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[Zippee]

Petrolhead_Rich said:

kambites said:

I don't really see the problem? It doesn't affect the way the car drivers and the owner presumably doesn't care what the wheels look like.

I don't think I've ever curbed a wheel, but if I did I certainly wouldn't bother getting it "fixed" just to make the wheels look pretty again. Cars are for driving.

Have you thought how the force of the wheel hitting the kerb and trying to push the entire car sideways via the wheel affects other parts including, but not limited to:

Wheel Bolts
Wheel Hub
Wheel Bearing
Bottom Ball Joint
Wishbone
Wishbone bolts
Rubber Bushes
Chassis Rail
Damper
Tyre
Chassis Rail

Just a thought for you, but I wouldn't want to replace any of those on a Lamborghini, or drive with any of those weakened!

But if your happy then feel free to continue to smash your wheels and tyres into kerbs, just keep away from me when those parts fail and you land on your roof....

WTF?? They look more like kerbing scrapes from parking. Not quite sure how that would have any effect upon your little list.
My TVR has 2 kerbed wheels, one form just catching a high kerb parking outside a friends house, the other from dropping into a deeper than thought pothole at about 2mph. I would get them sorted but TBH would likely do the same again as soon as they've been done. Likewise my paintwork has several large chips in the front end from various stones etc along with a couple of other dings - unfortunately it's one of the perils of actually using your car, the more you drive it the more likely you are to gather knocks etc. Again I have plans for a front end respray at some point but sods law says as soon as I do I'll get chipped again. On the other hand mechanically it's meticulously maintained, along with chassis and other essential components, IMHO it's likely in better condition than many unmarked garage queens.

[EDLT]

Not much point in refurbing them if they are just going to curb kerb the wheels again. It'll get done when its sold.

[The Wookie]

And of course I'm sure everyone that's slating here has driven an extremely wide, low car with poor all round visibility, huge wheels and low profile tyres through narrow width restrictors and/or London traffic on a regular basis...

And honestly, walking round someone else's parked up car taking pictures of the wheel rims!?

[Petrolhead_Rich]

BliarOut said:

You don't work in engineering, do you...

No, but the point is still perfectly valid that kerbing the wheels repeatedly is going to increase wear on the parts listed, so it's hardly something not to worry about!

If suspension parts were so strong they could withstand impacts like hitting/scraping against a kerb then they would also be able to withstand bumps and potholes and I wouldn't be on my third set of ball joints/rubber bushes!

oh and the main point I meant to make, but didn't was the damage to the TYRES, which easily end up like this:


which could potentially result in a big crash, as could a ball joint or wishbone bolt failing, and I stand by the parts list, and know of someone who ended up with their chassis leg slightly out of line following an impact while reversing into a kerb, although I will concede they bent their alloy aswell!

[rottie102]

Petrolhead_Rich said:

No, but the point is still perfectly valid that kerbing the wheels repeatedly is going to increase wear on the parts listed, so it's hardly something not to worry about!

If suspension parts were so strong they could withstand impacts like hitting/scraping against a kerb then they would also be able to withstand bumps and potholes and I wouldn't be on my third set of ball joints/rubber bushes!

oh and the main point I meant to make, but didn't was the damage to the TYRES, which easily end up like this:


which could potentially result in a big crash, as could a ball joint or wishbone bolt failing, and I stand by the parts list, and know of someone who ended up with their chassis leg slightly out of line following an impact while reversing into a kerb, although I will concede they bent their alloy aswell!

And you see any damaged tyres in the OP???

Seriously, Pistonheads - exaggeration matters...

As for the OP - walking around the car that doesn't belong to you at night and taking pictures of its scratched wheels to post it on the internet??? Really??
What would you say if the owner showed up??

Edited by rottie102 on Wednesday 23 March 14:23

[gizlaroc]

Pistonsheads - Where argumentative, opinionated c**ts pretend they're into cars!!!

Seriously, even a thread on someones kerbed wheels turns into a 'my cocks bigger than your cock!' thread.

Classic!

[steelej]

I'm with the OP on this, I hate to see cars like that with mangled wheels, it's not difficult to park and not hit them, I use my 430, did 13k miles in it last year, didn't hit my wheels off anything.

John.

