eBay: "showing 16000 miles not sure if it genuine or not "

eBay: "showing 16000 miles not sure if it genuine or not "

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Dave_ST220

10,299 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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bremb0 said:
He/she knows full well what the mileage on the car is, and they know that a car with a potential 16,000 miles on the clock would go for more than one with 116,000.
A point so simple yet lost on here it would seem.

TomJS

974 posts

197 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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mnkiboy said:
Ok the guy's being a bit cheeky claiming that the mileage may or may not be 16k, but there's nothing wrong with buying a scruffy but mechanically sound car, doing some repairs on it then selling on for a profit.
It's something i'd like to do myself if I had the time and space.
In this case it's known as fraud by false representation, and he can do some jail time.

NiceCupOfTea

25,298 posts

252 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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So has anybody asked him for the MOT number yet?

Surely a report to ebay for lieing?

nouze

853 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Funny how you guys get so worked up about it but yet nobody decided to report this to ebay? Why?

over_the_hill

3,190 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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nouze said:
Funny how you guys get so worked up about it but yet nobody decided to report this to ebay? Why?
Because e-bay are ste and will do naff all. Perhaps someone should post a question on the ad with a link to the earlier ad asking if this is the same car (obviously is) and why there is a 100k miles difference.

Dave_ST220

10,299 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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over_the_hill said:
Because e-bay are ste and will do naff all. Perhaps someone should post a question on the ad with a link to the earlier ad asking if this is the same car (obviously is) and why there is a 100k miles difference.
Actually eBay DO deal with reports wink I've had to report things in the past where people are ripping off our products. Dealt with quickly.


Jerwatt

22,250 posts

202 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I sent him a message, wonder what reply I'll get and if it will be published?

"Hi!

I was wondering would you accept a little over £425 for this car? I think it's about right to cover the car, Hayes repair manuel and body filler. I'm not sure how much the paint cost, so I have not included this in the price.

P.S. As you are unsure about the milage I can confirm the car has 116 000 miles, not 16 000. It should be quite easy to know this when you bought it a month ago, but I understand these things can be hard to remember, smile"

bremb0

264 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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nouze said:
Funny how you guys get so worked up about it but yet nobody decided to report this to ebay? Why?
I've reported it, I just haven't broadcast it.

Either way that will do nothing, at the very worst he'll get the advert taken down, wow big tickle, he'll just put it in the local paper.

Jerwatt said:
I sent him a message, wonder what reply I'll get and if it will be published?

"Hi!

I was wondering would you accept a little over £425 for this car? I think it's about right to cover the car, Hayes repair manuel and body filler. I'm not sure how much the paint cost, so I have not included this in the price.

P.S. As you are unsure about the milage I can confirm the car has 116 000 miles, not 16 000. It should be quite easy to know this when you bought it a month ago, but I understand these things can be hard to remember, smile"
biggrin

I look forward to reading his reply to you.

nouze

853 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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over_the_hill said:
Because e-bay are ste and will do naff all.
Yes, that's the spirit, let's get angry about it but do nothing. thumbup

aruck

829 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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bremb0 said:
biggrin

I look forward to reading his reply to you.
ditto!

JohnnyRims

900 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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tinman0 said:
Give over, it's a crappy old Ka. Why get so indignant about it? It's not like you've just spotted a clocked 2 year old BMW 330d with a £10k price tag and smelt a rat.

It's a £400 12 year old Ford Ka.
Exactly it's a £400 Ka, so why try and deceive anyone?

tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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JohnnyRims said:
tinman0 said:
Give over, it's a crappy old Ka. Why get so indignant about it? It's not like you've just spotted a clocked 2 year old BMW 330d with a £10k price tag and smelt a rat.

It's a £400 12 year old Ford Ka.
Exactly it's a £400 Ka, so why try and deceive anyone?
Because people are stupid.

Hub

6,449 posts

199 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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The question is whether the seller meant it to be a profit-making project, as it clearly isn't going to make them a fortune, if anything!

JohnnyRims

900 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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tinman0 said:
JohnnyRims said:
tinman0 said:
Give over, it's a crappy old Ka. Why get so indignant about it? It's not like you've just spotted a clocked 2 year old BMW 330d with a £10k price tag and smelt a rat.

It's a £400 12 year old Ford Ka.
Exactly it's a £400 Ka, so why try and deceive anyone?
Because people are stupid.
I know why he's doing it, I'm wondering why you seem to be condoning it?

tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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JohnnyRims said:
I know why he's doing it, I'm wondering why you seem to be condoning it?
Not condoning it, I just think it's an over reaction for a £400 car.

bremb0

264 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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tinman0 said:
Not condoning it, I just think it's an over reaction for a £400 car.
At what price range is it not an over reaction in your opinion?

£400 quid might not be a lot to you, but it is to some people.

Some people can only afford bangers.

I guess we're all different but I go on things by principal, whether someone trys de-frauding for a small amount of money or a large amount of money, the intent is still the same.



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tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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bremb0 said:
tinman0 said:
Not condoning it, I just think it's an over reaction for a £400 car.
At what price range is it not an over reaction in your opinion?

£400 quid might not be a lot to you, but it is to some people.

Some people can only afford bangers.
I'd want any car up to about a grand to be reasonably accurately described. After that, it's a banger and it's description is next to worthless. What is important at that age is it's overall condition rather than how the seller describes it.

You are right though, the seller is not telling everyone the truth, but he's probably used sufficient terms to be this side of the law. He's read the mileometer, and he's admitted it might not be genuine.

Caveat emptor.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

199 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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tinman0 said:
bremb0 said:
tinman0 said:
Not condoning it, I just think it's an over reaction for a £400 car.
At what price range is it not an over reaction in your opinion?

£400 quid might not be a lot to you, but it is to some people.

Some people can only afford bangers.
I'd want any car up to about a grand to be reasonably accurately described. After that, it's a banger and it's description is next to worthless. What is important at that age is it's overall condition rather than how the seller describes it.

You are right though, the seller is not telling everyone the truth, but he's probably used sufficient terms to be this side of the law. He's read the mileometer, and he's admitted it might not be genuine.

Caveat emptor.
I think the documentary evidence that he bought it at 116k and is selling at 16k may blow your theory out of the water.

tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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CampDavid said:
I think the documentary evidence that he bought it at 116k and is selling at 16k may blow your theory out of the water.
Course he knows he's not telling the truth.

But read what he wrote: "showing 16,000 not sure if it genuine or not".

He hasn't told you the mileage, he has merely told you what it is showing on the clock.

Thudd

Original Poster:

3,100 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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It is a 5digit odometer.
He hasn't clocked the car, he's trying to "play down" the mileage.
I am wondering if it's a fairly young guy who's a bit naive about what's OK, and what's not.

If he'd marketed it honestly, he'd stand more chance of selling it. It reeks of dodgy, now.