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doogz said:
You said they were made from brittle plastics. So presumably they were broken, otherwise you'd have no idea if the material was brittle or not.
Don't use words you don't understand.
Perhaps brittle feeling would have been a better turn of phrase, therefore I bow to your superior knowledge of the english language. Clearly though, through your unprompted mention of door cards in your response, you must be perfectly aware of their cheap and nasty quality, being an owner and all that. No need for you to be a cock about it though, is there?Don't use words you don't understand.
300bhp/ton said:
What I struggle with is the rational that the 207 GTI could ever be the answer. Not saying it's bad, but for the same money you can buy:
-newer
-faster
-more fun
-more practical
-better looking
-better residuals
-more reliable
-better image
And quite often many or most of the above combined. The 207 might not actually be a bad car, but unless you are some sort of Peugeot nut there is always a better car alternative no matter your criteria.
Give me some examples then!? -newer
-faster
-more fun
-more practical
-better looking
-better residuals
-more reliable
-better image
And quite often many or most of the above combined. The 207 might not actually be a bad car, but unless you are some sort of Peugeot nut there is always a better car alternative no matter your criteria.
Edited by 300bhp/ton on Wednesday 6th April 11:29
-newer
-faster
-more fun
I've just sold one (needed the cash to buy a house)
For £6k they are one hell of car. You get all the toys, bucket seats, a cracking engine 175BHP / 195lbs/ft, dealers that are no worse than any other, high 30's mpg, cheap maintenance, good quality interior (no rattles or cheap plastics in mine which I owned from 22k to 39k miles)
Plus they aren't too shouty / chavvy and don't need to be ragged to be driven hard.
For £6k they are one hell of car. You get all the toys, bucket seats, a cracking engine 175BHP / 195lbs/ft, dealers that are no worse than any other, high 30's mpg, cheap maintenance, good quality interior (no rattles or cheap plastics in mine which I owned from 22k to 39k miles)
Plus they aren't too shouty / chavvy and don't need to be ragged to be driven hard.
doogz said:
300bhp/ton said:
What I struggle with is the rational that the 207 GTI could ever be the answer. Not saying it's bad, but for the same money you can buy:
-newer
-faster
-more fun
-more practical
-better looking
-better residuals
-more reliable
-better image
And quite often many or most of the above combined. The 207 might not actually be a bad car, but unless you are some sort of Peugeot but there is always a better car alternative no matter your criteria.
Go on then, give us some comedy suggestions. What can he get that's newer and faster, for the same money?-newer
-faster
-more fun
-more practical
-better looking
-better residuals
-more reliable
-better image
And quite often many or most of the above combined. The 207 might not actually be a bad car, but unless you are some sort of Peugeot but there is always a better car alternative no matter your criteria.
300bhp/ton said:
You know full well what my post says. If not read it again.
My problem with you saying that you could get something newer OR faster OR better build OR this OR that... is exactly that, the 207 GTI offers a mix of everything that not much else could compare to.Everyone on forums makes you think you need the best of x. This in turn means you comprimise on y.
I had a TT and it was everythin I needed in a car but I wanted more of a drivers car. I got one. I now wish I hadn't as the TT was one hell of an all rounder.
So just because the 207 isn't the rawest of hot hatches and maybe not the best drivers car doesn't mean it's not rational to buy one!!
Edited by SteveS Cup on Wednesday 6th April 13:19
doogz said:
300bhp/ton said:
doogz said:
300bhp/ton said:
What I struggle with is the rational that the 207 GTI could ever be the answer. Not saying it's bad, but for the same money you can buy:
-newer
-faster
-more fun
-more practical
-better looking
-better residuals
-more reliable
-better image
And quite often many or most of the above combined. The 207 might not actually be a bad car, but unless you are some sort of Peugeot but there is always a better car alternative no matter your criteria.
Go on then, give us some comedy suggestions. What can he get that's newer and faster, for the same money?-newer
-faster
-more fun
-more practical
-better looking
-better residuals
-more reliable
-better image
And quite often many or most of the above combined. The 207 might not actually be a bad car, but unless you are some sort of Peugeot but there is always a better car alternative no matter your criteria.
And i only asked you to pick one car, that would fulfil 2 of those criteria, and you can't?
DS3R said:
Note we are talking about SIX GRAND here 300, not 10- 12, which is what I'd expect a comparable age/ mileage Cooper S to cost. I wouldn't spend 10k on a 207.
No probs. But looking at the PH classifieds under Pug 207 searching GTI for a max of 6500 only shows up 2 cars. Both 2007. So let's face it, £6k is a stretch for these, if you wanted newer and slower there are options. Which is a valid combo from my previous reply.
Also let's face it. A 2007 model is out of warranty. So I think it's fair to argue that running a 2002-2005 car would not represent any more of a risk in terms of reliabilty or durability.
This is a cat D, so not to everyone's taste, although often shunned due to lack of knowledge. But I think it's more car for your money. There are other non Cat D examples at similar money to most of the 207 GTI's if you have scope above £6k
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2666675.htm
For a lot less money and a similar age, certainly no more of anrisky purchase than a 207:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2348821.htm
Bit of haggling and a car 10x better than the Pug:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2693832.htm
Here's one for you and doogz, as in newer. I really like these, Evo gave them a good write up too:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2603325.htm
Same sort of age as the Pug:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2176404.htm
Couple of other similar priced and aged alternatives:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2131136.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2606156.htm
Sure there are other options out there too
doogz said:
LOL. So you can go faster for £6k.
If you don't mind spending £7k, on something that's been written off.
Very good.
Doogz, sometimes I really like you. Other times you can be a real PITA. I knownthat you know what a Cat D, so why dress it up as you did?If you don't mind spending £7k, on something that's been written off.
Very good.
I don't know the car, but it could be something as simple as stolen recovered and written off by the insurers.
And as said, £6k 207 GTI's seem thin on the ground. Most seem to be £7.5-8.5k, which is firmly in MPS price range.
Oh and did you miss the Colt? I suspect you didn't, just a shame you couldn't find it possible for a postive comment.
Maybe next time
:thumbsup:
So, you're alternatives to a torquey turbo 07 plate hot hatch is...
A written off 3 MPS - Nothing against the car but you try getting paid out the cost of the car if you have a prang!
a 2.5 V6 MG 4 door saloon!! 3 door hatch, 4 door saloon!??!!?
CTR - Good car but it's a different kettle of fish imo.
A smart 44??? FPMSL.
182 - Anyone who spends over £3500 on a Clio 1*2 is mental imo. They great but not worth that money.
197 - Same story as the CTR, but these are shocking on fuel.
A written off 3 MPS - Nothing against the car but you try getting paid out the cost of the car if you have a prang!
a 2.5 V6 MG 4 door saloon!! 3 door hatch, 4 door saloon!??!!?
CTR - Good car but it's a different kettle of fish imo.
A smart 44??? FPMSL.
182 - Anyone who spends over £3500 on a Clio 1*2 is mental imo. They great but not worth that money.
197 - Same story as the CTR, but these are shocking on fuel.
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