[gizlaroc]

Depends where you live and how big your space is, my space has kerbing on either side and there is only 2" to spare, I am fine getting in and out but the guy in the space next to me who is on the end really struggles as he has to turn sooner to swing out. Terrible space that is going to get his wheels at some point, no getting way with it.

[Pork]

steelej said:

I'm with the OP on this, I hate to see cars like that with mangled wheels, it's not difficult to park and not hit them, I use my 430, did 13k miles in it last year, didn't hit my wheels off anything.

John.

I'd agree with that - while driving, its pretty difficult to kerb a wheel.

On the three occasions I remember kerbing my wheels, they were all at slow speeds in tight spots.
1) driving out of the Canary Wharf car park, which for some unknown reason had raised concrete either side of the exit, I caught a wheel. Felt sick as the car was only a month old.
2) reversed my car to park in the shade when I was in West Hampsted. Kerb there are HIGH and jagged and I well and truly knackered the previously spotless rim
3) parking in a tight pub car park - for some reason, they had raised kerstones between the grass and the tarmac.

One thing is for sure, you never do it on purpose and you feel like a right lemon having done so. It easy done though but easily sorted.

[BliarOut]

Petrolhead_Rich said:

BliarOut said:

You don't work in engineering, do you...

No, but the point is still perfectly valid that kerbing the wheels repeatedly is going to increase wear on the parts listed, so it's hardly something not to worry about!

If suspension parts were so strong they could withstand impacts like hitting/scraping against a kerb then they would also be able to withstand bumps and potholes and I wouldn't be on my third set of ball joints/rubber bushes!

oh and the main point I meant to make, but didn't was the damage to the TYRES, which easily end up like this:


which could potentially result in a big crash, as could a ball joint or wishbone bolt failing, and I stand by the parts list, and know of someone who ended up with their chassis leg slightly out of line following an impact while reversing into a kerb, although I will concede they bent their alloy aswell!

So not so much kerbing it while parking then, more like 'crashing into the kerb'. In those pics the softer alloy has been worn away when the wheel gently came into contact with kerb. In that particular pic the only damage is cosmetic.

You need to learn to differentiate between what *can* theoretically happen in a similar but worse situation and what's likely. In this case, the only damage is to the owners wallet.

[Fossilface]

"cough" woman driver "cough"

[al1991]

Looks like an interesting colour, don't see many dark blue Gs about.

As for the wheels, well, shocking is the word I would use.

If you can afford a Lambo, you can afford a wheel refurb and learn not to do it again.

[Flintstone]

The Wookie said:

And honestly, walking round someone else's parked up car taking pictures of the wheel rims!?

Yeah, I know. There it was in a direct line between the door and my car, camera in my bag. I must have wasted ooooooooooh........ all of thirty seconds on it. Just imagine the useful things I could have done with that time. I'll carry the stigma to my grave.

Edited by Flintstone on Wednesday 23 March 16:33

[The Wookie]

Flintstone said:

The Wookie said:

And honestly, walking round someone else's parked up car taking pictures of the wheel rims!?

Yeah, I know. There it was in a direct line between the door and my car, camera in my bag. I must have wasted ooooooooooh........ all of thirty seconds on it. Just imagine the useful things I could have done with that time. I'll carry the stigma to my grave.

Edited by Flintstone on Wednesday 23 March 16:33

Actually it wasn't so much the issue of how much time it took you, it was more about why would you actually care enough to do it in the first place?

Fair enough though it's your time and your life

[gareth.e]

Petrolhead_Rich said:

Have you thought how the force of the wheel hitting the kerb and trying to push the entire car sideways via the wheel affects other parts including, but not limited to:

Wheel Bolts
Wheel Hub
Wheel Bearing
Bottom Ball Joint
Wishbone
Wishbone bolts
Rubber Bushes
Chassis Rail
Damper
Tyre
Chassis Rail

Just a thought for you, but I wouldn't want to replace any of those on a Lamborghini, or drive with any of those weakened!

But if your happy then feel free to continue to smash your wheels and tyres into kerbs, just keep away from me when those parts fail and you land on your roof....

at 30mph horizontally yes, not 1mph vertically.

[Silver Smudger]

Petrolhead_Rich said:

I like the way that one is hit dead-on to the safety warning about tyre damage...