it's designed to balls up the electrical systems of the car.

Surely if you know what you are doing it can be taken out just as easily as it can be put in?

[Gwagon111]

Kiltox said:

Surely if you know what you are doing it can be taken out just as easily as it can be put in?

Motion sensors will set it off whilst it's being tampered with. They will always be located in roughly the same place, it's designed to make it very difficult to get rid of, and you have to actually wire it into the loom in such a way that it can't be removed without immobilising the cars electrical system.

[M3333]

A few months ago i lost the keys to my vehicle whilst working on a site 200 miles from home.

Called the RAC expecting to be recovered to a dealership or home.

They gave me a number to call, but basically a guy arrives in a Van, cuts and programs a key and i drove home, all within an hour.

I can only assume that databases with key codes exist.

Vehicle was a Ford.

Made me wonder........i am sure someone in this trade could make a nice little earner with the criminal community....

[Wayney]

It's taking candy from a baby!

1) A simple HPI Check with give u the VIN.

2) You've advertised your address, so they know where to find it.

3) They have some one on the inside who can get a blank uncoded key cut.

4) Turn up to the car, the key will open the doors as it's cut from factory & deactivate the alarm. However will not deactivate the immobiliser as theirs a code in the ECU & the key needs to have that code in order to start the car (ie Key Coding)

5) The theif now have the car open, can locate the ECU plug in, where the VW Diagnostics go! With any simple laptop & the right software. They then code the key with the security code of ECU (takes a min or 2).

6) Then the car will start up, no problem.

I've seen it for my self 1st hand. Lost the only key MK4 Golf. Called the dealer who wanted to see V5, DL & Utility bill in person. Ordered the key (2 weeks). Key arrived, opened the car, RAC towed me to my dealer. The chap plugged in laptop & 2mins later & it was all coded & I was away

Edited by Wayney on Wednesday 23 March 03:54

[Wayney]

What pissed me off is it took the chap 2mins to do & the main dealer billed me 1/2 an hours labour!!!!

[Liam79]

It's a major flaw on ebays part allowing your address to be put up like that for everyone to see. Anyway good luck with either getting the car back or a straight forward payout.

[Crow555]

Gwagon111 said:

Kiltox said:

Surely if you know what you are doing it can be taken out just as easily as it can be put in?

Motion sensors will set it off whilst it's being tampered with. They will always be located in roughly the same place, it's designed to make it very difficult to get rid of, and you have to actually wire it into the loom in such a way that it can't be removed without immobilising the cars electrical system.

Is this with the £100-odd device mentioned earlier or is that more to do with the full fat Tracker based systems that you pay a premium for?

I clearly have a lot of research to do with these devices.

[saaby93]

Liam79 said:

It's a major flaw on ebays part allowing your address to be put up like that for everyone to see. Anyway good luck with either getting the car back or a straight forward payout.

Dont most traders put their address?
It's Robin Theif that's to blame

[jake15919]

I've no idea why so many of you are having a go at the guy for publishing his address when the big mistake was allowing the car numberplate to be photographed. From there it will take a pro thief one quick call to find out all yours and the cars details (computer databases are great). Quick search on Google will give him a layout of your house and local area. Even if the thief doesn't get a copy key as others have said a pro will be able to disable almost any alarm and your immobilizer can be worked on at a later date once he's buggered off with your car.

I am genuinely stunned when I see peoples profiles on this site with photos of their pride and joy number plate showing. You might as well send the thief an invite.

[anonymous-user]

jake15919 said:

I've no idea why so many of you are having a go at the guy for publishing his address when the big mistake was allowing the car numberplate to be photographed. From there it will take a pro thief one quick call to find out all yours and the cars details (computer databases are great). Quick search on Google will give him a layout of your house and local area. Even if the thief doesn't get a copy key as others have said a pro will be able to disable almost any alarm and your immobilizer can be worked on at a later date once he's buggered off with your car.

I am genuinely stunned when I see peoples profiles on this site with photos of their pride and joy number plate showing. You might as well send the thief an invite.

Do you wear a tin foil hat?

[jake15919]

St John Smythe said:

Do you wear a tin foil hat?

Yes..... but who told you?

[Liam79]

saaby93 said:

ont most traders put their address?
It's Robin Theif that's to blame

What I was getting at is, surely if he's selling a private car and nothing to do with his business they should treat it as private.
Don't pistonheads ask for your reg no and display it on the ad? Honestly can't remember.

[anonymous-user]

jake15919 said:

Yes..... but who told you?

'they' did

[Kiltox]

Wayney said:

4) Turn up to the car, the key will open the doors as it's cut from factory & deactivate the alarm. However will not deactivate the immobiliser as theirs a code in the ECU & the key needs to have that code in order to start the car (ie Key Coding)

Don't know about VAGs but I know Vauxhalls will set the alarm off if you open the car using the key in the lock, whether it's coded or not. Need to use the remote central locking to disarm the alarm (or put the coded key into the ignition barrel and turn the ignition on)

[Flintstone]

jake15919 said:

I am genuinely stunned when I see peoples profiles on this site with photos of their pride and joy number plate showing. You might as well send the thief an invite.

Even worse, people drive around in public with their number plates on prominent display!

Madness I tell 'ee.

[p4cks]

Flintstone said:

jake15919 said:

I am genuinely stunned when I see peoples profiles on this site with photos of their pride and joy number plate showing. You might as well send the thief an invite.

Even worse, people drive around in public with their number plates on prominent display!

Madness I tell 'ee.

100% This. I am 'genuinely stunned' when people block out their reg plates on photos posted on tinternet. If they thought about it for 1 minute they would understand why they are wasting their time. It's a fad which has snowballed and people do it because they have seen other people doing it. You can only get the address the car is registered to from the DVLA, and even then you need a damn good reason as to why you want it.