eBay: "showing 16000 miles not sure if it genuine or not "

[bremb0]

tinman0 said:

I'd want any car up to about a grand to be reasonably accurately described. After that, it's a banger and it's description is next to worthless. What is important at that age is it's overall condition rather than how the seller describes it.

You are right though, the seller is not telling everyone the truth, but he's probably used sufficient terms to be this side of the law. He's read the mileometer, and he's admitted it might not be genuine.

Caveat emptor.

I'll stick by my opinion that the seller is a chancer, he's bought a car with the intention to try and make a profit, and thinks he's "smart" by listing that he doesn't know if the mileage may or may not be genuine.

See it would be different if he came across the car not knowing, but he bought it knowing full well what the mileage was.

I'd agree that bangers are to be sold as seen and bought on condition rather than description, infact only an idiot would buy a car on an internet description without seeing the vehicle in question before hand.

I just don't think regardless of how people spin it, that it's right to purposley try and mis-lead someone.

What he is doing is lying, he knows 100% what mileage the car has, and he is just as bad as someone who would clock a more expensive car and then attempt to sell it in my opinion.

The only difference between this particular ebay seller and other scammers is the ebay one is clearly clueless, with the trail he's left behind.

I mean think about it, even though he's put what he thinks is his "get out clause" to plead ignorance, he's left a trail showing that he bought the car knowingly with an advertised 116,000 miles.

Although he'll probably claim he's dyslexic, and will get a no win no fee solicitor to fight his case and be awarded £1000000000 for discrimination

Edited by bremb0 on Tuesday 22 March 14:29

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tinman0 said:

Course he knows he's not telling the truth.

But read what he wrote: "showing 16,000 not sure if it genuine or not".

He hasn't told you the mileage, he has merely told you what it is showing on the clock.

Thudd said:

It is a 5digit odometer.
He hasn't clocked the car, he's trying to "play down" the mileage.
I am wondering if it's a fairly young guy who's a bit naive about what's OK, and what's not.

If he'd marketed it honestly, he'd stand more chance of selling it. It reeks of dodgy, now.

The seller is as bad as the people who would set up auctions for empty boxes for say playstation 3s, they would word the auction in such a way that they'd have a get out clause in that they didn't say the ps3 was in the box, and they didn't outright say they were bidding on an actual console, but they would lead the potential buyer into thinking they were bidding on a ps3 console.

Unfortunately anyone who buys the car in the belief that it has a genuine 16,000 miles will not be smart enough to look through his buying history and see that he bought the car knowing it had 116,000.

p.s we know he hasn't clocked the car, that's why I called him a chancer, he's not a "pro scammer", he's just trying it on.

[Davi]

bremb0 said:

p.s we know he hasn't clocked the car, that's why I called him a chancer, he's not a "pro scammer", he's just trying it on.

He's just plain and simple dishonest, something that appears to be fairly acceptable nowdays.

[Dave_ST220]

Davi said:

He's just plain and simple dishonest, something that appears to be fairly acceptable nowdays.

It doesn't matter-it's only a few hundred £££££

[Jasandjules]

georgejoshington said:

He's saying he's not sure if the mileage is genuine in order to absolve himself from any punishment if/when someone realises it isn't.

Only a defence if honest and genuine belief. Negligent or indeed dishonest misrepresentations can still succeed.

[bremb0]

Davi said:

He's just plain and simple dishonest, something that appears to be fairly acceptable nowdays.

I share your viewpoint, so no need to convince me.

I was just saying that he's a chancer as opposed to being a hardened car criminal.

It is funny how things can be deemed acceptable if it's not a huge amount of money.

I can go and rob an old lady tonight, it's only for £50...

[Davi]

bremb0 said:

I share your viewpoint, so no need to convince me.

I was just saying that he's a chancer as opposed to being a hardened car criminal.

It is funny how things can be deemed acceptable if it's not a huge amount of money.

I can go and rob an old lady tonight, it's only for £50...

I've been saving up for a pair of tyres for my car the last few months, if I'd known small sums were okay I'd have just gone and nicked them!

[tinman0]

Thudd said:

It is a 5digit odometer.
He hasn't clocked the car, he's trying to "play down" the mileage.
I am wondering if it's a fairly young guy who's a bit naive about what's OK, and what's not.

If he'd marketed it honestly, he'd stand more chance of selling it. It reeks of dodgy, now.

Exactly!

[Jerwatt]

His reply to me (if you can understand it):

"hi sorry the car is worth alot more than that and just to confirm the body filler and haynes manual were for my uncle off my account so yea im not sure what the paint cost iver but many thanks for having the time to email me about the car PS i dont blame youfor wanting a cheap car so you can seel it on and make money just wish i could do the same thing and find some cheap cars lol

- ltable879"

I don't think he got the point of my email!

[tinman0]

doogz said:

He's changed the ad. I think my cat has a better grasp of the English language than this muppet though.

And he called you all "clever". Which is nice.

[N Dentressangle]

Muppet's ad now says said:

THE SPEEDO IS SHOWING 16000 MILES WHICH WILL BE 116.000 THANK YOU TO MANY EMAILS BY CLEVER EBAYERS NOT READING THE ADVERT PROPERLY (sic)

That'll learn you all to read the advert properly next time, see?

[edo]

I sent him the other ebay link he bought the car from earlier (nothing more). He sent the below. If anyone could translate, that would be great.

hi sorry i dont see your point and you must be really board to be doing stuff like this cose evan my 3 year old boy would come up with a better one than that i cant believe what you think you would gain from doing this lmao before you think you have offended me you havent you actually made me laugh out loud so thank you anyway for your time and effort more pics of a nice car would be great

[bremb0]

Well at least the advert has been changed which is good.

I bet he's gutted that he's been caught out though....

[Jerwatt]

edo said:

I sent him the other ebay link he bought the car from earlier (nothing more). He sent the below. If anyone could translate, that would be great.

hi sorry i dont see your point and you must be really board to be doing stuff like this cose evan my 3 year old boy would come up with a better one than that i cant believe what you think you would gain from doing this lmao before you think you have offended me you havent you actually made me laugh out loud so thank you anyway for your time and effort more pics of a nice car would be great

Hi, sorry, I don't see your point and you must be really bored to be doing stuff like this. Even my 3 year old son would come up with a better one than that. I can't understand what you think you would gain from doing this. Laughing my ass off. If you think you have offended me then ha, you haven't! You actually made me laugh out loud, so thank you for your time and effort. More pics of a nice car would be great.

Approximately. I'm not sure why he thought it would offend you, you'd have to ask him. I can translate again after,

[edo]

I may have replied. I got another.


WHY DONT YOU TRY READING THE ADVERT PROPERLY BEFORE TRYING TO STATE THE OVEOUS BECOUSE I STATED IT SHOWS 16K ON THE CLOCK AND DIDENT SAY IT WAS GENUINE DI I SO WHATS IS MISLEADING ABOUT THAT AND YOU SAYING IM BOPARD I DONT GO SENDING PICTURES OF CARS TO PEOPLE SO I CANT GET TO BOARD CAN I THE CAR IS ALOT BETTER THAN WHEN I BROUGHT IT AS YOU CAN SEE SO APRT FROM THE MISUNDERSTANDING ON TRHE MILAGE I HAVE TOLD THE TRUST SO THANKYOU FOR YOUR TIME MANY THANKS

Oh, and I may have asked him to introduce himself. Stand back.

[Jerwatt]

That's even worse than the last one! I guess his English deteriorates with increased anger! Not much wonder these people normally only respond with "f*** off" when you complain about something!